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#126
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Power_Sweep_Vol said:
Man, it is really nuts how 90% of this board is ruled by emotion and bias towards their team. The committee is biased against UT, in love with the Big 10, can't wait to screw the SEC and the Vols. Have you ever considered developing opinions based on rational arguments and logic? What if instead of grand conspiracies, the simplest answer is the most accurate? That the case for those Big 10 teams, particularly Ohio St and Penn St, is more compelling than Tennessee's case? I guess this is what you get when people that can't see their own biases have 2 digit IQ's. I mean, the refs are out to get us every week also, right? LOL...
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Because the committee is run by a Big 10 person. The bias is overly overt. I think that's why. There's no reasonable or rationale explanation that Ohio St would only drop four places after what happened last week. Tennessee damn sure wouldn't have gotten the benefit of the doubt like that if we had lost to Vanderbilt. Even if we went into that game at 10-1. Not only would we have dropped further, we would have dropped completely out of the field while 9-3 Bama got in. This isn't directly an SEC issue. It's more a brand bias issues (and the fact the chair is led by the Big 10).
 
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#127
UT97Vol said:
Because the committee is run by a Big 10 person. The bias is overly overt. I think that's why. There's no reasonable or rationale explanation that Ohio St would only drop four places after what happened last week. Tennessee damn sure wouldn't have gotten the benefit of the doubt like that if we had lost to Vanderbilt. Even if we went into that game at 10-1. Not only would we have dropped further, we would have dropped completely out of the field while 9-3 Bama got in. This isn't directly an SEC issue. It's more a brand bias issues (and the fact the chair is led by the Big 10).
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They dropped to the spot where their resume and collective opinion of the relative strength of their team was less than the teams above them and better than the teams below them. Crazy how that works, eh?
 
#128
#128
Power_Sweep_Vol said:
They dropped to the spot where their resume and collective opinion of the relative strength of their team was less than the teams above them and better than the teams below them. Crazy how that works, eh?
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In spite of the reality that smacked everyone in the face just a few days earlier. Almost like it didn't happen.
 
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#130
In this type of playoff we'll have to play at least 1-2 good teams before it's all said and done to make a tournament run.

And that's with a favorable first round match up. So in the end, if this team is a championship team, we'll beat who we face.
 
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#131
UT97Vol said:
In spite of the reality that smacked everyone in the face just a few days earlier. Almost like it didn't happen.
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No, they looked at that reality, and then re-ranked all the teams after a days long in depth discussion about the relative strength of each team. Novel concept, eh? I mean when you're saying that we got "screwed" by being behind Ohio St, meaning no reasonable person could have us below them, well, you're just not very smart. The comparison of us vs them is not really close in reality, and that is reflected in the ranking from the committee. Gave 2 teams their only losses on the yr, and lost a game at the #1 team in the country by a point. Also were able to win a game vs a top 10 team on the road, something we can't seem to do. Almost like they're better, or something.
 
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Power_Sweep_Vol said:
No, they looked at that reality, and then re-ranked all the teams after a days long in depth discussion about the relative strength of each team. Novel concept, eh? I mean when you're saying that we got "screwed" by being behind Ohio St, meaning no reasonable person could have us below them, well, you're just not very smart. The comparison of us vs them is not really close in reality, and that is reflected in the ranking from the committee. Gave 2 teams their only losses on the yr, and lost a game at the #1 team in the country by a point. Also were able to win a game vs a top 10 team on the road, something we can't seem to do. Almost like they're better, or something.
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That's absolute BS. They didn't rerank all the teams. If they wanted to do that come Sunday fine. But they damn sure didn't do that last night. Ohio St took the one of the worst losses of anyone in the top 10 and dropped them the least afterwards. You question my intelligence but the fact that you can say the comparison between them vs us isn't close makes you look like a complete buffoon. The resumes are almost identical and one of their "good" wins is an absolute joke of a paper tiger. Hide and watch as Indiana is going to be completely exposed when they step on the field whoever it's against.
 
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UT97Vol said:
That's absolute BS. They didn't rerank all the teams. If they wanted to do that come Sunday fine. But they damn sure didn't do that last night. Ohio St took the one of the worst losses of anyone in the top 10 and dropped them the least afterwards. You question my intelligence but the fact that you can say the comparison between them vs us isn't close makes you look like a complete buffoon. The resumes are almost identical and one of their "good" wins is an absolute joke of a paper tiger. Hide and watch as Indiana is going to be completely exposed when they step on the field whoever it's against.
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Yes, it makes you look stupid, and of course that's what they do every week. What the heck you think they sit around and talk about for 2 days? The weather? Geopolitics?

Part of being a good team is being able to win on the road against good teams. They can, we can't. Their best 2 wins are clearly better than our 2 best wins. And no, wins against #11 Alabama at home and vs 7-5 Fla in overtime are not close to at #3 PennSt and a blowout vs #9 Indiana are not close in comparison.

And that people take it a step further and say it is an obvious screw job that OhSt is above us, well that is just some next level ignorance.
 
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Power_Sweep_Vol said:
Yes, it makes you look stupid, and of course that's what they do every week. What the heck you think they sit around and talk about for 2 days? The weather? Geopolitics?

Part of being a good team is being able to win on the road against good teams. They can, we can't. Their best 2 wins are clearly better than our 2 best wins. And no, wins against #11 Alabama at home and vs 7-5 Fla in overtime are not close to at #3 PennSt and a blowout vs #9 Indiana are not close in comparison.

And that people take it a step further and say it is an obvious screw job that OhSt is above us, well that is just some next level ignorance.
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Whatever you say Mr. Genius. Indiana is a flipping joke. They literally played no one worth a damn. All this will become obvious in a few weeks.
 
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#136
Gang there isn’t some conspiracy against us. We gave up control of our seeding and right to gripe by laying an egg against bacon bits and UGA. Facts.

Our schedule wound up being soft. OU, Bama, and NC State all underperforming hurts us too.

If a fan base has a gripe it’s Oregon. Potentially #1 seed and will have the toughest out in the quarterfinals. Let’s hope we earn a trip to Pasadena!

Beat the team in front of you. Move on.
 
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#138
Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
You guys are so weak. Afraid of even the least competition. I'm personally excited to see us play at Ohio State (a venue we've never played at). And I'm expecting us to win.
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We’d have to go on the road, where Heupel is exceedingly bad, to beat the most expensive roster in college football, and if we manage that, our reward is the number 1 seed in round 2. We are basically going to have to win 2 semifinal games and two championship games to win it all. This is a bad draw, and the draw is always pivotal in any playoff in any sport.

I’d be surprised if we aren’t big underdogs against OSU, and if you are half as confident as you claim to be, you should bet an enormous amount on Tennessee.
 
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OrangeBloodinTN said:
The committee gifted Notre Dame and Penn State the cakest cakewalks ever as it stands now. Let’s hope for chaos to mix this absurdity up.
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The bureaucrats got exactly the bracket they wanted from the beginning of this corrupt process:


* Home games for OSU, Notre Dame, Penn State, and either Georgia or Texas.

* Easy run to the final four for Penn State.

* Either Notre Dame or Alabama moving on - the "committee" wins either way - and an easy path to the final four for the winner.

* Potential Ohio State - Oregon rematch for the final four, or so they hope.


Very coincidental that the final four will very likely be among the group of Ohio State, Penn State, Notre Dame, Alabama, Georgia, and Texas - all TV rating powerhouses. Tennessee and Oregon could throw a bit of a monkey wrench into the plans, but the dream four would be OSU, PSU, ND, and Texas - three northern schools, two from the Big 10, and only one from the SEC (and being Texas not a real SEC school).

Anyone who tries to rationalize this process using SOS, SOR, head to head, or any other parameters is completely missing the point. Think it was with any consideration of "fairness" that they stuck with this "committee" of bureaucrats instead of going with some kind of objective algorithm to construct the bracket? I have some oceanfront property in Oklahoma to sell you.
 
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#141
Winners win. Competitors compete.

I'm sure the players aren't worried. In fact, I bet they are thrilled at the opportunity to play such a marquee opponent. Home or away. I am too.
 
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#142
DaddyChad said:
If they draw Bama it won’t be an easy path but yeah likely they get Arizona St then Boise.
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The problem, for me, is the fact that AZ St. or Boise State are in the bye conversation.

Rank teams in order and ignore conference titles.
 
#143
#143
Power_Sweep_Vol said:
Man, it is really nuts how 90% of this board is ruled by emotion and bias towards their team. The committee is biased against UT, in love with the Big 10, can't wait to screw the SEC and the Vols. Have you ever considered developing opinions based on rational arguments and logic? What if instead of grand conspiracies, the simplest answer is the most accurate? That the case for those Big 10 teams, particularly Ohio St and Penn St, is more compelling than Tennessee's case? I guess this is what you get when people that can't see their own biases have 2 digit IQ's. I mean, the refs are out to get us every week also, right? LOL...
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I'm not in the "everyone hates UT" camp, never have been. This isn't about "wow, they wanted UT out", it was always about this group of bureacrats maximizing the ratings and national interest in a playoff that has billions invested and at stake.

You don't find it ironic at all that the programs with the highest potential TV ratings are in the most advantageous positions in this farce? If you can look at that bracket and rationalize how perfectly it set up for the maximum commercial appeal, then you probably also still believe the "vaccine" is "safe and effective".
 
#144
#144
BigOrangeMojo said:
If we werent an undisciplined mess in Fayetteville, none of this wouldnt matter....
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That is a fact. Running into their punter. So stupid. Rule #1. If you can't hit the ball, don't hit the kicker. And after that 98 yard Kickoff return by Vandy; Who coaches ST?
 
#145
#145
VolPack22 said:
We will beat any Big Ten team we play. We are just a horrible matchup for any of them. Won’t matter that it is on the road. The thing that ticks me off though is the fact that the format of this thing is so idiotic we are the ones that get screwed out of a home game. We are the 7th best team in the country according to the committee but there will be 6 teams ranked behind us playing for a potential first round bye. Make that make sense.
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This is the problem, you nailed it. Fix the format.
 
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#146
Golfprovol said:
Jesus dude, find some joy. That is loser mentality and defeatist attitude. Not everything happens because "the fix is in" if the committee wanted to hose the SEC they would have put Miami in and left Bama out. To say everyone out there has a bias against UT is extremely egotistical, maybe to a point of unhealthy
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Said the Man who joined in 2022.
 
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#148
rjd970 said:
And add to that OSU is getting credit for a top 10 win with Indiana which is absurd.

And I’ve already listened to some media this morning and the lack of outrage for Bama getting in is puzzling. If I were the Miami AD I would be going full scorched earth toward the committee with anybody that would have me on their show.
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Why would anything from the lackeys in the national media be puzzling? These people aren't going to bite the hand that feeds them.
 
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#149
UTFranklinVol said:
So not only did Ohio State not fall below Tennessee but by some miracle of Christ, Georgia ROSE in the rankings after an 8 overtime win to an unranked team at home. I think this was on purpose to screw Tennessee out of any chance to host a game.

Maybe I'm wrong but here's the only possible way it happens now ..

Unless Georgia or Penn St lose by 30 or more points.

This bodes terribly for UT. Tennessee hasn't beat a top 10 team on the road since 2006, 19 seasons let alone a game as crazy huge as a playoff game at someone else's home field.

A real shame.
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If Michigan can beat Ohio State in Columbus, Tennessee can beat them in Columbus.
 
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#150
orange4ever said:
Forget the committee after the teams are selected. Blind draw for all byes and games. Either drop to an 8 team playoff or up to16 team playoff. No byes, everyone plays the same number of games to get to the championship game. All games played on neutral fields.
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This uses logic and fairness, taking control away from the powers that be. Any idea taking away that control is a non-starter.
 
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