The Great Labor Force Debate

#276
#276
TheDeeble said:
Being an unfavorable or crappy job doesn't equate it to being skilled.

Standing on a corner holding a cash for gold sign is not a skill. And yet I'm sure you will find many many people here that can, but are not willing to do the job. Because they don't need to.
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I actually haven't seen anyone do those jobs in a couple of years or more. And for all we know it could be the store owner who is actually holding the sign.
 
#278
#278
utvolpj said:
that's your worst line to date. Absurd

You seem to have a very hard time with understanding that saying a job is is unskilled labor is not insulting those doing it. I've done plenty of jobs I'd categorize as unskilled labor and wouldn't be embarrassed to admit it
is anyone truly worried about this? Probably only people clinging to conservative as part of their identity
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Restaurants are in high demand. Walmart is in high demand. As are grocery stores. If everyone in those jobs walked out tomorrow I bet you and others would be changing your mind real quick about them being unskilled jobs.

You and others have been using absurd arguments all day long. It's what you guys like you are good at.
 
#279
#279
utvolpj said:
Yes. For those and for the people running the courses
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Even after you get your insurance license you still have to renew it every two years and take CE courses through a third party in order to renew your license. It is a money making machine.
 
#280
#280
DonjoVol said:
Restaurants are in high demand. Walmart is in high demand. As are grocery stores. If everyone in those jobs walked out tomorrow I bet you and others would be changing your mind real quick about them being unskilled jobs.

You and others have been using absurd arguments all day long. It's what you guys like you are good at.
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You still can't differentiate between necessary/beneficial and skilled. None of those closing would change my mind as I've done those jobs before. Then I obtained other skills and moved on
 
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#281
#281
TheDeeble said:
Being an unfavorable or crappy job doesn't equate it to being skilled.

Standing on a corner holding a cash for gold sign is not a skill. And yet I'm sure you will find many many people here that can, but are not willing to do the job. Because they don't need to.
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Didn't you correct me on how CNAs were actually a skilled job? I think it was you. I could be mistaken.
 
#282
#282
DonjoVol said:
I actually haven't seen anyone do those jobs in a couple of years or more. And for all we know it could be the store owner who is actually holding the sign.
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Lol. Right.

Come on down to Memphis. Germantown Pkwy. There are people who's job is to stand on the sidewalk/corner and hold a sign to advertise for a business. Cash for gold. Tax service. Some restaurant not readily visible from the street. Ect.

So, is standing on the street holding a sign a skilled job?
 
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#283
TheDeeble said:
Lol. Right.

Come on down to Memphis. Germantown Pkwy. There are people who's job is to stand on the sidewalk/corner and hold a sign to advertise for a business. Cash for gold. Tax service. Some restaurant not readily visible from the street. Ect.

So, is standing on the street holding a sign a skilled job?
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It is. I would say it's pretty hard standing outside in freezing or 95 degree weather. Especially for long periods of time wearing those ridiculous suits.
 
#284
#284
utvolpj said:
You still can't differentiate between necessary/beneficial and skilled. None of those closing would change my mind as I've done those jobs before. Then I obtained other skills and moved on
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I see your still ignorant and stuck in your ways. No wonder you don't like Trump. He appeals to many of these unskilled workers you don't like.
 
#285
#285
DonjoVol said:
Restaurants are in high demand. Walmart is in high demand. As are grocery stores. If everyone in those jobs walked out tomorrow I bet you and others would be changing your mind real quick about them being unskilled jobs.

You and others have been using absurd arguments all day long. It's what you guys like you are good at.
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If everyone walked out of those lower-level jobs, that doesn't suddenly make that a skilled job. Also, just because a certain job is in high demand, that doesn't make that job inherently skilled.
 
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#286
Matt2496 said:
If everyone walked out of those lower-level jobs, that doesn't suddenly make that a skilled job. Also, just because a certain job is in high demand, that doesn't make that job inherently skilled.
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They wouldn't be able to replace them the next day either like these guys think

If an industry is in high demand then it would only make sense that the people working there are skilled. Plain and simple.
 
#288
#288
DonjoVol said:
And you didn't bother corrected that person that you can't just bring people off the street and train them in an hour to be a CNA. A VP in healthcare would know this. You really are pathetic.
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If you have a problem with what I posted, ask me about it. Don’t turn your misinterpretation of what I said into your next debate point with other posters.
 
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#291
MG1968 said:
If you have a problem with what I posted, ask me about it. Don’t turn your misinterpretation of what I said into your next debate point with other posters.
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I already did. Perhaps you should learn to read. And also maybe you should know that CNAs actually have to be certified. You can't just pull people off the street. You are quite ignorant.
 
#292
#292
DonjoVol said:
Every job is skilled. Are you really that ignorant to understand that statement?
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Every job is not skilled. Anyone that has worked more than a few months probably could recognize that. Every society depends on a certain supply of cheap unskilled laborers. Why do you think our government allowed so many Mexicans to come here illegally for the last few generations?
 
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#293
#293
lukeneyland said:
Every job is not skilled. Anyone that has worked more than a few months probably could recognize that. Every society depends on a certain supply of cheap unskilled laborers. Why do you think our government allowed so many Mexicans to come here illegally for the last few generations?
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Because many Americans are lazy for one. Two, they wanted cheap skilled labor. I've seen many Hispanics working as roofers. That's a skilled job.
 
#294
#294
DonjoVol said:
And you didn't bother corrected that person that you can't just bring people off the street and train them in an hour to be a CNA. A VP in healthcare would know this. You really are pathetic.
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You’re simply wrong. I literally have a list of 6 contracted agencies in Knox county alone where I can get a CNA in an hour
 
#295
#295
Rickyvol77 said:
You’re simply wrong. I literally have a list of 6 contracted agencies in Knox county alone where I can get a CNA in an hour
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That is not what was said. You cannot just bring people off the street and train them to be a CNA in an hour. You should know this Mr VP. The fact you did not correct the poster on that statement tells a lot about you.
 
#296
#296
Rasputin_Vol said:
Hey Ricky, if some Bloods or Crips moved next door to you, but assured you that there wasn't going to be any drug selling or drive-by shootings, would you still be comfortable at your residence? Would you still feel safe or would you now feel threatened? Would you feel compelled to act?
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So you are saying If a gang member moves next door to me, i should kick in his door and shoot his wife and kids. That’s your analogy?
 
#298
#298
DonjoVol said:
That is not what was said. You cannot just bring people off the street and train them to be a CNA in an hour. You should know this Mr VP. The fact you did not correct the poster on that statement tells a lot about you.
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It didn't say all requirements for a CNA. Could they be trained to do some of the responsibilities within an hour?
 
#300
#300
ClearwaterVol said:
I believe that it was a good thing.

Was the average worker any more or any less important in 1965 as compared to today? In 1965, CEOs earned about 21 times what the average employee earned. Today that number is 351 times. American businesses have been taking advantage of the workers who made their success possible for decades. It is about damn time the workers pushed back. The average CEO pay rose 1,322% since 1978 and the average worker realized an 18% pay increase over the same period.
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more wealth envy
 
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