The Oakland A's- MLB's ACTUAL AAA team

#426
#426
12-7 sounds like a really good record but let's look closely:

11-2 against 3 teams (Houston, LAA, Seattle) with a combined 18-34 record. 1-5 against 2 teams (Detroit and TB).
 
#428
#428
As well as Bob Melving managed the team last year, he's doing that badly so far this year. There is no passion or emotion from this team. They're just out there, expecting great things to happen instead of forcing it. I'm kinda getting pissed off about it.
 
#430
#430
005 said:
They're fine. May have overachieved some last year. It's early.
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They can't score runs unless they are playing the Astros, they can't manufacture base runners like last year and the starting pitching has been awful for a month, but yeah... they're fine. Brilliant observation.
 
#432
#432
There has been some regression. Reddick has been really bad. But, on the other hand, Donaldson has surprised. Crisp and Lowrie have mashed.

Anderson got hurt and Parker has REALLY struggled.
 
#433
#433
005 said:
They're uh. They're leading the league in runs scored.
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and 45 of their runs were in six games against the lowly Astros. Another 52 runs in six games against the weak pitching of the Angels. That's an average of 8.08 in those six games. The rest? 82 runs in 25 games. that's a low 3.28. To include 11 runs in the past 5 games.
 
#434
#434
Peaks and valleys. Scoring a lot of runs against bad teams that you should score a lot of runs against isn't a terrible thing. Them being closer to .500 than last year's record, especially if the ace of the staff is broken, isn't a very surprising result.

They have guys getting on base. Reddick's bat waking up and consistent Cespedes would be very nice.
 
#435
#435
Anderson was broken all of last year. Not having him out there now is like not having him last year. There's also no Brandon McCarthy to pick up the slack, or to play for. The only series they've won besides the four against the Astros and Angels is the Yankees last weekend. Things are not ok.
 
#436
#436
The possibility that they overachieved last year and will be a .500 ish team this year is in play, right? That wouldn't be shocking. I liked them more than that to start the year, though. Division would have been super tough to win with the Rangers but I would have bet over .500 for sure.
 
#437
#437
005 said:
The possibility that they overachieved last year and will be a .500 ish team this year is in play, right? That wouldn't be shocking. I liked them more than that to start the year, though. Division would have been super tough to win with the Rangers but I would have bet over .500 for sure.
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Possibly, but you've come a long way from your they're fine comment just an hour ago.

Donaldson has been the hitter he's supposed to be and his transition to 3B has been pretty good, but that's been a couple of years now. The SP was supposed to be that good last year, just not all at once. Now they all struggle. For me, it's too coincidental that everyone has struggled. I'm hoping getting Crisp back will help with chemistry and passion, but I'm just not sure.
 
#438
#438
I think they're fine? They aren't way ahead or way behind where I feel like they could end up.

I'm also not sure how much of the effort level can be tied to Bob Melvin's managerial merits, which was part of the reason for my 'they're fine' comment. It hasn't been catastrophic or anything.
 
#439
#439
005 said:
I think they're fine? They aren't way ahead or way behind where I feel like they could end up.

I'm also not sure how much of the effort level can be tied to Bob Melvin's managerial merits, which was part of the reason for my 'they're fine' comment. It hasn't been catastrophic or anything.
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A team that is supposed to compete for the AL West, but has shown they can only beat the Angels and Astros is sucking. Granted, that knocks out half the competition in your division, but think about this: In games not against the Astros or Angels, the A's have been outscored 128-82. This, again, from a team supposed to offer competition for the AL West crown.
 
#440
#440
You don't view it as catastrophic because the hot start against crappy teams is hiding all their problems. Since starting 12-4, The A's are now 18-19. That's 6-15 over the last 21 games. They are nowhere near where they were predicted to be.
 
#441
#441
I don't view it as catastrophic because teams have good and bad years and kicking the crap out of bad teams is a good thing. And I just don't know that the motivation to play hard or show urgency comes from Melvin. I haven't watched enough to know how they might 'look' when they play.

They were 5 games back last year at this point, too. They had a crazy finish to win the division. It's a lonnnnnng season.

"I wouldn't be too pissed off about it, because it's a long season," I guess I should have said.
 
#446
#446
5 in a row. Two of them over Texas.

Just hope Lowrie's ok. Jane Lee (beat writer) says it's a contusion.
 
#448
#448
The A's are 9-0 against Houston, 19-23 against the rest of MLB. Fortunately, we get Houston 10 more times this year, all in the second half of the season. FWIW, we are 3-3 against Texas so far.
 
#450
#450
We will improve that record over other teams over the year starting with the Giants. The A's play their best baseball in July.
 
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