The Official Tennessee Titans thread IV

The defense is on track, it will be on point in a year or two as some younger players gain experience.

The problem is the offense has regressed, offensive scheme doesn't fit players, qb is mediocre.

Bottom line we need new coaches, a corner and a qb and we are a playoff team capable of advancing. Until then this is our ceiling.
 
The defense is on track, it will be on point in a year or two as some younger players gain experience.

The problem is the offense has regressed, offensive scheme doesn't fit players, qb is mediocre.

Bottom line we need new coaches, a corner and a qb and we are a playoff team capable of advancing. Until then this is our ceiling.

The first two years of that QB means he deserves a chance to redeem himself next season. He's certainly not been put in the best of circumstances this year with the injuries and OC.
 
The defense is on track, it will be on point in a year or two as some younger players gain experience.

The problem is the offense has regressed, offensive scheme doesn't fit players, qb is mediocre.

Bottom line we need new coaches, a corner and a qb and we are a playoff team capable of advancing. Until then this is our ceiling.

I wouldn't be surprised if our QB issue is taken care of once we have an actual offensive coaching staff with people who generally understand throwing the football.
 
Forgot to add this:

We still want San Francisco to beat Jacksonville if possible today. That pretty much should knock the Jags out of any 1-2 seed contention (they surprisingly good on the tiebreakers to win those). Locked in as a 3-4 seed, they’d probably rest some of their starters.
 
And we can lose and still get in if the Chargers and Bills lose.

There's a decent chance we may have to play the Jags 2 weeks in a row.

We'll win next week, get destroyed in the Wild Card round, give Mularkey a 5 year extension, and suck for all 5 years.

That'd be classic Titans right there.
 
Cyprien has been a liability in pass coverage since his days in Jacksonville and has been here too. We shouldn't have signed him to a big deal. Also Ryan has been trash as well.

Cyprien is stronger in run support. Not a coverage guy. They cured none of their problems signing him.
 
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Win and we're in or we'd have to have the Bills and Chargers both lose. Bills will play Miami and the Chargers have the Raiders.
 
I believe so. I saw on the twitterverse that Oakland is eliminated

The playoff picture on NFL.com still has Oakland as being alive for a playoff spot, and it’s been updated to include today’s eliminations and division clinchers (I’m guessing everyone on twitter must have been talking about Oakland failing to clench the West with KC’s win?).

So for security’s sake, we need that one to lose too.


Edit: Cleared up below.
 
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Win and we're in or we'd have to have the Bills and Chargers both lose. Bills will play Miami and the Chargers have the Raiders.

Still one more there: Eagles need to beat the Raiders tomorrow night to fully knock them out of contention.

Edit: Cleared up below.
 
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So here’s pretty much what Titans need (or at least should hope for) the rest of this week:

Tomorrow

(1) Thankfully Jacksonville lost. Hopefully, there’s not a slip up tomorrow and Pittsburgh beats Houston. It’s not necessary, but it removes Jacksonville from having any chance of getting a #2 seed next weekend. The Jags will be more likely to rest some starters Sunday if the game’s outcome won’t effect their playoff seeding (a Steelers win tomorrow locks JAX in as a 3 seed)

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As far as making the playoffs next week goes:

(A) If the Titans beat Jacksonville, then they’re in as the 6 seed (playing JAX). If TEN wins AND BAL loses to CIN, the Titans would be the 5 seed by tiebreaker (TEN would play KC).

(B) If TEN loses next week, then if (1) BUF loses to MIA and (2) LA Chargers lose to OAK, then TEN would be in the playoffs as the 6 seed (against JAX)
 
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It's so frustrating that we're in this spot, we were sitting at 8-4 just three weeks ago... And we've had a chance to win all 3 of our recent losses. I really hope we can just come out and beat Jacksonville without having to rely on other teams.
 
So here’s pretty much what Titans need (or at least should hope for) the rest of this week:

Tomorrow

(1) The Eagles have to beat the Raiders to remove them from playoff contention. OAK has the tiebreaker against TEN and would get the last playoff spot if both finish 8-8.

(2) Thankfully Jacksonville lost. Hopefully, there’s not a slip up tomorrow and Pittsburgh beats Houston. It’s not necessary, but it removes Jacksonville from having any chance of getting a #2 seed next weekend. The Jags will be more likely to rest some starters Sun if the game’s outcome won’t effect their playoff seeding (a Steelers win tomorrow locks JAX in as a 3 seed)

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As far as making the playoffs next week goes:

(A) If the Titans beat Jacksonville, then they’re in as the 6 seed (playing JAX). If TEN wins AND BAL loses to CIN, the Titans would be the 5 seed by tiebreaker (TEN would play KC).

(B) If TEN loses next week, and (1) if OAK lost to PHI on Christmas Day (or this is all moot), then if (2) BUF loses to MIA and (3) LA Chargers lose to OAK, then TEN would be in the playoffs as the 6 seed (against JAX)

As a bunch of people have said, the Raiders are mathematically eliminated. At best they’d be part of a 4-way tie, so the win over the Titans wouldn’t really mean anything.
 
It’s because in a 3+ team tiebreaker, they narrow it down to the top teams from each division first, and the Chargers will be ahead of the Raiders no matter what. So Oakland won’t even get a chance to be compared to the Titans and Bills.
 
It’s because in a 3+ team tiebreaker, they narrow it down to the top teams from each division first, and the Chargers will be ahead of the Raiders no matter what. So Oakland won’t even get a chance to be compared to the Titans and Bills.

Not exactly. As you noted, the first step of the 3-way tiebreaker is to narrow it down to the highest ranked non-division teams in each division (so b/c of the 3-way tie, it reverts back to the division tiebreaker scenarios for say Oakland vs Chargers rather than just the wild card scenarios).

NFL Tie-Breaking Procedures


The second divisional tiebreaker (after head to head matchups) is a comparison of records in divisional play. At the moment, Oakland (6-8) is 2-3 in the AFC West. The Chargers (8-7) are also 2-3 in AFC West play. If Oakland were to win the next two games, that would mean that while both teams would be 8-8 with a split series, and Oakland would have the better divisional record of 3-3 vs 2-4. The Raiders would then be the team from the AFC West to move on from the 3-way tiebreaker.


That said, if I’m understanding correctly, the next tiebreaker would be the conference records, and even worst case in a 3-way tie with the Bills and Raiders, TEN’s now 7-5 conference record would top the 6-6 ones of BUF and OAK.

So yeah, it appears like the results of the Philadelphia-Oakland outcome isn’t going to be of any necessity to the Titans playoff race.
 
Not exactly. As you noted, the first step of the 3-way tiebreaker is to narrow it down to the highest ranked non-division teams in each division (so b/c of the 3-way tie, it reverts back to the division tiebreaker scenarios for say Oakland vs Chargers rather than just the wild card scenarios).

NFL Tie-Breaking Procedures


The second divisional tiebreaker (after head to head matchups) is a comparison of records in divisional play. At the moment, Oakland (6-8) is 2-3 in the AFC West. The Chargers (8-7) are also 2-3 in AFC West play. If Oakland were to win the next two games, that would mean that while both teams would be 8-8 with a split series, and Oakland would have the better divisional record of 3-3 vs 2-4. The Raiders would then be the team from the AFC West to move on from the 3-way tiebreaker.


That said, if I’m understanding correctly, the next tiebreaker would be the conference records, and even worst case in a 3-way tie with the Bills and Raiders, TEN’s now 7-5 conference record would top the 6-6 ones of BUF and OAK.

So yeah, it appears like the results of the Philadelphia-Oakland outcome isn’t going to be of any necessity to the Titans playoff race.

Yeah, that’s what I meant.

Lol jk I stand corrected, I knew they were done but only took a quick look through the process
 

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