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#102
Scroll down on the VN home page to Vol news section to read the article on Go Vols. T-FP articles are posted there daily. :yes:
 
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#103
#103
I still think the odds are with Worley but would not be completely surprised if Peterman catches him. I would be very surprised if either Fr were named the starter barring injuries. They just do not have the physical and mental development yet. Unless something has changed, Worley is still stepping out with the #1 O first.

If Jones intended at this point to start either Fr then he would not pull their non-contact jersey risking injury. Yes, he's giving them opportunities to prove themselves on those occasions... but that means they have ALOT to prove to get in the lineup.

It is fun to argue over this though none of us really "know" much of anything. I do think this is the first time I can remember in all my time of watching UT that they had 4 SEC capable QB's on the roster at the same time. For a position that many want to point to as a weakness.... that doesn't sound too bad to me.
 
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k-town_king said:
I think its more that Worley is mediocre and the others are still learning and developing.
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Why do you believe Worley is mediocre without more direct evidence?

Worley played well when thrown into the fire two years ago. That O had lost Hunter so D Rogers was really the only great target available. Worley's play was good for a Fr and NOT the reason UT lost. In fact, his play in his two starts was better than Bray's in the last two games vs Vandy and UK.
 
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orangeluvr said:
The controversy is in the the heads of CBJ and coach Jake. :yes:
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I don't think they have one. I think they have evaluation tools and are looking at all four guys though I would almost bet primarily at Peterman and Worley. It seems that Worley has been able to hold on to #1 so far.
 
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sjt18 said:
Why do you believe Worley is mediocre without more direct evidence?

Worley played well when thrown into the fire two years ago. That O had lost Hunter so D Rogers was really the only great target available. Worley's play was good for a Fr and NOT the reason UT lost. In fact, his play in his two starts was better than Bray's in the last two games vs Vandy and UK.
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Actually he played like dog ****
 
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DD4ME said:
I trust Butch. With that said he's kept the door open a long damn time on naming a starter.
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He's kept the competition going. That does not mean that someone is not leading. All signs point toward Worley right now. But Jones is keeping the heat on so that none of them let up. It is a very good strategy that should result in all of them getting better. Judging from the comments that JW and Peterman have made... they are not allowing them to think about the depth chart. They are just pushing them to compete on every rep.

It's clear to me and I may be in a minority that Worley either can't or won't take the job.
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Here's evidence to the contrary. He has stepped out first with the ones pretty much from day 1 of the spring... and still is. The other guys have not pushed their way in.

Jones wants to put the Fr in live situations to see if they can challenge Worley and Peterman If they were anywhere close to being named the starter... you don't risk injury doing that.

I like Peterman. I like his talent. I like his personality in interviews better than Worley. But he continues to run with the 2's. The time the Fr are getting with the 1's actually suggests to me that neither has broken into the top 2.

None of the others may either and he may start and finish the season by default but at this juncture I think he'll be replaced.
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Jones has a history I believe of benching QB's. If Worley plays poorly then he will be benched... but the same goes for the others.

I think CBJ is laying the case out now so it's all obvious for when it does happen.
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Huh? He doesn't have to lay a case out. Worley is taking the first reps and best I can tell the majority of reps with the 1's. He wants to give the Fr their best opportunity to show what they can do so they get reps with the 1's too. Remember Peterman got reps with the 1's in the spring.

I expect Multiple QB's to play those 1st 2 games and I wouldn't bet on Worley being the starter once we hit the SEC portion of the schedule. Time will tell.
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Barring injury, I suspect that the APSU starter will be the starter at UF. My guess is 65% Worley, 35% Peterman, and 5% one of the others.

Other than the attraction to shiny new things by some... I struggle to understand all the hate being cast at Worley and to a lesser extent Peterman. I think it would probably be healthy for some to remember that both of those guys were more highly regarded than either of the Fr coming out of HS. Worley had obscene stats and was name a Gatorade Player of the Year. Peterman was a 4* and IIRC considered the best QB out of FL that year.

These guys have talent and Jones is developing it. UT has four good candidates for the job. The coaches seem to be doing due diligence to make sure the strongest one gets the job.
 
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ptclaus98 said:
Actually he played like dog ****
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He played like a true Fr, with one threat at WR, no dependable running game, and an OL that was consistently pushed back into his lap. He played better than the JUCO Sr he replaced and better than Bray when Bray returned. No. Actually he played much better than that.
 
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photovol said:
When will VN offically name the starting QB?
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LOL... You have a great point there.

I think we will see some evidence this week. If one of the Fr truly have made a move then they'll have to start running with the 1's almost exclusively. If Peterman has made a move then he just about has to start getting at least the reps the Fr have been getting with the 1's.

They go into game prep next week. If we see a continuation of what we have seen so far... then Worley is your starter and Peterman is still #2.
 
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sjt18 said:
He played like a true Fr, with one threat at WR, no dependable running game, and an OL that was consistently pushed back into his lap. He played better than the JUCO Sr he replaced and better than Bray when Bray returned. No. Actually he played much better than that.
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No, he played horribly. Regardless of the situation around him he played like garbage.
 
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ptclaus98 said:
No, he played horribly. Regardless of the situation around him he played like garbage.
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"Regardless of the situation around him".... come on, you are MUCH smarter than that. What's with the hate? Give the guy a chance.
 
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sjt18 said:
Barring injury, I suspect that the APSU starter will be the starter at UF. My guess is 65% Worley, 35% Peterman, and 5% one of the others.

Other than the attraction to shiny new things by some... I struggle to understand all the hate being cast at Worley and to a lesser extent Peterman. I think it would probably be healthy for some to remember that both of those guys were more highly regarded than either of the Fr coming out of HS. Worley had obscene stats and was name a Gatorade Player of the Year. Peterman was a 4* and IIRC considered the best QB out of FL that year.

These guys have talent and Jones is developing it. UT has for good candidates for the job. The coaches seem to be doing due diligence to make sure the strongest one gets the job.
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I have been praying for the inner gamer in Worley that helped him achieve the Gatorade Player of the Year award would finally come out.....he just can't seem to harness it though.
 
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ptclaus98 said:
No, he played horribly. Regardless of the situation around him he played like garbage.
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Either you're successful, or you fail. That doesn't depend on the situation, but depends on the results. If we can't succeed in practice situations, how do you expect us to succeed in the games? If I was Butch, I wouldn't care if there was a hurricane out there, I'd expect passes to be completed.
 
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Maybe Butch will give both some reps in the opener. Getting a little late to show confidence in one of them.
 
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sjt18 said:
He's kept the competition going. That does not mean that someone is not leading. All signs point toward Worley right now. But Jones is keeping the heat on so that none of them let up. It is a very good strategy that should result in all of them getting better. Judging from the comments that JW and Peterman have made... they are not allowing them to think about the depth chart. They are just pushing them to compete on every rep.

Barring injury, I suspect that the APSU starter will be the starter at UF. My guess is 65% Worley, 35% Peterman, and 5% one of the others.

These guys have talent and Jones is developing it. UT has four good candidates for the job. The coaches seem to be doing due diligence to make sure the strongest one gets the job.
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I am 100% sure that you are right.
 
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P.O.T.S. VOL said:
I am 100% sure that you are right.
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I don't see how someone can predict that at all. If Worley looks horrible at OR and it starts to be a blow out and another QB comes in and looks great then I doubt Worley starts against FL. We'll all see. If it was as clear cut that Worley was anything more than the defacto starter due to his seniority then you'd hear more about his leadership, etc. I've not heard one player give an interview making it sound like he's the starter or the leader either. JMO.

Yes Worley is your defacto starter right now. Time will tell if he keeps it. I'm doubting he can for multiple reasons.
 
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There is a fine line between spurring maximum competition and hedging bets. Some of you say this is all for player development. If that was the case I believe you'll hear Worley be named the starter by the close of this week. If that still isn't the case then I think you're seeing Butch waiting for the draw. He's a smart guy only he knows which is really occurint right now. I just know players generally give cues when there is a clear leader. They did with Bray, they aren't doing it now. That's kind of sad for a veteran like Worley.
 
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FTR no one named a single division 1 JR/SR QB that struggled to lock down the starting gig and went on to success. Peyton was the lone response and he was a 3rd string true freshman. His most likely "equivalent" on this roster is Ferguson.
 
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