The Section 103 Postgame Report.

#79
#79
awebb7 said:
If you think that his religion has ANYTHING to do with peoples feelings towards Pearl and his position at UT you are either insecure or stupid.
I would say based on your litany of laughable posts on this board that it's a combination of the two.
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So what specifically is your reason for disliking CBP?
 
#80
#80
Fullfillmer said:
So what specifically is your reason for disliking CBP?
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I don't dislike Pearl. I don't understand the nouveau UT basketball fan that seems to think Tennessee couldn't hit a basket in a pickup game at the rec center before Pearl came along.
Pearl has done a lot, but he has also failed to take us any further than Green at a much higher pricetag.
 
#81
#81
OrangeNYC said:
6. Bill Self's decision to play a YMCA 2-3 and let Tennessee shorten the game was utterly baffling. It allowed UT to minimize the effects of their foul trouble.

He does overlook our dribble penetration as the cause for this^^. I'm sure if KU had a coach like Hat they'd win them all.
BTW, who hates on the halftime kids? It's a college game, old man.
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good grief this is some really poor work.

I know you assume everyone here that disagrees with you is a basketball newbie, but you'd be wrong about that too. Guess the shoe fits.
 
#82
#82
awebb7 said:
I don't dislike Pearl. I don't understand the nouveau UT basketball fan that seems to think Tennessee couldn't hit a basket in a pickup game at the rec center before Pearl came along.
Pearl has done a lot, but he has also failed to take us any further than Green at a much higher pricetag.
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Ok, I understand it may not be a rosey as some make it out to be, but 1. We have had some miserable teams and years since Ray Mears and co. 2. If you think Bruce is not a very good x's and o's coach then please don't reference Green in the same paragraph 3. We currently have the 4 or 5th highest rated recruiting class coming in next year. Please indicate when we have done that previously.

4. Our winning percentage at Thompson Boling during Bruce's tenure has to be around 90 to 95% and the arena is typically full. 5. Green was a jerk who wanted me to go to Walmart if I didn't appreciate his coaching.
6. Not Pearl's fault that there has been tremendous salary inflation for head coaches in both FB and BB since Green was coaching here many, many years ago. 7. You may not like our offense but I would think that college age kids would find it very appealing. 8. So I guess we are left with what? He has not gone very deep into the tournament. Yes I agree with that but I think this may be a little bit of " Peyton has never won the big game" mentality.

I don't mind the critics and I think that is a good thing, but by the same token I appreciate fairminded criticism.

I think this board is at times taken over and defended by either the haters or the lovers and just like with politics the vast majority of us live somewhere in the middle.

Great win - FEAR THE ORANGE
 
#84
#84
Fullfillmer said:
Ok, I understand it may not be a rosey as some make it out to be, but 1. We have had some miserable teams and years since Ray Mears and co. 2. If you think Bruce is not a very good x's and o's coach then please don't reference Green in the same paragraph 3. We currently have the 4 or 5th highest rated recruiting class coming in next year. Please indicate when we have done that previously.

4. Our winning percentage at Thompson Boling during Bruce's tenure has to be around 90 to 95% and the arena is typically full. 5. Green was a jerk who wanted me to go to Walmart if I didn't appreciate his coaching.
6. Not Pearl's fault that there has been tremendous salary inflation for head coaches in both FB and BB since Green was coaching here many, many years ago. 7. You may not like our offense but I would think that college age kids would find it very appealing. 8. So I guess we are left with what? He has not gone very deep into the tournament. Yes I agree with that but I think this may be a little bit of " Peyton has never won the big game" mentality.

I don't mind the critics and I think that is a good thing, but by the same token I appreciate fairminded criticism.

I think this board is at times taken over and defended by either the haters or the lovers and just like with politics the vast majority of us live somewhere in the middle.

Great win - FEAR THE ORANGE
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Now that was a great post! :good!:
 
#86
#86
Kansas definitely had a bad game. That's how you miss 14 free throws and still beat a very good team.
 
#87
#87
Fullfillmer said:
Ok, I understand it may not be a rosey as some make it out to be, but 1. We have had some miserable teams and years since Ray Mears and co. 2. If you think Bruce is not a very good x's and o's coach then please don't reference Green in the same paragraph 3. We currently have the 4 or 5th highest rated recruiting class coming in next year. Please indicate when we have done that previously.

4. Our winning percentage at Thompson Boling during Bruce's tenure has to be around 90 to 95% and the arena is typically full. 5. Green was a jerk who wanted me to go to Walmart if I didn't appreciate his coaching.
6. Not Pearl's fault that there has been tremendous salary inflation for head coaches in both FB and BB since Green was coaching here many, many years ago. 7. You may not like our offense but I would think that college age kids would find it very appealing. 8. So I guess we are left with what? He has not gone very deep into the tournament. Yes I agree with that but I think this may be a little bit of " Peyton has never won the big game" mentality.

I don't mind the critics and I think that is a good thing, but by the same token I appreciate fairminded criticism.

I think this board is at times taken over and defended by either the haters or the lovers and just like with politics the vast majority of us live somewhere in the middle.

Great win - FEAR THE ORANGE
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1. Yes, we have.
2. Green was by no means amazing, but he wasn't totally incompetent.
3. I don't know. Recruits HAVE to be coached up or it is Fulmer-syndrome all over again.
4. Bruce does bring in the money.
5. I don't follow.
6. You are absolutely correct, but I would be curious what the market would determine is "competitive". And c'mon, Green wasn't here that long ago.
7. They may, but they also look at tournament play.
8. We disagree over some issues. I think Pearl has done well here. I don't think that he hung the moon like a few others around here, but I also don't hate him - I would just like to see him step it up, get these kids to play with some consistency, etc. We are up and down.
 
#88
#88
Kansas got outcoached. They let us play at our tempo and they refused to get the ball inside to Aldrich who would have eaten us alive. They also should have used the full court zone press more than just the last few minutes. Look for more of this as smart SEC coaches will realize. Kansas should have been able to attack our zone's weakside better than what they did. But no, they wanted to continue to launch 3 pointers after it was apparent they were not falling. Bad coaching.
 
#89
#89
utfantilidie said:
I'm really happy for this guy. Without him we lose tonight. Thanks for the break-down. I find it funny after such a great win we have people having threads about Pearl-Haters...besides the kids won the game did they not?
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So are you really giving CBP no credit? Big turnover margins and break points created off D are his signature, and we did both well yesterday. Even some inbounds TO's, which CBP gets more than anyone I've ever seen, regardless of whose playing for him.
 
#90
#90
awebb7 said:
I don't dislike Pearl. I don't understand the nouveau UT basketball fan that seems to think Tennessee couldn't hit a basket in a pickup game at the rec center before Pearl came along.
Pearl has done a lot, but he has also failed to take us any further than Green at a much higher pricetag.
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Pearl's salary is 3rd in the SEC behind Calipari and Donovan. Which other SEC program would you put us behind at this point?
 
#91
#91
awebb7 said:
If you think that his religion has ANYTHING to do with peoples feelings towards Pearl and his position at UT you are either insecure or stupid.
I would say based on your litany of laughable posts on this board that it's a combination of the two.
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Well, your opinions have nothing to do with success or win/loss ratios, or even recruiting or postseason accomplishments, so what should I think? All the lawyer talk makes the hater crew very suspicious...
 
#92
#92
awebb7 said:
I don't dislike Pearl. I don't understand the nouveau UT basketball fan that seems to think Tennessee couldn't hit a basket in a pickup game at the rec center before Pearl came along.
Pearl has done a lot, but he has also failed to take us any further than Green at a much higher pricetag.
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To say the Vols are the same in terms of their wins, tourney play, recruiting, national presence, or standing in the SEC as they were under Jerry Green is just plain wrong. I was a fan then as well, and the Toni Harris led Vols were awful to watch. You think Chism does dumb stuff now, that whole team was a bad decision waiting to happen. Where do you get your idea of what it was like with Jerry Green? Is it just that 12 year old bliss you are recollecting?
 
#93
#93
OrangeNYC said:
To say the Vols are the same in terms of their wins, tourney play, recruiting, national presence, or standing in the SEC as they were under Jerry Green is just plain wrong. I was a fan then as well, and the Toni Harris led Vols were awful to watch. You think Chism does dumb stuff now, that whole team was a bad decision waiting to happen. Where do you get your idea of what it was like with Jerry Green? Is it just that 12 year old bliss you are recollecting?
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You're brilliant. I was there, in TBA, sitting in the student section.

Care to tell me any more about myself?
 
#94
#94
OrangeNYC said:
To say the Vols are the same in terms of their wins, tourney play, recruiting, national presence, or standing in the SEC as they were under Jerry Green is just plain wrong. I was a fan then as well, and the Toni Harris led Vols were awful to watch. You think Chism does dumb stuff now, that whole team was a bad decision waiting to happen. Where do you get your idea of what it was like with Jerry Green? Is it just that 12 year old bliss you are recollecting?
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How is the Tourney play any different under Pearl as it was under Green? Pretty sure I didn't miss us going to the Elite Eight under Pearl.
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#95
#95
BigPapaVol said:
good grief this is some really poor work.

I know you assume everyone here that disagrees with you is a basketball newbie, but you'd be wrong about that too. Guess the shoe fits.
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The shoe fits? That makes no sense. Which shoe do you mean, mr poor work glass house?
I actually consider you and hat old-school minded, not newbies. Some of these others on your 'side', however, are truly clueless. I get what you want, and that style you prefer does work, and always has. I just think CBP is something special, and he makes his unique style work as well, better than an old-school system would for us with our talent, imo. Now he's created something that is attracting top talent to Knoxville, and it's because it's exciting and different. I'm not wrong about this. If you weren't so stubborn, you could cheer for something really special. It's not too late to be a Vol fan.
 
#96
#96
awebb7 said:
You're brilliant. I was there, in TBA, sitting in the student section.

Care to tell me any more about myself?
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Obviously you were too drunk to pay attention to that train wreck of a squad we had. How else could anyone who was around for the Jerry Green era think it better or even equal to now?
 
#97
#97
OrangeNYC said:
Obviously you were too drunk to pay attention to that train wreck of a squad we had. How else could anyone who was around for the Jerry Green era think it better or even equal to now?
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Because the tournament results are the same. That is how you judge a basketball team, not on regular season victories.
 
#98
#98
Spens said:
Because the tournament results are the same. That is how you judge a basketball team, not on regular season victories.
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But they weren't. JG lost to lower seeds every year, once getting beat by 30 by sw missouri. CBP has made two sweet 16's to JG's one, and if your argument is the clownish "sweet 16's mean nothing" that I hear your fellow haters espouse, then you already lost this argument and your personal battle with idiocy. What is wrong with you haters, anyway? CBP is the man, and you are all fools for missing out on the best run UT's ever had because of some stupid stubborn bias you hold.
 
#99
#99
OrangeNYC said:
But they weren't. JG lost to lower seeds every year, once getting beat by 30 by sw missouri. CBP has made two sweet 16's to JG's one, and if your argument is the clownish "sweet 16's mean nothing" that I hear your fellow haters espouse, then you already lost this argument and your personal battle with idiocy. What is wrong with you haters, anyway? CBP is the man, and you are all fools for missing out on the best run UT's ever had because of some stupid stubborn bias you hold.
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Have you ever looked at the list of teams who have played in the Sweet 16?
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