The Thread Where People Argue About Kneeling in the NFL (merged)

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Not sure of your point. I don't watch the NFL anymore, and no one notices or cares, but if you hit them publicly and directly they will sit up and pay attention.

I guess the one thing you and I do agree on is that it is really none of the government's business, but if people did walk out and sue for refunds, I would think the .gov would have to unfortunately get involved.
 
Not sure of your point. I don't watch the NFL anymore, and no one notices or cares, but if you hit them publicly and directly they will sit up and pay attention.

I guess the one thing you and I do agree on is that it is really none of the government's business, but if people did walk out and sue for refunds, I would think the .gov would have to unfortunately get involved.

Why is this a state issue?
 
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If you're so offended by someone kneeling during the national anthem that you'll need to leave the game, maybe going out into the world isn't for you.
 
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Trump is planning to go to the national championship game. I wonder if the players will take a knee during the national anthem? Would be funny to watch Trump's head explode on live TV.
 
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Trump is planning to go to the national championship game. I wonder if the players will take a knee during the national anthem? Would be funny to watch Trump's head explode on live TV.

I bet you’ll be watching with a bottle of lotion in one hand.
 
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Trump is planning to go to the national championship game. I wonder if the players will take a knee during the national anthem? Would be funny to watch Trump's head explode on live TV.

College players rarely are ever on the field during the anthem. It’s almost like you’ve never been too a game.
 
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College players rarely are ever on the field during the anthem. It’s almost like you’ve never been too a game.

It was like that in the NFL for a long time... until the US military began to politicize the NFL over the last decade to rally support for our war efforts.
 
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Trump is planning to go to the national championship game. I wonder if the players will take a knee during the national anthem? Would be funny to watch Trump's head explode on live TV.

Sorry to disappoint but the gators aren’t playing in the championship game snowflake
 

It's not really a lie. He might be partially wrong about players not standing for the anthem but the US military is paying for these shows of patriotism and that is a recent development.

Either way, if the players were doing it willingly before 2009, that means they are in fact and always have been patriotic, for the most part, right?

It's like we have to create these stupid false dichotomies. You either do it the way I do it, or you're unpatriotic. You either support the cops or you hate them. You either sympathize with black lives matter or you despise them. The world is gray.
 
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It's not really a lie. He might be partially wrong about players not standing for the anthem but the US military is paying for these shows of patriotism and that is a recent development.

Either way, if the players were doing it willingly before 2009, that means they are in fact and always have been patriotic, for the most part, right?

It's like we have to create these stupid false dichotomies. You either do it the way I do it, or you're unpatriotic. You either support the cops or you hate them. You either sympathize with black lives matter or you despise them. The world is gray.

They were on the field for regular Sunday games before ‘09. Not on the field for prime time games. Now they are for both. They didn’t ALL start after ‘09 simply because of the military paying for patriotism. So yes, lie.

No **** the world is gray. You’re one of the worst black/white people here. Lmao

Now, go back to hyperventilating over he pot thing.
 
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A typical game was watched by 1.6 million fewer people this season as compared to last season (14.9 million versus 16.5 million).

The drop comes after the NFL had hoped to stem an 8 percent ratings slide from last season by experimenting with the format for television commercials and trying to speed up the game.

Last year's slide was partly attributed to a lost audience due to the presidential election. This year, the NFL was challenged with fans upset at players protesting during the national anthem, an action that led to a league faceoff with President Donald Trump.

Other factors cited include the dilution of the product through Thursday Night Football, which was broadcast on the NFL Network, CBS, NBC and Amazon Prime in 2017. This season, both Fox CEO James Murdoch and CBS Sports Chairman Sean McManus blamed the ratings slide on the proliferation of games.

The NFL RedZone also might be a factor in taking fans away from watching the daytime games on CBS and FOX. The NFL Network and DirecTV, which air separate versions of the show that broadcast live look-ins, have never shared viewership numbers.

The NFL isn't in a vacuum, as the viewership drop is indicative of the general environment as less television is being watched and cable subscriptions have declined. The NBA, however, has seen a 20 percent increase in viewership this season as compared to 2016-17.

Despite the drop in NFL ratings, Nielsen data shows that the 20 of the 30 highest-rated shows on television in 2017 were football games. Both NBC and ESPN had the most-watched shows every single week, in terms of audience and in all key male demographics, for Sunday Night Football and Monday Night Football games this season.

NFL television ratings down 9.7 percent during 2017 regular season
 

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