The Thread Where People Argue About Kneeling in the NFL (merged)

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n_huffhines said:
Everything you say to me is stupid. Literally everything.

You either don't know about the jock tax or you're being needlessly particular about the number of regular season games they play out of state.
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SpaceCoastVol said:
Well OK then. I really don't care, but what you said is simply ig'nant.
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Am I missing something?
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
I started to jump on his post as well, because on the surface it does look idiotic. But he has a point about the individual fan. He's picking fly **** out of pepper though, but he is correct. The league doesn't give a flying **** about you or me as individuals, but when the stadiums are empty, they take notice. When jersey sales are down, they notice... That's why 'organized' boycotts of any kind against any company are usually laughable because they know there will never be enough protesters to make any difference in the bottom line. And companies, in this case the NFL... don't care because they know it won't last. Fans will be flocking back in the fall. Clownperdick is gone and all but forgotten. The world is on its' correct axis once again for the NFL.
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Then explain the need for the new rule.......I am a vendor the the NFL.....they are noticing the fans speaking with their wallet.......this new rule is the result.....it is very naive to think that this is a "non-issue"......
 
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T-TownVol said:
Then explain the need for the new rule.......I am a vendor the the NFL.....they are noticing the fans speaking with their wallet.......this new rule is the result.....it is very naive to think that this is a "non-issue"......
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It would be forgotten, and forgiven in another year even if the NFL dindonuffin. guaranteed. To illustrate the psyche, how many people keep New Years resolutions?. Use that as a baseline. Remember the baseball strike in the 80s? Nobody else does either. At some point these fools will stand up on their own, and all this angst goes away.
 
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T-TownVol said:
Then explain the need for the new rule.......I am a vendor the the NFL.....they are noticing the fans speaking with their wallet.......this new rule is the result.....it is very naive to think that this is a "non-issue"......
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Owners want every available dollar they can get their hands on, and can't stand losing any of it. That's different from the league being in actual jeopardy over this. Owners want to expand to London even though it makes no logistical sense, because they want more money. Owners want to play on Thursdays even though it contradicts their "player safety" message, because they want more money.

If I go up to Roger Goodell and tell him it's me or Tom Brady, he's not choosing me. And he's not choosing an owner either.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Am I missing something?
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There is no way an OL that plays for the Vikings is paying more in taxes than an OL playing for Tampa Bay with the same salary, especially if they both live in a no tax state. If that is true, then they have some seriously overpaid accountants and tax attorneys working for the NFL
 
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NashVol11 said:
Owners want every available dollar they can get their hands on, and can't stand losing any of it. That's different from the league being in actual jeopardy over this. Owners want to expand to London even though it makes no logistical sense, because they want more money. Owners want to play on Thursdays even though it contradicts their "player safety" message, because they want more money.

If I go up to Roger Goodell and tell him it's me or Tom Brady, he's not choosing me. And he's not choosing an owner either.
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He might choose the owner, but the rest is spot on.
 
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NashVol11 said:
Owners want every available dollar they can get their hands on, and can't stand losing any of it. That's different from the league being in actual jeopardy over this. Owners want to expand to London even though it makes no logistical sense, because they want more money. Owners want to play on Thursdays even though it contradicts their "player safety" message, because they want more money.

If I go up to Roger Goodell and tell him it's me or Tom Brady, he's not choosing me. And he's not choosing an owner either.
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How DARE a business owner want to make money off the business he funds with his own money......FOR SHAME......I repeat.......You are clueless.......players have the CHOICE of playing for the league......they DESERVE whatever the owner of the business wants to pay them.......
 
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NashVol11 said:
I mean, I agree with you that it's a lot of money, and there are other occupations that provide more tangible benefits to society. But if that's the amount the public is willing to generate to watch them, then they earned it and (in some sense) deserve it. It mostly depends on how you define "deserve" though
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I admittedly can’t argue the logic in this. As long as enough people are willing to pay the amounts the owners need to propagate their eutopian society they aren’t going to change a damn thing. No reason to.

I remember when I was a young engineer during the week before it got unbearably hot and the Rangers were playing day games we could take off on a Wednesday afternoon head to the park and get some cheap bleacher seats at the last minute. Beers weren’t ridiculous. Then hit a sports bar on the way home and not break the bank. Now imagine a guy trying to take his two sons to a ballgame. Freaking ridiculous.

Yeah yeah. I know. Get off my lawn.
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
There is no way an OL that plays for the Vikings is paying more in taxes than an OL playing for Tampa Bay with the same salary, especially if they both live in a no tax state. If that is true, then they have some seriously overpaid accountants and tax attorneys working for the NFL
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Wait, Minnesota is an income tax state.

Am I missing something?
 
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volbeast33 said:
Jimmy G....

1-10 with Kap..... started 1-10 next season.... pick up jimmy G when he starts they went 5-0.
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They were 1-10 with Kap, but it wasn't because of him. He actually had pretty good stats. 4:1 TD to INT ratio, and the other stats are solid too. The team was just terrible and the QB, as he always does, gets too much blame for losing.

2017 49ers were a pretty different squad. Only 23 players from the 2016 team were on the 2017 team....23.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
I admittedly can’t argue the logic in this. As long as enough people are willing to pay the amounts the owners need to propagate their eutopian society they aren’t going to change a damn thing. No reason to.

I remember when I was a young engineer during the week before it got unbearably hot and the Rangers were playing day games we could take off on a Wednesday afternoon head to the park and get some cheap bleacher seats at the last minute. Beers weren’t ridiculous. Then hit a sports bar on the way home and not break the bank. Now imagine a guy trying to take his two sons to a ballgame. Freaking ridiculous.

Yeah yeah. I know. Get off my lawn.
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The Yankees actually still have some $5-10 tickets, but everything else has gotten out of control. Hopefully the Falcons' cheap concessions model catches on.
 
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T-TownVol said:
That is where he has a disconnect......without the owners RG has no job.....neither do the players.......without the fans, the owners shut it down.......
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Right, but any one fan is replaceable and I'd say the owners are too. Jerry Richardson was accused of sexual harassment and sold his team already, because tons of people want to own a team. Big Ben was accused of rape (twice?) and the Steelers are begging him not to retire.
 
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NashVol11 said:
Right, but any one fan is replaceable and I'd say the owners are too. Jerry Richardson was accused of sexual harassment and sold his team already, because tons of people want to own a team. Big Ben was accused of rape (twice?) and the Steelers are begging him not to retire.
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You are building some very weak strawmen........
 
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n_huffhines said:
They were 1-10 with Kap, but it wasn't because of him. He actually had pretty good stats. 4:1 TD to INT ratio, and the other stats are solid too. The team was just terrible and the QB, as he always does, gets too much blame for losing.

2017 49ers were a pretty different squad. Only 23 players from the 2016 team were on the 2017 team....23.
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He is good enough to be a back up QB....nothing more nothing less and therefore not worth it.
 
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NashVol11 said:
The Yankees actually still have some $5-10 tickets, but everything else has gotten out of control. Hopefully the Falcons' cheap concessions model catches on.
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That’s cool and the fans should be supportive of that. Yeah kudos to the Falcons for doing that but I live near Frisco and I’m pretty sure I can still hear JJ laughing about it *sigh*
 
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n_huffhines said:
They were 1-10 with Kap, but it wasn't because of him. He actually had pretty good stats. 4:1 TD to INT ratio, and the other stats are solid too. The team was just terrible and the QB, as he always does, gets too much blame for losing.

2017 49ers were a pretty different squad. Only 23 players from the 2016 team were on the 2017 team....23.
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God..you probably think JG is a good QB don't you..
 
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