The Thread Where People Argue About Kneeling in the NFL (merged)

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Sin City Vol said:
Its ignorant... whether you like it or not he has the right kneel during the anthem. He’s paying the price by not being on a nfl roster.
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This is true and what I think a lot of the players can't quite seem to grasp. They simply need to realize they're is a better time, place and way to protest.
 
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n_huffhines said:
There are legitimate gripes against the president that don't pertain to race.

I know I wouldn't visit any POTUS of my lifetime. **** em all.
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I agree, but everything is turning into that. If it’s a statue that offends people or a building at a University named after someone that did something in the 18th or 19th century that social media disagrees with everything snowballs. It’s bull****, everyone has to find something to be pissed about.

I disagree with you about visiting the POTUS. I think it would be an honor no matter who it was.

If the Eagles didn’t want to come to the White House, ok, you do you, but have the ability to have a discussion ( I know it goes both ways). I think LeBron is a complete pu$$y when it comes to some of his social stances. Wearing a “safety pin” on your SI sportsman of the year cover? GTFO out of here.
 
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RDU VOL#14 said:
I agree, but everything is turning into that. If it’s a statue that offends people or a building at a University named after someone that did something in the 18th or 19th century that social media disagrees with everything snowballs. It’s bull****, everyone has to find something to be pissed about.

I disagree with you about visiting the POTUS. I think it would be an honor no matter who it was.

If the Eagles didn’t want to come to the White House, ok, you do you, but have the ability to have a discussion ( I know it goes both ways). I think LeBron is a complete pu$$y when it comes to some of his social stances. Wearing a “safety pin” on your SI sportsman of the year cover? GTFO out of here.
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n_huffhines said:
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I’m not pissed about LeBron wearing a safety pin. I think it’s dumb, but he can do what he wants. I basically just disagree with people who think they need a safe place, especially in this country .
I keep my opinions to myself, other than on an anonymous message board. I don’t push my beliefs on others because that’s not my motivation.
 
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evillawyer said:
Sort of like one of us saying we're not inviting a Victoria Secret's model on vacation. Don't think the invitation would have been accepted.
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Probably wouldn't be accepted but I'm glad he's not even offering an invitation. They are all attention whores and wanna be social justice warriors, everyone needs a "cause"
 
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evillawyer said:
Sort of like one of us saying we're not inviting a Victoria Secret's model on vacation. Don't think the invitation would have been accepted.
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I'll take my chances. If you could just forward the addresses of some Victoria's Secret models, I'll start sending invitations.
 
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RDU VOL#14 said:
I asked this the other day.

What are they winning? What is Kap winning? Are minorities winning?No?
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You don't see this invitation to request pardons for victims of the CJS as a win? Seems like this is exactly the sort of thing they were after.

Are you asking what Kap's won from a self-interested perspective?
 
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n_huffhines said:
You don't see this invitation to request pardons for victims of the CJS as a win? Seems like this is exactly the sort of thing they were after.

Are you asking what Kap's won from a self-interested perspective?
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Who is arguing against the pardons? You just love to make things up to argue. You’re like a little child. Hahaha
 
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n_huffhines said:
You don't see this invitation to request pardons for victims of the CJS as a win? Seems like this is exactly the sort of thing they were after.

Are you asking what Kap's won from a self-interested perspective?
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If the players want a discussion that’s a good thing. I’m not saying that there should not be. I’m just wondering what people want done here. If you want a voice, great, you deserve it, it is your right. If you want change and fairness for mirorities with law enforcement, that’s obviously what I hope most people want. How?

I think that I just don’t know what this has turned into. Yes, Trump has exasperated this situation, but I also think it has been fueled by people other than Kap. Now it’s turned into this anti-Trump issue. So for those saying Trump is the one being devisive it’s a 2 way street.
 
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Considering D-Day was yesterday, and I find this meme so fitting, I thought I'd post it again.
 

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Orangedogsrule said:
Considering D-Day was yesterday, and I find this meme so fitting, I thought I'd post it again.
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What an ugly, fascist conflation. Kneeling was about cops arbitrarily perpetrating acts of violence upon black people - not in any way a slight to those who served.

If the national anthem doesn't stand in part for the liberty to protest, it stands for ****.

FWIW, John Adams and Thomas Paine would be mocking these unquestioning, mindless "patriots."
 
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Bjorn_Yesterday said:
What an ugly, fascist conflation. Kneeling was about cops arbitrarily perpetrating acts of violence upon black people - not in any way a slight to those who served.

If the national anthem doesn't stand in part for the liberty to protest, it stands for ****.

FWIW, John Adams and Thomas Paine would be mocking these unquestioning, mindless "patriots."
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Agreed
 
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Bjorn_Yesterday said:
What an ugly, fascist conflation. Kneeling was about cops arbitrarily perpetrating acts of violence upon black people - not in any way a slight to those who served.

If the national anthem doesn't stand in part for the liberty to protest, it stands for ****.

FWIW, John Adams and Thomas Paine would be mocking these unquestioning, mindless "patriots."
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For effectiveness, wouldn’t directing the “protests” at the root for their disdain (i.e. oppressive, racially discriminatory departments) be more prudent?

It’s disingenuous to believe they have an innate freedom, but encourage them to display this freedom on the dumbest of platforms. Also, how many of the participants have skin in the game, no pun intended? Very few.

Liberal logic never fails to be perplexing.
 
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n_huffhines said:
The players are #winning, bro.
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Huff I think you are a cool cat in real life. If I ever go see my brother in AZ, I would hit you up and have a beer...that said, you are wrong so much on here it's crazy. Some times I think you just pick the opposite side of every issue so you can argue, like you really miss the debate team from HS or something...wow..

Btw... my older brother was never really a Vol fan, only went to 2 games with me in his whole life, while I went to nearly every home game in my childhood..pappaw had great season tix...so he moves to AZ where he has family like 2 years before the natl champ game...gets tix and goes...every Vols fan dream to actually be there when we win the 1st championship since 1951...he gets to go for nearly nothing, just on pure luck as a local, half azz vol fan...smdh
 
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marcusluvsvols said:
Huff I think you are a cool cat in real life. If I ever go see my brother in AZ, I would hit you up and have a beer...that said, you are wrong so much on here it's crazy. Some times I think you just pick the opposite side of every issue so you can argue, like you really miss the debate team from HS or something...wow..

Btw... my older brother was never really a Vol fan, only went to 2 games with me in his whole life, while I went to nearly every home game in my childhood..pappaw had great season tix...so he moves to AZ where he has family like 2 years before the natl champ game...gets tix and goes...every Vols fan dream to actually be there when we win the 1st championship since 1951...he gets to go for nearly nothing, just on pure luck as a local, half azz vol fan...smdh
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You are merely another milepost for Huff. He argues with every single one he can find.
 
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This is just me, but if my protest is against how cops treat minorities, I'm taking it to the people I'm protesting against. Protest outside a police station, or a jail even. What does football have to do with it, and why do football fans need to be subjected to it? I totally understand the right to protest. At the same time, I totally understand my right to disagree or be offended by your protest. You can protest, but I shouldn't be held hostage by your protest. And before someone makes the stupid suggestion of just "leaving the game". If I've paid hundreds of dollars to go and watch a game, I should be able to watch said game without you forcing me to be part of your protest. Pick a different venue. Do it on your own time. You don't go to a game to see players espouse their political views.
 
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