The Thread Where People Argue About Kneeling in the NFL (merged)

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#5,826
NashVol11 said:
They probably thought that when they unanimously stated it wasn’t about the military, people would understand that instead of covering their ears and trying to twist it into something evil. You can blame the players for fans’ willful ignorance if you want, but it seems pretty misdirected to me
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For the millionth time, what they say they’re protesting isn’t matching what they’re actually protesting. It’s humorous.
 
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tumscalcium said:
For the millionth time, what they say they’re protesting isn’t matching what they’re actually protesting. It’s humorous.
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They are protesting whatever they say they’re protesting. Intent is part of the equation. That’s what a protest is. The idea that “they ARE protesting the military, even though they don’t mean to” is stupid as hell.
 
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NashVol11 said:
They are protesting whatever they say they’re protesting. Intent is part of the equation. That’s what a protest is. The idea that “they ARE protesting the military, even though they don’t mean to” is stupid as hell.
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What they say they’re doing isn’t matching what they’re doing. This isn’t hard to see. This is why it’s all muddled.

Some don’t even know what they’re doing. In fact, what are they protesting?
 
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NashVol11 said:
They probably thought that when they unanimously stated it wasn’t about the military, people would understand that instead of covering their ears and trying to twist it into something evil. You can blame the players for fans’ willful ignorance if you want, but it seems pretty misdirected to me
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They know it has nothing at all to do with the military. They just are using the military as a shield because they don't want anyone protesting no matter what the reason is. It is a right wing shaming tactic and a distraction.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
To an extent, you are correct. They are different.

The snowflakes on the left were freaking out over who was POTUS, which has some significance on your daily life.

Meanwhile, the snowflakes on the right are freaking out over something that has zero impact on their daily lives, which is actually worse.
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No its not any worse. But point taken.
 
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tumscalcium said:
I never said just. He said the flag didn’t have anything to do with the military. You need to see that post again.
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And on the other side, they believe it only belongs to the military.

The protestors are not the ones that muddied the water. They were very clear that the protest has nothing to do with the military.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Police brutality. Which obviously only started happening a few years ago.
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So you are upset that they are just now using their platform to protest? I mean you just admitted it’s a problem in a toungue and cheek way. I agree they should have protested earlier. And the whole black citizens killing black citizens doesn’t make any sense. The government killing people is different then citizens.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
And on the other side, they believe it only belongs to the military.

The protestors are not the ones that muddied the water. They were very clear that the protest has nothing to do with the military.
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Don’t change the subject. Also, if they wanted to be clear they should be protesting what they say they’re protesting. They’re not.
 
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volfanhill said:
So you are upset that they are just now using their platform to protest? I mean you just admitted it’s a problem in a toungue and cheek way. I agree they should have protested earlier. And the whole black citizens killing black citizens doesn’t make any sense. The government killing people is different then citizens.
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It’s doing a lot of good. Lll
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Yeah, if the 2 minutes before a game gets you just as worked up as people that are upset about a presidential election, it is worse.

No way you can spin in any other way.
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Getting worked up? I think it’s great. Pointing out their stupidity and inconsistency has been fun.
 
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tumscalcium said:
Don’t change the subject. Also, if they wanted to be clear they should be protesting what they say they’re protesting. They’re not.
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They were clear, and most people with intelligence knows that they are not directing their protest at the military. This has been said countless times to the point of it being nauseating.

Either the other side is as dim as a 5W bulb or they are just being disingenuous in trying to define their cause. I think most on the other side are intelligent and know good and damn well what they are doing, so l lean more on the latter than the former.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
They were clear, and most people with intelligence knows that they are not directing their protest at the military. This has been said countless times to the point of it being nauseating.

Either the other side is as dim as a 5W bulb or they are just being disingenuous in trying to define their cause. I think most on the other side are intelligent and know good and damn well what they are doing, so l lean more on the latter than the former.
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Oh my god. You can’t say that the flag only means what protesters want it to mean and completely ignore what it means to others. Even so, the flag doesn’t mean police brutality. That’s just stupid. Lol. If they want to protest the police then go protest the police.... this isn’t hard. If they want people to support their cause, they probably shouldn’t try to disrespect them....

Hence their retardation has been muddled, for the millionth time.
 
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