The Thread Where People Argue About Kneeling in the NFL (merged)

[DinkinFlicka]

wut?

My interpretation of CP's post. You know, the post you were literally just talking about?

 

[LSU-SIU]

Ok. So what?

They are allowed to do that. They are breaking no laws. They are not causing anyone harm. If you don't like it, stop watching.

For God's sake, don't watch and then complain about what you see.

I agree, and also, nuke it from orbit by petitioning local/state governments to pull the taxpayer welfare checks to the players/owners. Furthermore, petition federal representatives to pull ad dollars and their anti-trust exemption status.

"It's the only way to be sure"

 

[luthervol]

Yeah, it is an escape for the "normal" folks.

It's also a job for the athletes and coaches. But I could give a darn less what their stance in on a great many things. Just because you are on a screen or can play ball doesn't mean the rest of us give a **** what you think about this, that or the other.

I agree. Most people could care less. So what's the big deal? Just because I thought Charlton Heston was an idiot doesn't make me like The Ten Commandments any less. Ted Nugent being a moron doesn't mean I still can't enjoy listening to Wang Dang Sweet Poontang.

 

[hog88]

My interpretation of CP's post. You know, the post you were literally just talking about?

Over 10 minutes ago, done forgot.

 

[NashVol11]

I don't care if they kneel! It's their American right. I care about the fact that it's a bunch of people who really don't know what they are protesting and are only doing so because it's the cool thing to do now. Couple that with the fact people are looking at Kap like he's a ****ing martyr, when the reality is that he's a ****ing moron being influenced by a radical left woman.

So you don't like the protests because you know, as a mind-reader, that they're not protesting for the "right" (as determined by you, the moral authority) reasons?

 

[DinkinFlicka]

Over 10 minutes ago, done forgot.

Ain't there a pill for that?

 

[hog88]

Ain't there a pill for that?

I don't think there's a pill that fixes IDGAF.

 

[Septic]

Obamacare repealed failed again. The island of Puerto Rico is without power and Kushner & Ivanka both using personal email for .gov bitness. Meanwhile trumpo and his flunkies are bloviating about NFL ratings.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daOH-pTd_nk[/youtube]

 

[LSU-SIU]

So you don't like the protests because you know, as a mind-reader, that they're not protesting for the "right" (as determined by you, the moral authority) reasons?

Its called political grand standing, its legally okay for them to do -- its further okay for other people to mock.

This has nothing to do with "rights" at the moment and everything to do with a terrible business decision.

 

[DinkinFlicka]

I don't think there's a pill that fixes IDGAF.

Sure there is. It's called pressing alt+f4 when your browser is on VN and retreating to your bathroom before proceeding to **** yourself.

 

[allvol123]

Lol. Southern whites defended the KKK by saying "The danger isn't real or widespread, the victims brought it upon themselves, if the attackers were really doing something wrong the law would take care of it."

For Jim Crow, they said, "Poll taxes aren't racist; if they disproportionately affect black people, it's because black people are lazy and don't work hard enough. It's separate but equal; if we're unequal, it's black people's fault for not keeping up."

Reread the arguments you've been making and compare them

No group is condoning killing of innocent black by authorities.

These protests are childish and ignorant.

Again, many of the protesters are racist.

 

[allvol123]

Pretty sure Neo Nazis aren't opposed to the Holocaust.

And they are so prevalent. Around every corner.

 

[DinkinFlicka]

And they are so prevalent. Around every corner.

You asked and I answered.

Though there are more around than you want to accept.

 

[hog88]

Sure there is. It's called pressing alt+f4 when your browser is on VN and retreating to your bathroom before proceeding to **** yourself.

Cute.

 

[LSU-SIU]

And when government does violate rights..?

It is most often citizens who push back to retain those rights, not government self-correcting. Your comment is not logical.

Who else would it be that pushes back, if not The People? Of course, you have should keep the government in check, who is saying otherwise?
I am having a hard time understanding what point you are making.

 

[Sin City Vol]

Who else would it be that pushes back, if not The People? Of course, you have should keep the government in check, who is saying otherwise?
I am having a hard time understanding what point you are making.

Well, you did go to LSU...so there is that

 

[AM64]

The NFL has TV revenues pledged thru 2020. Basically the NFL's money is in the bank. The networks would have to break the contract if ratings go down. I would expect lawyers are salivating over this right now!

Overall this is good for America. Families can find something to do together on Sundays!

Only the government can exist indefinitely on deficit spending (at least they think they can). TV networks aren't the government. Can't squeeze blood out of a rock.

 

[LSU-SIU]

Well, you did go to LSU...so there is that

Yeah, I agree, clearly I should have enrolled at the School of Lebron James. Sad.

 

[Grand Vol]

Obamacare repealed failed again.

And you still have yet to acknowledge the simple fact that's out of his control.

Sad as I know you hate facts and all.

 

[Grand Vol]

So you don't like the protests because you know, as a mind-reader, that they're not protesting for the "right" (as determined by you, the moral authority) reasons?

Exactly what are they protesting?

Against perceived injustices?

For racial equality?

Against police brutality?

Against Trump?

Because, in reality, if it was the injustices, equality or brutality, why wasn't this started when Kap first did it?

Be very careful in your answer...

 

[RDU VOL#14]

So you don't like the protests because you know, as a mind-reader, that they're not protesting for the "right" (as determined by you, the moral authority) reasons?

It doesn't take a mind reader to understand people's motivations. A former Army Ranger had to apologize for standing for the anthem. How is that for motivation?

 

[LSU-SIU]

It doesn't take a mind reader to understand people's motivations. A former Army Ranger had to apologize for standing for the anthem. How is that for motivation?

I think he apologized as to how it worked out. I believe there was suppose to be other players there and there was a mix up.... so it looked like he was the only one standing.

That is how I read it. idk

The whole thing is quite stupid to be honest.

 

[n_huffhines]

Exactly what are they protesting?

Against perceived injustices?

For racial equality?

Against police brutality?

Against Trump?

Because, in reality, if it was the injustices, equality or brutality, why wasn't this started when Kap first did it?

Be very careful in your answer...

It's a protest that people are very sensitive about and it's easy to see why other players weren't eager to jump in. I think as the issue has snowballed and now with Trump calling them out, I think players felt like they are now in a position where they had to pick a side.

Now there are some players that are protesting Trump. There are some players who are doing it just because. But just because they didn't kneel until recently doesn't mean they are doing it for the wrong reasons.

 

[n_huffhines]

It doesn't take a mind reader to understand people's motivations. A former Army Ranger had to apologize for standing for the anthem. How is that for motivation?

What?

 

[LSU-SIU]

Now there are some players that are protesting Trump. There are some players who are doing it just because. But just because they didn't kneel until recently doesn't mean they are doing it for the wrong reasons.

How can it ever be the "wrong" reason?