This Is Alabama, We Speak English

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Cash Vallin said:
so wait, with the healthcare bill it's stupid to be like other countries... but when it helps your cause it's ok???? HYPOCRISY
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No. Healthcare bill us stupid because our government is incapable of efficiently or effectively adminstrating anything. Any moron who thinks care will get better or cheaper is in fantasyland. Other countries have nothing to do with socialist steps being a bad idea.
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Oh, and for the record, I think that that is kind of pointless. Let people speak what they want. Why write a bill and do all this? Is the state government in Alabama so stupid that they have to be reminded which language to speak?
 
#81
#81
Cash Vallin said:
so wait, with the healthcare bill it's stupid to be like other countries... but when it helps your cause it's ok???? HYPOCRISY
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I couldn't wait for you to make this comparison. I knew it was a matter of time.

Health Care Pros: Americans who haven't gotten coverage will now get coverage. (Take out the people who were uninsured by choice and the people who are simply too lazy to do anything and don't deserve help, and it's s pretty small percentage of people it benefits.)
Health Care Cons: Socialistic, bad for smaller businesses, unfairly takes more money from hard working people and rewards free-loaders, will result in a decrease in health care quality and efficiency, and will be horrible economically for states.

Official English Language Pros: More convenient for current citizens, ensures business conducted in English, encourages assimilation among legal immigrants.
Official English Language Cons: Essentially none for legal citizens.

Don't use your socialistic garbage to fit your ridiculous agenda.
 
#82
#82
tvolsfan said:
Canada and Mexico, and I'd guess just almost every other country in North America has an official language. Stupid racists.
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Ha, great argument. Let's ban all other languages, all foreign foods and goods.
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#83
#83
Cash Vallin said:
and you conservatives don't??? hahahahhaha
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We do, but that's just because we've been going after you too long. I'm not saying conservatives are smarter than liberals, but on this board, the liberals don't seem get much information outside the media.
 
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Vols520 said:
Ha, great argument. Let's ban all other languages, all foreign foods and goods.
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Did those countries ban those things? Or is it possible to have an official language without racism or being intolerant of culture?
 
#87
#87
Vols520 said:
It's not refusal to discuss the issue, it's an opinion.
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Vols520 said:
How is this not intolerant?
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Tolerance is a broad term. Suggesting that english only advocates are bigots or racist is an intolerant position in and of itself since it ignores the potential for an honest position on an issue; a position that is rooted in other viewpoints than racism or bigotry.

This is the irony - the tolerance advocates often resort to stereotyping or at a minimum a failure to appreciate opposing viewpoints as legitimate.
 
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tvolsfan said:
I couldn't wait for you to make this comparison. I knew it was a matter of time.

Health Care Pros: Americans who haven't gotten coverage will now get coverage. (Take out the people who were uninsured by choice and the people who are simply too lazy to do anything and don't deserve help, and it's s pretty small percentage of people it benefits.)
Health Care Cons: Socialistic, bad for smaller businesses, unfairly takes more money from hard working people and rewards free-loaders, will result in a decrease in health care quality and efficiency, and will be horrible economically for states.

Official English Language Pros: More convenient for current citizens, ensures business conducted in English, encourages assimilation among legal immigrants.
Official English Language Cons: Essentially none for legal citizens.

Don't use your socialistic garbage to fit your ridiculous agenda.
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thanks for proving a point.... your way or no way... nope, you have to go with the status quo...

and how does having spanish under an english document make it any less inconvenient for citizens??? IT DOESN'T unless you want it to. I deal with the same stuff, yet, somehow I'm not bothered by it. The second you realize everybody aint like you, the better off you will be.

More than likely, though, there's ZERO diversity in your life so you truly have no clue about these issues.
 
#90
#90
getting rid of a language is inherently racist, though. it serves no purpose other than people don't like to see spanish written under an english document.
 
#91
#91
Cash Vallin said:
thanks for proving a point.... your way or no way... nope, you have to go with the status quo...

and how does having spanish under an english document make it any less inconvenient for citizens??? IT DOESN'T unless you want it to. I deal with the same stuff, yet, somehow I'm not bothered by it. The second you realize everybody aint like you, the better off you will be.

More than likely, though, there's ZERO diversity in your life so you truly have no clue about these issues.
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That doesn't. However, trying to do business with someone who doesn't speak English is a major pain. My Spanish is good enough that I'm not concerned about myself, and it will probably be beneficial to me in future employment. However, there is no downside to an official English language.
 
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#92
volinbham said:
Tolerance is a broad term. Suggesting that english only advocates are bigots or racist is an intolerant position in and of itself since it ignores the potential for an honest position on an issue; a position that is rooted in other viewpoints than racism or bigotry.

This is the irony - the tolerance advocates often resort to stereotyping or at a minimum a failure to appreciate opposing viewpoints as legitimate.
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okay, I admit I am intolerant of racist redneck douchebags who have never stepped foot out of Alabama or across the mason dixon line. Sue me.
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#93
#93
Cash Vallin said:
thanks for proving a point.... your way or no way... nope, you have to go with the status quo...

and how does having spanish under an english document make it any less inconvenient for citizens??? IT DOESN'T unless you want it to. I deal with the same stuff, yet, somehow I'm not bothered by it. The second you realize everybody aint like you, the better off you will be.

More than likely, though, there's ZERO diversity in your life so you truly have no clue about these issues.
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you are a walking contradiction - congrats
 
#95
#95
Cash Vallin said:
getting rid of a language is inherently racist, though. it serves no purpose other than people don't like to see spanish written under an english document.
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How so? I think the US should be an English speaking country, and I have no problem with latinos, at all. I have a problem with illegal immigrants, and people who move to a 200 year old country and try to change it.
 
#96
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tvolsfan said:
That doesn't. However, trying to do business with someone who doesn't speak English is a major pain. My Spanish is good enough that I'm not concerned about myself, and it will probably be beneficial to me in future employment. However, there is no downside to an official English language.
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get over it..... don't like it, don't do business with him
 
#97
#97
Vols520 said:
okay, I admit I am intolerant of racist redneck douchebags who have never stepped foot out of Alabama or across the mason dixon line. Sue me.
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Congratulations. Just carry that message to someone who cares or fits the label.
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#99
#99
Vols520 said:
okay, I admit I am intolerant of racist redneck douchebags who have never stepped foot out of Alabama or across the mason dixon line. Sue me.
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sarcastic but it proves the point on many levels - if someone doesn't believe as you do they are deficient on any number of levels.

Hooray for tolerance.
 
#100
#100
tvolsfan said:
How so? I think the US should be an English speaking country, and I have no problem with latinos, at all. I have a problem with illegal immigrants, and people who move to a 200 year old country and try to change it.
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because a language is a part of a culture... all of a sudden you're telling these people they can't bring their culture to the business world...
 
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