Thompson Lobbied For Abortion Group After All

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#101
hatvol96 said:
Yes, viablity. The standard always used by busybody religious halfwits in an attempt to legislate something that is abjectly none of their business. Your concern for the unborn touches me. Well, not really. i'm actually laughing at religiuos simpletons like you as society slowly and surely rejects your archaic values in favor of the exaltation of the individual.
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At which point God left the Romans, and their empire also crumbled.
 
#102
#102
hatvol96 said:
What you have called for is legislation placing a generally accepted modern medical practice on the same legal level as the acts of Ted Bundy or John Wayne Gacy.
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I brought up the point of a woman 8 months pregnant not being allowed to have an abortion. Am I missing something? Abortions at 8 months are common medical practice? You posting from Qingdao, Beijing, or Huangpu?
 
#104
#104
allvol123 said:
I brought up the point of a woman 8 months pregnant not being allowed to have an abortion. Am I missing something? Abortions at 8 months are common medical practice? You posting from Qingdao, Beijing, or Huangpu?
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I'm talking abortion in general. If one wants to quibble around the edges, I really don't care. I leave the specifics to the medical professionals.
 
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#106
hatvol96 said:
Their empire crumbled because tougher armies started kicking their a$$es after their society became soft.
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Said softness the result of generations of moral decay, and God handed them over to the armies. Much like he is slowly handing us over to Islam.
 
#107
#107
You terming life begins at birth, is hardly "quibbling around the edges". It is about as non-sensical as it gets.
 
#108
#108
GVF said:
Said softness the result of generations of moral decay, and God handed them over to the armies. Much like he is slowly handing us over to Islam.
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Yeah, that's what it was. Also, the Tooth Fairy toppled the Vikings, the Huns were taken out by Peter Pan, and the British Empire collapsed because it fell out of favor with Mighty Mouse.
 
#109
#109
allvol123 said:
You terming life begins at birth, is hardly "quibbling around the edges". It is about as non-sensical as it gets.
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You call it nonsensical, yet the vast majority of the world uses exactly that as the starting point in measuring one's life.
 
#110
#110
GVF said:
Said softness the result of generations of moral decay, and God handed them over to the armies. Much like he is slowly handing us over to Islam.
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I will say that I am a card carrying Southern Baptist, but that is just odd.

:yes:
 
#111
#111
Where's Pat Robertson when you need him? Or Jerry Falwell? Oh, sorry. Jerry's elsewhere....I won't dare to venture a guess....
 
#112
#112
hatvol96 said:
You call it nonsensical, yet the vast majority of the world uses exactly that as the starting point in measuring one's life.
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So you are into what the vast majority of the world does? This is how things are identified as correct or incorrect? Like as in how the vast majority of the world is a member of organized religion?
 
#113
#113
Yeah, every one but Southern Baptists were the cause of 9/11.

It will make you wonder what people are thinking and believing.
 
#114
#114
allvol123 said:
So you are into what the vast majority of the world does? This is how things are identified as correct or incorrect? Like as in how the vast majority of the world is a member of organized religion?
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Given that most Africans and Chinese are not members of an organized religion, I question your statistics. Also, since there is no overriding, consensus religion, I consider religious affiliation every bit as important as one's favorite color. There is a monumental difference between belief and accepted fact. When birth and death certificates, tombstones, and other public records measuring the length of one's life start listing something other than birthdates, I'll rethink my position.
 
#115
#115
OK. Government and public records are your standards for determining existence of life. That is enough for me.
 
#116
#116
allvol123 said:
OK. Government and public records are your standards for determining existence of life. That is enough for me.
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No, I'm simply saying I agree with the standard they use to measure the beginning of life. Kind of like how I agree with the current definition of murder. If the government decides to start measuring life at conception or viability, it won't change what I believe the appropriate standard of measure should be.
 
#117
#117
Scientifically speaking, what begins life to you? I mean the actual birth, this is life, once this happens?
 
#119
#119
allvol123 said:
Scientifically speaking, what begins life to you? I mean the actual birth, this is life, once this happens?
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I couldn't care less about the science of the issue. You're trying to criminalize abortion. That leads me to think about what makes sense as a starting point for the legal definition of life. A scientific defintion neither interests nor matters to me.
 
#120
#120
hatvol96 said:
I couldn't care less about the science of the issue. You're trying to criminalize abortion. That leads me to think about what makes sense as a starting point for the legal definition of life. A scientific defintion neither interests nor matters to me.
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OK then a legal definition. When birth happens, this is the legal definition you want for the start of life?
 
#122
#122
OrangeEmpire said:
I will say that I am a card carrying Southern Baptist, but that is just odd.

:yes:
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Really? And where did Israel go, when they left Him. Why, biblically, will there never be peace in that region amongst the sects, as prophesied by God. Has there been peace, really? Ever? Over there? Show me a historical society elevated to power by religious loyalty, christianity, catholocism, Godly blessings, however you wish to term it, that continued in that level of power and good fortune after they began to abandon said convictions and yielded to decay. Historically speaking, we are the next Roman Empire. When the early Jews were obediant, they received power, and defeated vast armies with few men. When they were disobedient, they became slaves. Whether you intepret history biblically, or secularly, all societies that decayed from whatever form of belief was their building block, they went away by one means or another.
 
#125
#125
Just don't see your view. I am not some Bible thumper as you call them. I am very religious but don't ever try to push my religion on other people. Yes, people have privacy rights and I am all for those as well. But, there is no way I can ignore that another person is involved in this matter regardless of the fact that they cannot represent themself.
 
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