Today's GOP Not The Party of Lincoln

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hog88 said:
Nome of those races matter because regardless of whether the R or D won the same person took the office. That’s your blind spot, there is no difference between establishment Rs and Ds.
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The difference between to the two is who they pander to and who gets screwed by their agendas
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
Lol “we want better and decent people to lead us” sure did dissolve to “what does it matter everyone does it” 😂😂😂
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What? If a candidate has something in their past they are trying to hide, I think we are better off knowing.
 
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luthervol said:
The whole attempting to overturn a free and fair national election is so passé.
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Dems screeching to high heaven about things y’all have already done numerous times once the Republicans finally do the same things are boring conversations. Gander and goose is the way I see it and the right is nowhere near to catching up with y’all yet.
 
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DynaLo said:
Dems screeching to high heaven about things y’all have already done numerous times once the Republicans finally do the same things are boring conversations. Gander and goose is the way I see it and the right is nowhere near to catching up with y’all yet.
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Sorry, you can say things like this all you want to... but there is no known precedent for a sitting American President attempting to use his political influence to coerce a state-level election official, such as Georgia's Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger, into helping him overturn his own re-election defeat. This crossed a line, and can't be allowed to become acceptable conduct, or it will endanger the democratic system of elections in this country.

There is simply no way that Republicans in Congress would approve of this conduct from a Democrat. Nor would Republicans ever try to argue that a Vice President from the Democratic Party had the unilateral authority under the Constitution to cast aside electoral votes, in effort to obtain votes from a different set of electors, more favorable to their own ticket. That is not democracy.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Sorry, you can say things like this all you want to... but there is no known precedent for a sitting American President attempting to use his political influence to coerce a state-level election official, such as Georgia's Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger, into helping him overturn his own re-election defeat. This crossed a line, and can't be allowed to become acceptable conduct, or it will endanger the democratic system of elections in this country.

There is simply no way that Republicans in Congress would approve of this conduct from a Democrat. Nor would Republicans ever try to argue that a Vice President from the Democratic Party had the unilateral authority under the Constitution to cast aside electoral votes, in effort to obtain votes from a different set of electors, more favorable to their own ticket. That is not democracy.
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The entire Russian collusion and impeachment x2 says your willfully ignorant
 
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tim said:
Ever notice the projection from the D’s?
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I notice that Republicans almost always reply to criticism by attacking a Democrat or Democrats. Very few will ever say, "yes, we have this problem and need to do something about it." Most Republicans attack the few who do speak honestly, by calling them RINOs. They are forever willing to think something bad about somebody they do not like. Whether its half true or a totally ridiculous lie does not matter. If it is something bad about somebody else, they believe it. Of course they fancy themselves as good people, but good people don't act like that.
 
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Vol Main said:
I notice that Republicans almost always reply to criticism by attacking a Democrat or Democrats. Very few will ever say, "yes, we have this problem and need to do something about it." Most Republicans attack the few who do speak honestly, by calling them RINOs. They are forever willing to think something bad about somebody they do not like. Whether its half true or a totally ridiculous lie does not matter. If it is something bad about somebody else, they believe it. Of course they fancy themselves as good people, but good people don't act like that.
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You don’t believe Dems act this way as well?
 
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I notice that Democrats almost always reply to criticism by playing the role of victim. There has to be some deep seeded hate in play, otherwise how could anyone explain the fact that someone may not agree with the Democrat view?. Very few will ever say, "yes, we have this problem and need to do something about it." Most Democrats attack the few who do speak honestly, by calling them racist, sexist, homophobic, transphobic, white supremacist etc. They are forever willing to think something bad about somebody they do not like and take to social media to cancel that person because that person does not deserve to live. The truth doesn’t matter, just how the truth makes them feel. Of course they fancy themselves as the best people, the moral standard for all of humanity, but in reality they are a death cult that no one should follow.


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Rickyvol77 said:
You don’t believe Dems act this way as well?
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In the days leading up to the January 6th formal certification, there were members of the Republican Party, who were arguing that Mike Pence had the authority as Vice President to send votes from electors in swing-states that he and Trump had lost, back to their Republican-controlled state legislatures, so that a different, hand-picked set of electors could be chosen. Under this scheme, these new sets of electors would disregard the popular vote in their states and cast their votes for the ticket of Trump and Pence instead. Thus, granting then-Vice President Pence the power to overturn his own re-election defeat.

I have 2 questions for you :

(1) Do you believe that those same Republicans (such as Sen. Josh Hawley from Missouri), will be in favor of Kamala Harris having that much control over her own re-election fate in January of 2025?

(2) Can you provide a specific example of Democrats ever arguing that the Vice President had such self-serving power under the United States Constitution?

* This was not the same thing as the "faithless elector" scenario mentioned earlier. This involved much more than that. This was an attempt by Republicans to grant the Vice President the power to hand-pick his own electors, who have already pledged their votes to him.

I can't think of a more significant conflict of interest than that... or anything which sounds less democratic. It blows my mind that some of you don't see a problem with this, and there isn't a "what-about-ism" card to be played here. This was an unprecedented effort by Trump and his Republican minions.
 
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VOLS INC. said:
I notice that Democrats almost always reply to criticism by playing the role of victim. There has to be some deep seeded hate in play, otherwise how could anyone explain the fact that someone may not agree with the Democrat view?. Very few will ever say, "yes, we have this problem and need to do something about it." Most Democrats attack the few who do speak honestly, by calling them racist, sexist, homophobic, transphobic, white supremacist etc. They are forever willing to think something bad about somebody they do not like and take to social media to cancel that person because that person does not deserve to live. The truth doesn’t matter, just how the truth makes them feel. Of course they fancy themselves as the best people, the moral standard for all of humanity, but in reality they are a death cult that no one should follow.


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LOL! Remind me again which party habitually whines about :

(1) Rigged elections (only the ones they lose, of course).

(2) The bias of the "mainstream media."

(3) The bias of big-tech algorithms.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
LOL! Remind me again which party habitually whines about :

(1) Rigged elections (only the ones they lose, of course).

(2) The bias of the "mainstream media."

(3) The bias of big-tech algorithms.
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I simply can’t believe you are challenging my beliefs. I don’t know how you self-identify, but your white supremacy is showing nonetheless. I am reporting your post and sincerely hope you check your privilege and start being an advocate for change.


Silence is Violence!




Man, this Democrat thing is fun 😉
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
LOL! Remind me again which party habitually whines about :

(1) Rigged elections (only the ones they lose, of course).

(2) The bias of the "mainstream media."

(3) The bias of big-tech algorithms.
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All you have are silly straw man arguments that most people rarely if ever talk about. The difference is the Democrat party openly tries to implement and does implement their destructive agenda for America but you don’t possess the capability of independent thought. I get it for you and Luther. You need someone to tell you what to do and how to think
 
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landscapingvol said:
All you have are silly straw man arguments that most people rarely if ever talk about. The difference is the Democrat party openly tries to implement and does implement their destructive agenda for America but you don’t possess the capability of independent thought. I get it for you and Luther. You need someone to tell you what to do and how to think
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Oh, really?

Is Donald Trump a "straw man"? Because whenever criticized, Trump will always portray himself as the victim of mainstream media bias. Trump has also made it clear that there isn't a set of conditions under which he could ever lose an election, without completely attributing his defeat to fraud. Even when Ted Cruz won the Iowa Caucuses during the 2016 Republican Party Primary, Trump accused the Cruz campaign of cheating (without ever saying how they had cheated). Trump embraces victimhood, like a security blanket.

As far as big-tech algorithms are concerned? We have a whole thread of it here... with the conservative members doing all of the whining.
 
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I never even brought up Trump, didn’t vote for him. You continue to prove my point repeating the same tired mantras. You are like a broken record repeating the same bs. I didn’t realize a thread on here was the same as pushing a destructive agenda at the state and national level?
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
It is amazing how different the descriptions of the protests are depending upon which side of the fence you fall on.
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There were well over 10,000 people in DC at multiple rallies/stages that day. How many ended up on the Capitol grounds? Several hundred? Less than 5% partook in the excessiveness.
 
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