Trade Deadline/Rumors thread

#104
#104
Escape Goat said:
With his last start against them being the exception, Ubaldo usually shuts down the anemic Braves offense. I just can't see Ubaldo being anything higher than a #3 guy for any team with decent pitching.
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He would easily be the number 2 guy in NY...and for a lot of teams
 
#105
#105
Tampa Bay is the most well run organization in baseball, I would say.

And there really is zero reason for them to trade Shields, unless someone offers something absolutely retarded.
 
#106
#106
Dbake005 said:
Tampa Bay is the most well run organization in baseball, I would say.

And there really is zero reason for them to trade Shields, unless someone offers something absolutely retarded.
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Just going off what Olney said. They were "listening" for offers.
 
#107
#107
zjcvols said:
Just going off what Olney said. They were "listening" for offers.
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Oh i know. He is one that teams would want. I just don't know if he's as available as everyone thinks/thought at the start of the year.
 
#113
#113
vols kick balls said:
The Reds are going to end up way overpaying for a starter. They are trying to go after every starter that is mentioned.
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Sam LeCure just keeps getting people out. The Reds organization keeps acting as if that's not happening. It's amazing how little regard Jocketty and Co. put on their own players.
 
#115
#115
hatvol96 said:
Sam LeCure just keeps getting people out. The Reds organization keeps acting as if that's not happening. It's amazing how little regard Jocketty and Co. put on their own players.
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I like Lecure and he has done a hell of a job, but I don't think he's the answer to our woes.
 
#116
#116
vols kick balls said:
I like Lecure and he has done a hell of a job, but I don't think he's the answer to our woes.
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He'd do every bit as well as guys like Guthrie and Kuroda and costs you less money and no prospects. Guthrie doesn't suck because he's on a bad team, he sucks because he sucks.
 
#117
#117
Here's my question Reds fans:

Do you think you are "true contenders" this year?

You have a young team. I felt last year (while you guys were a heck of a ball team), I thought you overachieved and played in a semi-weak division.

You have almost no chance at the WC. And the Brewers/Cards will make moves to.

You guys sound like you need more than one piece to become serious threats.

So, you guys have a problem moving some of the farm to try and get the playoffs? Even if you do, I can't imagine you as WS threats.
 
#118
#118
A panic move to overpay for a guy would actually set the organization and future back a little bit.
 
#119
#119
zjcvols said:
Here's my question Reds fans:

Do you think you are "true contenders" this year?

You have a young team. I felt last year (while you guys were a heck of a ball team), I thought you overachieved and played in a semi-weak division.

You have almost no chance at the WC. And the Brewers/Cards will make moves to.

You guys sound like you need more than one piece to become serious threats.

So, you guys have a problem moving some of the farm to try and get the playoffs? Even if you do, I can't imagine you as WS threats.
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Exactly what moves are the Brewers and Cardinals going to make? Milwaukee has already cleaned out their system of prospects and St. Louis doesn't have the depth to get anything of real value.
 
#120
#120
Dbake005 said:
A panic move to overpay for a guy would actually set the organization and future back a little bit.
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That's what I was thinking.

I mean, getting Ubaldo is a little different, because he's under contract for a couple more years.

But paying for a left fielder, or a Kuroda/Guthrie, IDK.
 
#122
#122
hatvol96 said:
Exactly what moves are the Brewers and Cardinals going to make? Milwaukee has already cleaned out their system of prospects and St. Louis doesn't have the depth to get anything of real value.
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The Cards could get quite a haul for Rasmus. The Brewers might make a small upgrade at short (Jamey Carroll).

What you think Hat? You're the GM of the Reds. What's your plan?
 
#123
#123
The Reds are in as good of a position as anyone to make a move as the have a lot of duplicate parts in the minors. Alonso is blocked by Votto. We have two of the top 5 catching prospects in baseball. We have Wood/Leake/Bailey. Then we have guys like Juan Francisco and Todd Frazier who aren't great prospects but they have nothing left to prove in the minors but can't get into the Reds lineup. Making a trade for a big time starter will not set the team back in anyway unless the starter is a rental and I don't think anyone the Reds have been looking at are.
 
#124
#124
vols kick balls said:
The Reds are in as good of a position as anyone to make a move as the have a lot of duplicate parts in the minors. Alonso is blocked by Votto. We have two of the top 5 catching prospects in baseball. We have Wood/Leake/Bailey. Then we have guys like Juan Francisco and Todd Frazier who aren't great prospects but they have nothing left to prove in the minors but can't get into the Reds lineup. Making a trade for a big time starter will not set the team back in anyway unless the starter is a rental and I don't think anyone the Reds have been looking at are.
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YOu want Ubaldo?
 
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