Tyler Bray still undrafted (merged)

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Besides if being dumb kept people out of the NFL over half the ones picked wouldn't have been.

Manti T'eo for one...
 
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You know, let me defend bray a little bit because these scouts are full of crap.

What do scouts look for most?

Size, arm, pro system.

All those check out with bray.

Toughness, leadership, and all the other intangibles should not make any player fall this far.

There are only so many players who are physically gifted that you take a chance on the intangibles coming around.

Jimmy clausen and Tim tebow went in the first two rounds for crying out loud
 
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Hayezb said:
How did he implode?

Pretty sure you meant to say "I didn't know the defense was going to implode during the past season either".

Had that not happened, Bray would have been gone in the 1-2 rounds.
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Now this is where the problem for me is. You really believe that NFL scouts care about whether our defense was bad? He wasn't ready. Count how many kids have been drafted that were on teams that weren't very good. Our defense had absolutely nothing to do with his draft stock.
 
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And the same goes for Rogers.

How many wr have his physical ability.

Is he honestly not worth the gamble at this point?

Really?
 
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VolMaster14 said:
Even though Tyler used the new offense as an excuse, he would still be here if CP and or Hunter had returned.
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I think that , mostly, he made up his mind who he was going to before the ball was even snapped. I have seen force way too many throws with predictable results. I dont think he will be able to stick with a NFL team, A cannon arm with a water-pistol brain aint gonna cut the mustard at this level. He looks like Arena league guy to me.
 
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Are we really going to blame it on his parents? He has his own brain. It's not like they left him on dooleys doorstep wrapped in a navajo blanket and stuffed in a picnic basket! LOL! They seem to have provided quite well for him.
 
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1972 Grad said:
I put forth more effort every day in my business than Bray ever has. I am almost certain that he threw 2 games while he was at my alma mater.....the Kentucky game in 2011 because he and Da'Rick wanted to hang up the cleats instead of practicing for a bowl game, and Vandy in 2012 because he wanted to get Dooley fired. To me, those are not forgivable. He was more interested in himself than in his teammates.
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You aren't 100% certain of any of that. It is pure speculation and to argue otherwise is moronic.

If he doesn't make it in the NFL I'm not going to lose any sleep, but I'm sure not going to sit behind a computer screen and bash a kid that provided me and my family with a few, not many, but a few good afternoons.
 
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99gator said:
You know, let me defend bray a little bit because these scouts are full of crap.

What do scouts look for most?

Size, arm, pro system.

All those check out with bray.

Toughness, leadership, and all the other intangibles should not make any player fall this far.

There are only so many players who are physically gifted that you take a chance on the intangibles coming around.

Jimmy clausen and Tim tebow went in the first two rounds for crying out loud
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as much as i hated both those guys and hate the stigma attached to the stereotype, they were both winners. even if it wasnt all brays fault, he never beat a quality team. dont get me wrong, im a huge bray supporter and hope my bengals snag him in 7 but i see why he's fallen and it pains me to think what could have been. i hate to see someone with that much potential far so far..
 
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Hayezb said:
Wasn't that his first game back from a broken thumb and didn't the program report he had 100+ degree fever from the flu?
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Actually, it was his second game back after the broken thumb. Against Vandy the week before , he was 16-33 , 2 tds and 2 ints. Against Kentucky, the next week, he was 15-38 with 1 td and 2 ints. Tennessee lost 10-7.

On his last 3 possessions, Bray moved the team to one first down and threw 2 ints. That is about as inept as he was at the finish against Missouri this past year, when Dooley chose to punt , rather than take a shot.
 
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VolunteerTitan3 said:
Are we really going to blame it on his parents? He has his own brain. It's not like they left him on dooleys doorstep wrapped in a navajo blanket and stuffed in a picnic basket! LOL! They seem to have provided quite well for him.
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Racist imo.... bray is part native american!!! :no:
 
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99gator said:
You know, let me defend bray a little bit because these scouts are full of crap.

What do scouts look for most?

Size, arm, pro system.

All those check out with bray.

Toughness, leadership, and all the other intangibles should not make any player fall this far.

There are only so many players who are physically gifted that you take a chance on the intangibles coming around.

Jimmy clausen and Tim tebow went in the first two rounds for crying out loud
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I think there's something we simply don't know about both Tyler Bray and Da'rick Rogers. It makes zero sense for either to have fallen like this let alone both of them.
 
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