Tyler Summitt resigns

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yoyoyoyo said:
You are describing a quid pro quo (trading sex playing time) not a victim situation.
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Could it also be a case of trading sex for a full scholarship at LA Tech? What would be the value? $25-30k/year? The problem with that scenario is that Tyler wasn't paying her with his money. He was using the university's money for his personal benefit. Was the university a victim in this case?

Another scenario could be the added playing time she was getting in exchange for sex. If she was getting extra playing time for sex, it meant fewer minutes for all the other players who weren't sleeping with him. Were those young ladies victims of his relationship as well?

A lot of people (and the university) were affected negatively by Tyler's behavior, including his mother. But mostly I feel for the young lady involved because Tyler should have known better. And yes, I place full blame for the Monica Lewinsky scandal on Bill Clinton, not the impressionable young intern.
 
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Now some are saying he got the player pregnant???? Wow you always make sure she is on the pill or you wrap it up man!!! Tyler will learn a valuable lesson from this no doubt
 
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Hoya Saxa said:
Could it also be a case of trading sex for a full scholarship at LA Tech? What would be the value? $25-30k/year? The problem with that scenario is that Tyler wasn't paying her with his money. He was using the university's money for his personal benefit. Was the university a victim in this case?

Another scenario could be the added playing time she was getting in exchange for sex. If she was getting extra playing time for sex, it meant fewer minutes for all the other players who weren't sleeping with him. Were those young ladies victims of his relationship as well?

A lot of people (and the university) were affected negatively by Tyler's behavior, including his mother. But mostly I feel for the young lady involved because Tyler should have known better. And yes, I place full blame for the Monica Lewinsky scandal on Bill Clinton, not the impressionable young intern.
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You are all over the place. It's impossible to respond.
 
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Hoya Saxa said:
Yes! Their ages and genders are irrelevant. The issue is that Tyler was in a position of authority and the young lady was his subordinate. Without the words ever being spoken, in situations such as this it is implied that if you want to play, you will submit. If you submit, good things will happen for you on my team. The young lady cannot make an impartial decision about the relationship because there will always be issues of power and privilege involved. This is a very different issue from a married man/woman meeting a girl/guy at a bar and deciding to have a fling. Because of the underlying issues of power and authority, such relationships are forbidden in most schools, universities, workplaces, professions, military, etc.
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Exactly. You get it. Lots of folks here want to give him a pass because of a) his last name and they think he is royalty, b) he is a "christian" so all will be forgiven as we are in the bible belt and no one can judge but god, and of course c) they were close in age.

As far as the age thing, no different than a CEO asking his secretary for some "extra attention", even though they are both 40.
 
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Hoya Saxa said:
How (not why) do you think she ended up at LA Tech? Did she drive there on her own dime to stalk him? Who do you think offered her a full scholarship to relocate to LA Tech to be with him?
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Was there something wrong with her scholarship at Marquette?

As others have said, there's a lot of unknowns here as to the nature of their relationship. However, if she willingly followed him to LA Tech from Marquette, chances are she was a willing participant in a consensual relationship.

In any event, his career as a HS or NCAA women's bball coach is D-U-N, done, and he has no one to blame but himself. This is the sort of thing that isn't forgiven...nor should it be.
 
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gule said:
All those Bible quotations Tyler spouted everyday, Good Greif, could this get any sadder?

The Power of the Little Head rules supreme.
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Christians are no different than any other person in regards to the ability to sin. We all fall short of the glory of God.

Is this his green light to sin? No.
Should he have known better? Yes. Is his religion to blame for his misstep? No.
 
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Oh guys this could get even uglier.....I hope no one does anything stupid.....There is a lot of pain in their lives.....So very sorry to hear all of this.
 
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Doesn't really matter about consensual, who started what or who stalked whom and what the age of consent is or whether they are both 'adults'. A college takes on a certain level or responsibility for the students that enroll - not quite in loco parentis but fairly close, and that responsibility includes ensuring that their employees are not behaving inappropriately with their students. And most employees of universities sign contracts that specifically proscribe inappropriate behaviors with students. Coaches and teachers specifically are in positions of authority over their students and players that make any relationship between them unbalanced regardless of consent or initiator. It is the same type of situation that is codified in medical ethics relative to doctor/patient relationships - there can be no 'consent' because there is no way of determining if it is given freely or is being coerced.

And it is exactly the same reason that their are laws regarding statutory rape - society has determined that up until a certain age a person is not mature enough so 'consent' is not possible.

You may bridle at the use of the term 'victim' but there is an assumption that someone who attains the level of head coach has a level of maturity whatever his or her age that they will recognize that their position is one that carries the responsibility to act appropriately in this situation and will recognize that 'consent' has no meaning and is no defense for not acting appropriately.

And I agree with others - adultery is a fact of life and it appears that professed religious belief has little effect on whether it occurs or not, only on whether or not one is able to seek forgiveness from an all forgiving god. I don't condemn the huge portion of married people who have committed adultery, but I do condemn those who have whether or not they are married abused positions of responsibility or power to engage in inappropriate relationships with those placed in their care or under their authority.
 
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k-town_king said:
Calm down. We don't live in ancient Sumeria.



Thats what happens when you give a 20 something year old kid a job he is not qualified for due to his last name. Some dummies actually wanted him here as our coach. We dodged a bullet.
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The "like" limit should be suspended for this post. A work of art in only a couple of sentences.
 
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UCMiami said:
Doesn't really matter about consensual, who started what or who stalked whom and what the age of consent is or whether they are both 'adults'. A college takes on a certain level or responsibility for the students that enroll - not quite in loco parentis but fairly close, and that responsibility includes ensuring that their employees are not behaving inappropriately with their students. And most employees of universities sign contracts that specifically proscribe inappropriate behaviors with students. Coaches and teachers specifically are in positions of authority over their students and players that make any relationship between them unbalanced regardless of consent or initiator. It is the same type of situation that is codified in medical ethics relative to doctor/patient relationships - there can be no 'consent' because there is no way of determining if it is given freely or is being coerced.

And it is exactly the same reason that their are laws regarding statutory rape - society has determined that up until a certain age a person is not mature enough so 'consent' is not possible.

You may bridle at the use of the term 'victim' but there is an assumption that someone who attains the level of head coach has a level of maturity whatever his or her age that they will recognize that their position is one that carries the responsibility to act appropriately in this situation and will recognize that 'consent' has no meaning and is no defense for not acting appropriately.

And I agree with others - adultery is a fact of life and it appears that professed religious belief has little effect on whether it occurs or not, only on whether or not one is able to seek forgiveness from an all forgiving god. I don't condemn the huge portion of married people who have committed adultery, but I do condemn those who have whether or not they are married abused positions of responsibility or power to engage in inappropriate relationships with those placed in their care or under their authority.
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Nice. Now, didn't we have a President a while back that went here? What happened there?
 
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Hoya Saxa said:
How (not why) do you think she ended up at LA Tech? Did she drive there on her own dime to stalk him? Who do you think offered her a full scholarship to relocate to LA Tech to be with him?
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Or she could've stayed at Marquette where she would've still had a scholarship under another coach....

Tyler couldn't make her come to La Tech.
 
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VolPack22 said:
This is why men should not coach women and vice versa. I may be in the minority but I'm surprised we don't hear more of stuff like this happening. If men and women were suppose to play sports together then there wouldn't be separate men's and women's athletics. Take the Olympics for instance. They all hook up at the Olympic Village. Could you imagine that 24/7? There would be sexual lawsuits out the a$$.
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That's a bit of an overreaction in the wrong direction. There is nothing wrong with the opposite sex being a coach of a team. There are thousands of coaches who do it without a problem. Heck, there are thousands of young teachers who teach high school. In this case, I think they just gave him his own team at too young of an age. It could be that he would have done this in his 30's or 40's, but most people mature and resist any temptation.
 
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This is quite a story and it will be interesting to see if Tyler Summitt's marriage can hold up after this revelation.
 
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VolnJC said:
I think the lesson is don't hire someone with bad character age has nothing to do with it.
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It can have something to do with it as far as maturation is concerned. I think most of us would agree that we are/were more mature at 33 than at 23. Certainly there is more temptation as a 23 year old because your players are almost your peers. Does it mean that he wouldn't do the same at 33? No, but I think it's less likely.
 
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La.Tech was stupid to hire him in the first place. He wasn't qualified to be a head coach--two years as an assistant is not even close to enough experience to take over ANY program, much less a proud one like LaTech. He was, what, 23? Desperate move that backfired. And now Summitt may have ruined his career. Who's going to hire a guy who had an affair with a player? That is a MAJOR no-no--utterly stupid on his part. And it means that all the diehards can forget about this kid coaching at Tennessee, at least for quite a long time.
 
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