UAB game discussion

Originally posted by Blazer85@Aug 7, 2005 4:14 PM
Wow... and you guys are different from the Bammers how?  Yeah right.  So much for the classy fans.  Nothing I have said is anything but facts.  Facts about UAB or facts about UT.  That's not smack talk or whatever the crap you'd like to think.  If the facts offend you, then I'm sorry, but just about everything I've stated is either fact or MY opinion which I am entitled to just as much as you are yours.  I'll wait for the intelligent, classy UT fans to discuss this game with.  You others that want to write UAB off as a quick, easy win, go about your lives and dont bother with the thread since youre so sure of yourselves.
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Blzer, not sure what this post is in reference to? I didn't see anyone flaming you (I could have missed it). Just good football talk. You are most definitely entitled to your opinion but you don't expect us to agree do you? :rolleyes:

In my post above I pointed out UAB's strength of schedule compared to the SEC. I showed you how UAB lost to the #116 rated team by 25 at home. I pointed out how you guys haven't won more than 7 games in 12 years, even in a weak conference. Those are my facts. I am not sure what facts of yours that you are referring to. When you say that UAB's offense is one of the best in the SEC you are going to have to bring some facts to back up an absurd statement like that.

We have all agreed that Hackney is a nice player and probably has a couple of decent receivers around him. I even admitted that he would probably throw for some yards against us. But that's about as far as I am willing to go. I don't know what more you expect. I am not even sure what this discussion has turned into. I don't even know where you are going with your arguement. Do you expect us to all agree with you and say that a CUSA team is going to come into our house and beat us? Please. If you want to start comparing people to Bammers then I would have to say that you are almost as dilusional as Bammers if you really believe that.

Can we please get back to discussing the game. :peace2:
 
*cough* hypocrite *cough*

u say were gettin pissy because u offer facts against us but when we offer facts to u, u have no response. maybe ur just mad because noone outside of uab thinks that u will win. im not gonna praise uab just because we are playing them. yeah, points were given up last year. heres another fact for u though.....this isnt last year and nothing that happened last year will change what happens this year. u can rest ur loins on how great u were last year and how "bad" we were last year, but that wont change the outcome of this game
 
You others that want to write UAB off as a quick, easy win, go about your lives and dont bother with the thread since youre so sure of yourselves.


Blazer this is a Tennessee board and I think most of us expect to win the game so I am not sure I would be telling people to aviod the thread if they don't agree with you. You posted it yourself the line on the game is 22.5. So again, I really don't know what your beef is.
 
Well Back to the game. How do you thik Ainge will do aginst uab this year?
 
i also think its kind of funny that u are in some way trying to compare some 2nd rate db from miss state to an all american dt in jesse mahelona. just because hack can stiff arm a db, doesnt mean he can accomplish the same feat against big mahe. if he does, i will be in awe, but i doubt ill see that.
 
i say ainge will go for 200-300 depending on how much clausen plays. he will throw for 2-4 tds. uab will come away with a new respect for him. most uab fans seem to be in a daze over hackney and think that any other qb other than him is a junky. personally, i think ainge will have the better game.
 
Nope... I actually NEVER said yalls defense was like ours. If you can find anywhere I said that and quote me, I'd be glad to see it. I acknowledged LONG ago that your defense is much better. Our defense is nowhere near UT's level, but I know two things. One, our front 7 is quite good (not UT good, but good all the same). Secondly, our secondary will be much improved this year. No, I dont expect you all to agree that UAB will win, but I would expect some of you to not take the game so lightly. Be honest... I know some of you would already be thinking and talking about Florida and LSU if I wasnt here talking about UAB. I dont get pissy when people talk facts about UAB, but if your whole argument is UT is #3 and that youre in the SEC, then I think that's pretty silly. Remember the year Bama started out #3 and then proceeded to go 3-8 that year. Not saying that will happen to UT because I think UT has a very good shot to win the SEC, but let's not pretend that because the "experts" say it's so that it necessarily is. Again, I dont expect many people on a UT board to say UAB will win... what do I expect? I expect some people to make an argument based on something besides UAB being "midmajor" or the fact we're in CUSA. I also expect people to not blow off the game, but you know... I guess I should be glad. Maybe the attitude of some people on here is an indication of how some of the players will be feeling about this game.
 
Ok see this i can understand. But you say that your Db's will be much improved but when we say that about ours you just write it off and keep bringing up kentucky and vandy. that is what i dont understand about you.
 
Originally posted by vols2345@Aug 7, 2005 3:01 PM
Ok see this i can understand.  But you say that your Db's will be much improved but when we say that about ours you just write it off and keep bringing up kentucky and vandy.  that is what i dont understand about you.
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No no... you misunderstood then. I know your secondary will be improved, but to say that all of a sudden it's going to become an unstoppable secondary is what I disagree with. We certainly wont have an unstoppable secondary... I'm just hoping we're improved even a little bit from last year. But no, I didnt say(or didnt mean if i did say) that your secondary wont be better, but I also dont think your secondary will be able to completely shut down Hackney.
 
ut was up on vandy like 28-6 and started to doze off and vandy came back. they didnt wanna pile it on and phil was diplomatic and it almost cost us. kentucky had nothing to lose while utk was tight. uts defense wasnt the cause for all of uks points. there was also a returned int. it was alot of points, but there is more reasons than just bad defense.
 
Originally posted by Blazer85@Aug 7, 2005 4:05 PM
No no... you misunderstood then.  I know your secondary will be improved, but to say that all of a sudden it's going to become an unstoppable secondary is what I disagree with.  We certainly wont have an unstoppable secondary... I'm just hoping we're improved even a little bit from last year.  But no, I didnt say(or didnt mean if i did say) that your secondary wont be better, but I also dont think your secondary will be able to completely shut down Hackney.
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we never said anything about it being completly shut down. but our d-line and linebacker groups are going to be. and with them being so good it will take pressure off our db's. And this is why everyone says we will have one of the top defenses in the nation.
 
we have 3 returning all fresh(sec and ncaa) dbs and an all american sr db returning add that to a couple dbs that fulmer say are vastly improved and that could be all sec and we should be covered. of course they have to show it on the field but the talent is there. o yeah, we also had a pretty good secondary recruiting class.
 
UT's front 7 is definitely one of the best, but we'll all just have to see how much the secondary improves from a year ago. But this is what I dont understand as much. You guys are more concerned about Memphis and RB DeAngelo, but you have one of the top run Ds in the nation. But yet not worried about UAB's Hackney or stable of WRs when admittedly that was yall's weakest link in the defense last year.

Did anyone see the highlight video that I posted the link to?
 
u dont understand ut/memphis do u? it doesnt matter how lopsided the talent is, it will always be close. whens the last time it was an easy game for ut? a good while, thats for sure. its pride in that game.
 
Memphis probably gives you guys a closer game than Vandy does... I know that. :laugh1: Poor Vandy. But UAB is kind of in a similar situation as Vandy with the pursuit for high academic standards. UAB already has some of the strictest admissions policies in the state, and is thinking of raising the minimum ACT score to 24.

But I do understand rivalries are always close, but I dont think it has to be a rivalry for that to be the case. UAB will be fighting for this games for alot of reasons. Funny thing is... Bammers try to stay they'll start respecting UAB if we beat UT, but when's the last time THEY did that? :laugh1:
 
Originally posted by Blazer85@Aug 7, 2005 5:05 PM
No no... you misunderstood then.  I know your secondary will be improved, but to say that all of a sudden it's going to become an unstoppable secondary is what I disagree with.  We certainly wont have an unstoppable secondary... I'm just hoping we're improved even a little bit from last year.  But no, I didnt say(or didnt mean if i did say) that your secondary wont be better, but I also dont think your secondary will be able to completely shut down Hackney.
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Something else you need to understand here:
1. For both UK and Vandy, UT is their bowl game and winning that game would make their season.
2. Last year UT's secondary was hurting from injuries
3. UT overlooked both UK and Vandy due to the injury of Ainge and the prospects of a rematch with Auburn

The DB's this fall will be helped tremendously this fall due to:
1. Health of DB's
2. influx of top talent at DB
3. an improved front 7
4. The CB's are no longer Freshmen and now have the experience they need.


remember this both Fellows and Hefney were Freshmen All American's last year and Allen is an All American.
You will find that UT's DB's are alot better than you expect
 
and dont forget that we get stewart back. he was also all fresh sec(maybe fresh all american as well) and wade got a year on defense under his belt. campbell had a night and day year from fresh to soph and hopefully he'll go back to the track he was on his fresh year.
 
Well... one comment. Whose year wouldnt it make to beat UT? It certainly would make UAB's season. Heck, that'd be the biggest win in our young history. UAB doesnt get a LOT of chances against the big boys. On average about 1 or 2 BCS teams will play us each year, but often times we'll come up just short or beat a BCS team that's not very good (ie, Miss State, Baylor, etc). The LSU game of 2000 is our signature win for the time being.
 
I think the only way UAB has a shot is to run the football well and keep Utd on the field. Passing fancy-won't work :thumbsup:
 
Originally posted by vol100@Aug 7, 2005 4:16 PM
I think the only way UAB has a shot is to run the football well and keep Utd on the field. Passing fancy-won't work :thumbsup:
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How is that? UT's run defense is much better than their pass defense, and that's not a slam. I would think most Vols would agree with that.
 
Originally posted by Blazer85@Aug 7, 2005 6:18 PM
How is that?  UT's run defense is much better than their pass defense, and that's not a slam.  I would think most Vols would agree with that.
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I do agree with you. I just think the way you beat ANY good team is to run the ball well. We' have watched some great qbs on the hill over the years, but our best years we had a great running game.
 
BTW... someone had asked at some point earlier about UAB's A-back position. I think it's unique to UAB (or at least not common elsewhere). It's more of a RB/WR hybrid which sounds sort of odd to some of you probably, but in his limited play last year, Norris Drinkard (our A-back) performed pretty well. He averaged about 7.5 yards per carry rushing and about 11.5 yards per catch receiving.
 
Originally posted by Blazer85@Aug 7, 2005 6:29 PM
BTW... someone had asked at some point earlier about UAB's A-back position.  I think it's unique to UAB (or at least not common elsewhere).  It's more of a RB/WR hybrid which sounds sort of odd to some of you probably, but in his limited play last year, Norris Drinkard (our A-back) performed pretty well.  He averaged about 7.5 yards per carry rushing and about 11.5 yards per catch receiving.
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Ut used Jason witten in the H-back formation a couple of years ago with great success. It works well (I hate to sound like a broken record) with a strong running game. That playaction gets the oslb's attention.
 

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