UNC and Duke Basketball, 2015-16

#227
#227
The Great Equalizer strikes again.

Carolina has all the potential in the world, but you just aren't going to go far as a team that shoots that poorly from the perimeter.

Bilas made a great comparison to the 2012 game in Chapel Hill a couple of times. I think that's spot on. Of course, if I'm not mistaken, the correlative of that game was UNC then going into Durham and already winning the game by halftime, but I don't see a repeat of that this year. This UNC team doesn't shoot the ball well enough.
 
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AV_12 said:
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It's okay. You can admit it. I told you before the game that Berry wasn't better and Thornton proved it - especially at the end with that swat!

Like I've said time and time again, I fear the day when UNC gets smart and hires a real coach.
 
#229
#229
I'm not taking anything away from Duke, they did what they had to do to win the game. But we should have dominated that game. 20-30 point win. How many times did you look down at the score and say/think, "I can't believe we're only up 4?"

Pathetic coaching. Then Roy gets up in the postgame PC and says "a lot of people say we should have gotten foul called on Joel, but that's just sour grapes." But Roy was the one motioning, twice, that he got hacked just after the clock hit 0:00. I don't post in this thread as much as some of you, but I'm pretty sure you'll find a post or two from me where I've said that I'm just not that big a fan of RW. I didn't like how he seemed so pissed off to be our coach at the introductory PC. K would win a NC with this UNC team.
 
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Chuckie said:
I'm not taking anything away from Duke, they did what they had to do to win the game. But we should have dominated that game. 20-30 point win. How many times did you look down at the score and say/think, "I can't believe we're only up 4?"

Pathetic coaching. Then Roy gets up in the postgame PC and says "a lot of people say we should have gotten foul called on Joel, but that's just sour grapes." But Roy was the one motioning, twice, that he got hacked just after the clock hit 0:00. I don't post in this thread as much as some of you, but I'm pretty sure you'll find a post or two from me where I've said that I'm just not that big a fan of RW. I didn't like how he seemed so pissed off to be our coach at the introductory PC. K would win a NC with this UNC team.
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I don't think I've ever agreed with a UNC fan more than I am right now.
 
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Chuckie said:
I'm not taking anything away from Duke, they did what they had to do to win the game. But we should have dominated that game. 20-30 point win. How many times did you look down at the score and say/think, "I can't believe we're only up 4?"

Pathetic coaching. Then Roy gets up in the postgame PC and says "a lot of people say we should have gotten foul called on Joel, but that's just sour grapes." But Roy was the one motioning, twice, that he got hacked just after the clock hit 0:00. I don't post in this thread as much as some of you, but I'm pretty sure you'll find a post or two from me where I've said that I'm just not that big a fan of RW. I didn't like how he seemed so pissed off to be our coach at the introductory PC. K would win a NC with this UNC team.
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Sour grapes from UNC fans should be why didn't we call time out and draw something up for the guy who has 29 points?
 
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#235
#daggumroy was trending last night in Charlotte. 😁

If you are on Twitter and want to follow someone funny follow @daggumroy, great stuff.
 
#236
#236
Perhaps one of you Duke fans can clue me in, since you follow Duke more than I do. How does Ted Cruz have time to senator, run for president, and play basketball for Duke?

Seems like an overwhelming schedule, yet he played well again last night. The guy must moonlight as superman as well.
 
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volprof said:
Perhaps one of you Duke fans can clue me in, since you follow Duke more than I do. How does Ted Cruz have time to senator, run for president, and play basketball for Duke?

Seems like an overwhelming schedule, yet he played well again last night. The guy must moonlight as superman as well.
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Haha the resemblance is real . I don't think Trump or UNC fans think he's a ***** though.
 
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RDU VOL#14 said:
Big win for the Heels. I'm even very proud of Duke in tough gutty loss.
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This Duke team is slowly becoming one of my favorites regardless of the win/loss column. They always fight so hard and give it everything they have every single game. I'm not even gonna comment on the last 7 minutes of that game and the calls that were made
 
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kid50 said:
This Duke team is slowly becoming one of my favorites regardless of the win/loss column. They always fight so hard and give it everything they have every single game. I'm not even gonna comment on the last 7 minutes of that game and the calls that were made
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I'm with you about this team, they have really grown on me, especially the last month. I thought K's post game comments were hilarious about the officiating. Allen's tech didn't bother me either.
 
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#243
#243
Today, we saw the UNC team that can win the national championship. Unfortunately, I don't see how they can hold together that kind of play with enough consistency to win the title.

And I know some of you get tired of me mentioning it, but what a difference it makes when you can actually hit three pointers in today's three point-centric game (or at least it's trending that way, even in the NBA).

The biggest thing I can't figure out with this year's team is the play of one Marcus Paige, specifically. We are tempted to immediately blame it on Roy and the coaching staff, and I'm sure they haven't done a whole lot to help, as sorry as they seem to be, but that can't be it. I say that because Paige started the season so well, culminating in and ending with his 30 point game at FSU. Since then, it's almost as if someone puts a lid on the goal whenever he attempts a shot. It's like someone just flipped a switch off with him. Even his free throw shooting has become relatively poor, especially considering that he was a 90 percent shooter earlier in his UNC career. Against Miami today, nearly everyone was finally hitting shots, even from the perimeter, with the exception of Paige.

I've never seen a player change as dramatically for the worse as he has. The only plausible explanation is that he currently has some serious mental issues regarding his game (and possibly even something off the court) to address. That's the only thing that makes any sense. Even Roy's sorry ass coaching couldn't possibly have Paige playing this bad. UNC needs him to at least hit two or three perimeter shots a game to make a run in March. Sadly, I don't see him capable of achieving even that modest goal at this point.
 
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#244
#244
Paige has a confidence problem. Simple as that. I wish it was as easy as they say for him to "shoot his way out of it" but it doesn't seem like that is going to happen. I thought he'd maybe turned a corner against Notre Dame, but he's struggled since then. I never thought he'd be a question mark or what could be the main factor in a disappointing season, but that's where we are right now. Fortunately, there are still games to be played and the season that matters begins next month.
 
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Regulator said:
Paige has a confidence problem. Simple as that. I wish it was as easy as they say for him to "shoot his way out of it" but it doesn't seem like that is going to happen. I thought he'd maybe turned a corner against Notre Dame, but he's struggled since then. I never thought he'd be a question mark or what could be the main factor in a disappointing season, but that's where we are right now. Fortunately, there are still games to be played and the season that matters begins next month.
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I remember watching the UNC-Notre Dame game a couple weeks ago and they were talking about his slump and the comments Paige had made before the game. He said he loved to play at UNC bc of the lighting and the soft rims. Well what do ya know? He was on fire that game simply bc he had a positive outlook about that game. It's definitely all mental with him. If he can be as positive and excited about playing everywhere as he was when he played at Notre Dame he could be great.
 
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#246
Thought this was funny:

Roy Williams responds to CBS retiring report (FULL QUOTE) - 1 - InsideCarolina.com Forums - Scout

On a related note, the first signs for me that Roy might need to think about retirement came in '12, when we went down to Tallahassee and got curb-stomped by 30 plus. There's no way in Hell anyone can convince me that team should ever have lost a game by 12 or more points, let alone 30 or more. I don't care if the game was played on the road or on Mars.

His failure to win it that year was, luckily for him (as bizarre as that may seem), written away due to the massive amount of injuries we suffered towards the end of the year, culminating with the game against Creighton that probably should have earned those bastards a one year postseason ban. (Creighton, for the record, is a program and a school that is now permanently dead to me. Would suit me just fine if they never played another game.)

Those concerns have resurfaced this year, however. I didn't think about it much during the Duke game, but after going back and reading several analyses, I'm convinced that Roy lost that game, although certainly our inability to shoot the three pointer (which allowed Duke to double down on its low post defense against Johnson and Hicks) didn't help.

If we win the title this year, I'll shut up for the time being, but I don't think we're going to win the title. The way this team has played the past two months, I think the Sweet Sixteen is its limit, unless it stumbles into highly favorable matchups. I think it's time now for Roy to hang it up. He can ride out the NCAA concerns, so the next coach doesn't have that hanging over him as he's trying to get off the ground here, but, after that is finally over, Roy needs to go. The game has past him by, and he has demonstrated a clear record of either an inability or an unwillingness to adapt. It's like he's still trying to coach the game like it's the 1980s.
 
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spankadelphia said:
The Great Unpleasantness looms large.
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I highly doubt anything comes of it. The most important thing for UNC is that Roy just ride the waiting period out, so that the next coach doesn't have to start his tenure with one or two years of uncertainty affecting his recruiting. Nothing will come of this investigation, save some minor penalties. I think one of the reasons it has dragged on so long is that the NCAA has wanted to punish UNC's recruiting by having a NCAA cloud hanging over the program for the last couple of years and, indeed, our recruiting has only been a shell of what it previously was. The NCAA, however, is reluctant to actually do anything significant on a formal level. I suspect that within the next year or two, they'll finally deliver their verdict, which will only be a wrist-slap at that point, and then Roy can finally retire, and UNC can finally move on.

Sorry, UNC haters, but this isn't going to do what you think it will, especially since the two clowns at the helm (Willingham and her loverboy History professor) have been exposed as frauds. You will, however, get the benefit of witnessing at least a 2-3 year down period in UNC basketball, since our recruiting has sucked lately.
 
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Roy's reluctance to adapt to this era of one and dones has been very detrimental to UNC's recruiting. This is why it is so important for him to win this year, because if he can't win with the most experienced talent, how the hell can he win with inexperienced talent? The main thing is that he is not developing players. In the past if you went to UNC you were almost a lock to be a good to great pro. Now it's the opposite. Other than Paul Pierce I can't think of anyone who had great success as a pro under Roy's tutelage. I'm probably wrong, but nobody comes to mind. It will be interesting to see what happens to both Duke and UNC when K and Roy ride off to the sunset.
 
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