Unoffical guide to all those traveling to the Oregon game. What to do/expect there.

No kids, just a dog... She has both a Vols collar and a Duck collar, it depends on the mood of the house. Lol!!
LOL and I am sure behind your back your hubby slipping off her Orange collar for the Green one from time to time and then saying "I don't know where the Orange one is Honey. She must of just got tired with it and maybe just took it off herself and wanted to Go Green." :dance2: But if I were your hubby I would train her that at each time I say the word, "O", such as, "Oh, I don't know what I want to eat tonight" after hearing "O" she echo's back a long loud howl of "OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" "Bark!"
LOL
 
LOL and I am sure behind your back your hubby slipping off her Orange collar for the Green one from time to time and then saying "I don't know where the Orange one is Honey. She must of just got tired with it and maybe just took it off herself and wanted to Go Green." :dance2: But if I were your hubby I would train her that at each time I say the word, "O", such as, "Oh, I don't know what I want to eat tonight" after hearing "O" she echo's back a long loud howl of "OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" "Bark!"
LOL

Lol!! We've tried to teach her to howl, it would work for the Vols too (Smokey) but she just barks and looks at us like we're dumb!
 
I do need to add to this conversation, the day before was simply a blast with the OU fans at Calhoun's on the river. And like you said we welcome all of them at the before party, the OOOOOO kinda got a little old but "I'm sure they didn't like the Its Great to be a Tennessee Vol" either
. I tried to schedule a vacation to get to Eugene but it didn't work out, so heres to watching on TV.

As comparisons on stadiums noise levels, Neyland will be its normal self as CBJ brings UT back to prominence, he is working on Awaking a sleep giant call Volunteer Fan base.
ya, our, "OOOOOOOOOO" does annoy other fans much. But as a Duck nothing gives me more goosebumps then to be at Autzen Stadium and go to the bathroom before the game starts, and like some random guy will walk in the packed concrete bathroom and yell out, "OOOOOOO" and the whole place will echo it right back, all loud as heck, as if going to war, all at the same exact tone and pitch/key. LOL I personally do not find it annoying at all for Football games though. But ya, for Basketball games, them yelling it all game long, ya, that gets old. We only yell it while on Defense at Football games though... :)

The funniest thing I ever saw was the 2011 Stanford game, an away game. I drove down. Stanford was undefeated until then. I was not in the visitor section, but in the other corner-same side. But TONS of Ducks were in my section. A little 10 year old boy, Stanford fan, was sitting in front of me. I could easily tell it was his very first ever CFB game. And that little kid was so scared, petrified even at hearing how loud we were behind him, us yelling our freaking heads off, "OOOOO" and rumbling the wooden stands with our heals creating a sound of great thunder while Stanford was on Offense. That little boy kept on turning around all so incredibly scared. And well, all his family, and other stanford fans in front of us, near him, they were all wisper quiet, typical Stanford fans. And after a half, when he quit peeing his pants from hearing this great mob of Oregon fans(many hundreds of us in that section)he tried coppying us. When his own team was on Offense, he would yell as loud as he could, to try to mimic us. (lol) And then later, he would yell the "OOOOOO" too, even standing up and throwing his hands into a "O" trying , again, to copy us. One could easily tell the little boy was as confused as heck and never once seen a football game, much less his "team". And after a while some other Stanford fans a ways down had to go to him to tell him to stop, that A)you dont yell loud when your team is on Offense. B)that "O" noise and hand signals are a Oregon thing, not a Stanford thing....

And a few days later, on a sports forum, a Stanford fan came on to rebuke us Ducks that were there on that site. He chastised us saying that us Ducks took Football way to serious and that he felt we were actually a cult. LOL, best single compliment I have ever heard about us.:)
 
Unfortunately I will not be able to go to the game but really do enjoy reading all the info about Oregon. Never really thought much about a vacation out there until reading this thread. But now strongly considering. I was at the game in Knoxville and was really surprised at how many Oregon fans were there. I hope that there is a sea of orange in your stadium and wish I could be in that sea of orange but its just a trip I cant afford right now. Kinda curious why you suggested not seeing the sea lions?
 
(Sorry this is long. If this bothers you, then do not read. Meant to help those Tenn fans traveling to Oregon)

First off, I did not personally go to the 2010 UO-Tenn game at Tenn. But my roommate did and called me 10-12 times before-during-after the game, giving me the low down. Fact- Tenn fans treated Oregon fans really nice. UO fans were actually blown away. (remember this point because it may indeed come back to protect you). My roommate said that during the storm some nicer- older Tenn guy took him in his pickup to shelter him from the rain and offered him tons of wisky to get him warm. lol My roommate does not drink but he appreciated the gester very much. And I heard very many other reports, from him, talking to other Ducks there, the same thing happened to them. Tons of nice Tenn people offering shelter in a bad storm offering them booze.
Such kindness of Tenn people left a great impression on us.

For those flying down, here are some things you should do, and what to expect:

For 1, do not spend much time around Eugene. Sure, stay the night before, or arrive in the morning game-day, for sure. But Eugene is nothing to write home about, imo. Portland and it's area is where it's at. Even if you only have 1-3 days to visit, you want to spend your time where I suggest: A)A half hour East of Portland is Multnomah Falls. Bring a camera. Your welcome in advance. If you have more time then a couple hours, Drive over into the State of Washington, head East on Hyway 14(i think it is), that runs along the Washington side of the Columbia River. If you like a good hike, stop at Beacon Rock, hike it. If not, drive all the way unto the Bridge. I think it costs like 1 buck to use it, crossing yourself into Oregon over the River. And you will see the most beautiful views all along the way. Then while heading West on I-84, stop at Multnomah falls. Again, if you like to hike, and see great sites, spend the 1-2 hours hiking up to the very top of the falls. If you want lunch, stop at the Bridge of the gods, & there is a little restaurant there. That small loop, I personally call my Holy Trifecta, and I have taken many women on that loop impressing them with our lands beauty. One girl from Chicago, who was from India, but only had lived 1 year in Chicago, said that was the most beautiful thing she had ever seen and the single best day of her life- me taking her on that little loop. But bring Camera. I also took her to Portlands famous Rose Garden after, later at night. I will get to that in a sec.

And spend most of your time around Portland. Downtown, anywhere. You will enjoy it and what you see. If it were me, go to NW 23rd street, off of NW Burnside St. That street is like it's own village. And then while there, go check out our famous Rose Garden. I say this for guys taking their wives. And it has great views there of the city. Plus that neighborhood that one drives through there is very nice to see. It is near our Pro Soccer Stadium. Enter through Salmon St. And check out that park, Washington Park there. That is my favorite park.

But on top of just East of Portland- Multnomah Falls(probably our most famous signature postcard picture area) and on top of our City- Portland- the next awesome thing to see is out West of Portland- to the Coast. Drive hyway 26(about 1.5-2 hours to the coast from Portland) towards Seaside. For those coastal mnt's ones see's along that drive will have you in heaven. And Seaside is our most touristy famous Beach. It is the spot, during spring break that all the Oregon, Washington, Idaho, Montana college kids go to to have a good time on spring break. And while in that area, drop south on Hyway 101 along the coast, only a few miles South and check out Cannon Beach. That is where the most famous pictures are taken of the Oregon Coast- that beach, with its huge massive boulders in the water- on the Ocean-on the beach. But do not expect to swim. Our Ocean water is very cold, except in a Elnina year.

And all of the above could easily be done in one single day even, as the traveling distance is not far, if you woke up early. And I write this because I know Tenn is land locked and many probably want to see the Pacific Ocean, just to say they have been there. Seaside to play the Tourest, Cannon Beach to take pictures, imo is where you want to be.

Our food in Oregon is nothing special. But our Micro Beer and and Coffee is. We are beer and Coffee snobs out here. Portland is the #2 Coffee city after Seattle and the #1 Micro Beer City in America. But we do it a little different in Oregon- our beers have tons of hops. It is a acquired taste, lol. And for anyone not liking beer, just stop by any Mcmenamins Pubs(there are tons) anywhere from Portland-Eugene. Their food used to be great, but it went downhill- going cheap. But their Beer is 2nd to none. As for samples- free of any. But you really want to try their "Ruby". One cannot buy it in stores. Even if your wife hates beer, even she will love this beer. There simply is no better tasting beer on planet earth than this beer. Again, your welcome.

And while in Eugene, gameday, while we have the best Tailgating in the PAC-12 by far, truth is, it is nothing close to SEC level. Keep in mind, during most of the CFB season it is very cold/rainy here, so there are reasons for that. But while you visit your own Tenn ALum tent, party with your own kind, check out the Mo center, a few feet away from the stadium to your left. It is our indoor Football practice building that we convert to one large Beer/food/ Duck garden on gameday.

While at the game, or after, you may indeed have a few younger(under 30) guys, who are drunk get in your face, or hear "you inbred Southern SEC hick" kind of stuff. What you do is this: (that is why I opened this thread with explaining how you treated us). You simply inform said drunk piece of crap Oregon bandwagon fan that your own people treated Oregon fans very nicely, even offering them booze and shelter from the great rain and storm. And by saying that to them, it will silence them. Yes Autzen can be a little hostile sometimes(but mainly only to Udub fans) but you inform those bandwagens how you treated us while we visited, and you will be fine.

Most of you may not even get bad treatment, as most of our Duck fans are very, very nice people. However, do note: Some fans that came on to us in 2009-2010 are bandwagon type. And you MAY get some bad treatment from a FEW people. Please disregard that, imo. It is just that out West we hate the SEC with a passion of a thousand suns. And you are a SEC team. And they are not too bright knowing that Tenn fans actually were EXTREMELY kind and considerate to us. And also, we have had many LSU fans, while playing at Dallas, pick fights with our fans. And Auburn fans were terrible to deal with in general during our National Champ game. So be warned a little. But do not be scared. Word has spread much on how you treated us, and there are many, many true Duck fans that will bend over backwards to make sure you are all-right- and are treated in the same way as you treated us.

One last thing: While many National Reporters have said we have the single loudest Stadium in the country, know this: Classes do not start at UO until Sep 30th. Thus, there may not be that many students at the game. Our student section is our strength, very loud. But they may not be there as we are on a Quarter system at UO, as in all State Oregon schools, and not Semester. So translation, it may not be normal loud for this game. However, to get a small taste of how loud it can be, I suggest, wherever you are sitting, during the first quarter, to take a small walk down from your seats near the bottom, while your team is on Offense, just for a second. Why? Well, it can be ok loud in the stands, but the real noise is only captured down on the field. Our field is in a pit kind of, really sunken down low into the ground with a wooden wall around it. The sound enters and stays down there. Your players will have their ears ringing for hours after the game. And to be down on the field or up in the stands is night and day. So take a small walk down, during the game, during first down with your team on Offense,,,,,then by 3rd down, you will arrive to the bottom, but you cannot enter the field. But you can stand there for a min and take it all in. We may not have the highest peak sound- such as for a good play, such as LSU or such, but we have the most constant loud, all game, while we are on Defense- and whisper quiet while on Offense. If you cannot do that, then perhaps talk to your Tenn players when they fly back if our Stadium was as loud as the hype...

I hope any of this helps. Questions, just ask me:

Good advice. I have a niece and her husband that live in Vancouver, and have visited many, many times. I enjoyed Portland, but loved Cannon Beach. I even considered moving there, but my wife didn't exactly cater to the idea of living in such isolation. Place on or near the beach there served some very excellent clam chowder. Every summer when the temperature reaches 90 degrees I wistfully recall the cool, summer breezes there.

PS Conservatives abound in Oregon and Washington, they are less vocal and assertive than their liberal counterparts.
 
My parents, who are UT alumni, are coming up for the game and staying with me and my wife for the week. Since, I live in the Portland metro area, it is certainly a great place to see if you've never been up here. If you like the bar scenes, 23rd avenue, SE Portland (Belmont and Hawthorne areas), and NE Mississippi Ave have some great bar and eateries that are very walkable.

We're gonna check out some stuff outside of Portland this go around since its old hat for us. We're heading to Crater Lake (about 2.5 hours southeast of Eugene). It is a world famous caldera.

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We're also going to visit Bend Oregon (about 2.5 hours east of Eugene). It is a cool tourist town in the high desert of central oregon with a lot of hiking and other outdoorsmen stuff and home of Sisters (part of the Cascade range).

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I'm also taking my parents to Mount Saint Helens (about an 1.25 hour north of Portland). It's famous for its 1980 eruption which can be seen from the north and hiked all around.

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There's plenty more to see if you love the outdoors and if you're not into the outdoors, Portland and Eugene are both fun towns. Have a great and safe time everyone and GO VOLS!!!!
 
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Head either to Mt. Hood or Cannon Beach, both 1.5 hrs drive from Portland.

The Timberline lodge at the foot of Mt. Hood was the exterior lodge from The Shining.

Haystack Rock on Cannon Beach was featured in The Goonies.

University of Oregon was also the set for Faber College in Animal House.
 
Thanks, if we must make concessions for the rim fire we will,but yesterday it was said to be 80% contained. I have been to the maroon bells in the summer, but i have heard the area near grand staircase /escalante is worth visiting. I mtn bike have never been to moab. But i am not by myself have to take in to consideration the others. The narrow gauge is something thats interests us all. The ghost town does as well. Is this going to be somewhere we must be careful?


Ashcroft is entirely safe, both from an historical preservation standpoint and location/isolation. As for the narrow gauge railroads, I have taken the Durango & Silverton Railroad myself; it takes you through the rugged Animas River gorge. Given the altitude, take a warm jacket, particularly if you ride in the open-air cars. Depending on the weather conditions and the specific timing of your potential visit, it is possible, although highly unlikely, that the aspen could be turning by the time you reach Silverton. As a general rule, the San Juans don't reach anywhere near peak color until early October.

The Durango & Silverton Railroad is extremely popular, so it would be wise to book online, as opposed to purchasing tickets on a walk-up basis. It is also the railroad that has been featured in countless western movies. The Cumbres & Toltec Railroad is not as well known but it takes you even higher. I have not ridden on the latter train, so I can't provide any personal observations.

I believe that you said that you had already been to Ouray. Did you traverse the San Juan Skyway in its entirety? See San Juan Skyway - Map. More specifically, have you visited the stretch of this highway from Ridgway to Placerville and Rico? The area near Dallas Divide is drop-dead gorgeous and has been featured in a number of commercials, including the football-playing horse commercials by Budweiser, I believe. Ouray County roads 5, 7, and 9 provide excellent access to this area; these routes are unpaved but easily accessible by SUV. Also, are you aware that there are a number of jeep outfitters in Ouray, Durango and other towns in the area that offer jeep tours high into the San Juan backcountry? They provide access to areas that most visitors simply will not see without horseback or extensive backpacking.

Depending on the specific interests of your group/family, Santa Fe might appeal due to its wealth of cultural attractions, particularly art galleries and historical museums with a strong emphasis on Native American culture.

Oh, and I couldn't offer a better selling point for Crater Lake than the image that Ashevolle posted directly above this post. The water in that lake possesses a blue, the depth of which I have never seen anywhere else on this earth.
 
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Unfortunately I will not be able to go to the game but really do enjoy reading all the info about Oregon. Never really thought much about a vacation out there until reading this thread. But now strongly considering. I was at the game in Knoxville and was really surprised at how many Oregon fans were there. I hope that there is a sea of orange in your stadium and wish I could be in that sea of orange but its just a trip I cant afford right now. Kinda curious why you suggested not seeing the sea lions?
Sea Lions are pretty cool to watch out in the open but within the confines of the cave they are really loud and smell pretty awful, think hogs with flippers.
 
(Sorry this is long. If this bothers you, then do not read. Meant to help those Tenn fans traveling to Oregon)

First off, I did not personally go to the 2010 UO-Tenn game at Tenn. But my roommate did and called me 10-12 times before-during-after the game, giving me the low down. Fact- Tenn fans treated Oregon fans really nice. UO fans were actually blown away. (remember this point because it may indeed come back to protect you). My roommate said that during the storm some nicer- older Tenn guy took him in his pickup to shelter him from the rain and offered him tons of wisky to get him warm. lol My roommate does not drink but he appreciated the gester very much. And I heard very many other reports, from him, talking to other Ducks there, the same thing happened to them. Tons of nice Tenn people offering shelter in a bad storm offering them booze.
Such kindness of Tenn people left a great impression on us.

For those flying down, here are some things you should do, and what to expect:

For 1, do not spend much time around Eugene. Sure, stay the night before, or arrive in the morning game-day, for sure. But Eugene is nothing to write home about, imo. Portland and it's area is where it's at. Even if you only have 1-3 days to visit, you want to spend your time where I suggest: A)A half hour East of Portland is Multnomah Falls. Bring a camera. Your welcome in advance. If you have more time then a couple hours, Drive over into the State of Washington, head East on Hyway 14(i think it is), that runs along the Washington side of the Columbia River. If you like a good hike, stop at Beacon Rock, hike it. If not, drive all the way unto the Bridge. I think it costs like 1 buck to use it, crossing yourself into Oregon over the River. And you will see the most beautiful views all along the way. Then while heading West on I-84, stop at Multnomah falls. Again, if you like to hike, and see great sites, spend the 1-2 hours hiking up to the very top of the falls. If you want lunch, stop at the Bridge of the gods, & there is a little restaurant there. That small loop, I personally call my Holy Trifecta, and I have taken many women on that loop impressing them with our lands beauty. One girl from Chicago, who was from India, but only had lived 1 year in Chicago, said that was the most beautiful thing she had ever seen and the single best day of her life- me taking her on that little loop. But bring Camera. I also took her to Portlands famous Rose Garden after, later at night. I will get to that in a sec.

And spend most of your time around Portland. Downtown, anywhere. You will enjoy it and what you see. If it were me, go to NW 23rd street, off of NW Burnside St. That street is like it's own village. And then while there, go check out our famous Rose Garden. I say this for guys taking their wives. And it has great views there of the city. Plus that neighborhood that one drives through there is very nice to see. It is near our Pro Soccer Stadium. Enter through Salmon St. And check out that park, Washington Park there. That is my favorite park.

But on top of just East of Portland- Multnomah Falls(probably our most famous signature postcard picture area) and on top of our City- Portland- the next awesome thing to see is out West of Portland- to the Coast. Drive hyway 26(about 1.5-2 hours to the coast from Portland) towards Seaside. For those coastal mnt's ones see's along that drive will have you in heaven. And Seaside is our most touristy famous Beach. It is the spot, during spring break that all the Oregon, Washington, Idaho, Montana college kids go to to have a good time on spring break. And while in that area, drop south on Hyway 101 along the coast, only a few miles South and check out Cannon Beach. That is where the most famous pictures are taken of the Oregon Coast- that beach, with its huge massive boulders in the water- on the Ocean-on the beach. But do not expect to swim. Our Ocean water is very cold, except in a Elnina year.

And all of the above could easily be done in one single day even, as the traveling distance is not far, if you woke up early. And I write this because I know Tenn is land locked and many probably want to see the Pacific Ocean, just to say they have been there. Seaside to play the Tourest, Cannon Beach to take pictures, imo is where you want to be.

Our food in Oregon is nothing special. But our Micro Beer and and Coffee is. We are beer and Coffee snobs out here. Portland is the #2 Coffee city after Seattle and the #1 Micro Beer City in America. But we do it a little different in Oregon- our beers have tons of hops. It is a acquired taste, lol. And for anyone not liking beer, just stop by any Mcmenamins Pubs(there are tons) anywhere from Portland-Eugene. Their food used to be great, but it went downhill- going cheap. But their Beer is 2nd to none. As for samples- free of any. But you really want to try their "Ruby". One cannot buy it in stores. Even if your wife hates beer, even she will love this beer. There simply is no better tasting beer on planet earth than this beer. Again, your welcome.

And while in Eugene, gameday, while we have the best Tailgating in the PAC-12 by far, truth is, it is nothing close to SEC level. Keep in mind, during most of the CFB season it is very cold/rainy here, so there are reasons for that. But while you visit your own Tenn ALum tent, party with your own kind, check out the Mo center, a few feet away from the stadium to your left. It is our indoor Football practice building that we convert to one large Beer/food/ Duck garden on gameday.

While at the game, or after, you may indeed have a few younger(under 30) guys, who are drunk get in your face, or hear "you inbred Southern SEC hick" kind of stuff. What you do is this: (that is why I opened this thread with explaining how you treated us). You simply inform said drunk piece of crap Oregon bandwagon fan that your own people treated Oregon fans very nicely, even offering them booze and shelter from the great rain and storm. And by saying that to them, it will silence them. Yes Autzen can be a little hostile sometimes(but mainly only to Udub fans) but you inform those bandwagens how you treated us while we visited, and you will be fine.

Most of you may not even get bad treatment, as most of our Duck fans are very, very nice people. However, do note: Some fans that came on to us in 2009-2010 are bandwagon type. And you MAY get some bad treatment from a FEW people. Please disregard that, imo. It is just that out West we hate the SEC with a passion of a thousand suns. And you are a SEC team. And they are not too bright knowing that Tenn fans actually were EXTREMELY kind and considerate to us. And also, we have had many LSU fans, while playing at Dallas, pick fights with our fans. And Auburn fans were terrible to deal with in general during our National Champ game. So be warned a little. But do not be scared. Word has spread much on how you treated us, and there are many, many true Duck fans that will bend over backwards to make sure you are all-right- and are treated in the same way as you treated us.

One last thing: While many National Reporters have said we have the single loudest Stadium in the country, know this: Classes do not start at UO until Sep 30th. Thus, there may not be that many students at the game. Our student section is our strength, very loud. But they may not be there as we are on a Quarter system at UO, as in all State Oregon schools, and not Semester. So translation, it may not be normal loud for this game. However, to get a small taste of how loud it can be, I suggest, wherever you are sitting, during the first quarter, to take a small walk down from your seats near the bottom, while your team is on Offense, just for a second. Why? Well, it can be ok loud in the stands, but the real noise is only captured down on the field. Our field is in a pit kind of, really sunken down low into the ground with a wooden wall around it. The sound enters and stays down there. Your players will have their ears ringing for hours after the game. And to be down on the field or up in the stands is night and day. So take a small walk down, during the game, during first down with your team on Offense,,,,,then by 3rd down, you will arrive to the bottom, but you cannot enter the field. But you can stand there for a min and take it all in. We may not have the highest peak sound- such as for a good play, such as LSU or such, but we have the most constant loud, all game, while we are on Defense- and whisper quiet while on Offense. If you cannot do that, then perhaps talk to your Tenn players when they fly back if our Stadium was as loud as the hype...

I hope any of this helps. Questions, just ask me:

Thanks for the great post. Please forgive some of the idiots that responded. We have a lot of fifth graders posting here. Planning on many of the things you pointed out. Looking forward to gorging on the food trucks :) Hope to see you at Autzen.
 
OK, quick comment, I'll answer any questions I can that will make your trip more enjoyable. I traveled this country on busienss for 30 years, 49 states, both rural and urban areas. I will tell you Portland is one of the best small cities in the country. Great restaurants, good light rail system (free downtown). Travel to Eugene on Game day will be slow as many from Portland will be coming down. Golf: Portland, The Reserve and Pumkin Ridge are nice. Best public course in the Eugene area Emerald Valley. Of course if you've got the time, Bandon Dunes is the obvious choice. Also check out Bend OR and Sunriver Resort for a excellent recreational area.

Oregon wines and micro brews are very good.

Around Eugene, might check out a white water trip on the McKenzie River, for fly fishing check out the Helfrich guide service, I'm sure they have special rates for the Vols making the trip.

Coast: Cannon Beach and Seaside up north, Nye beach near Newport and in that area, check out the aquarium. I'd skip the Sea Lion Caves, but if you must, go ahead.

Ok, open for questions..........

How about Heron Lakes in PDX?
 
I live in eastern Washington and took in my first UO game last week (a little scouting trip). The OP is dead on. I was with a group of duck fans but was wearing orange. I had one asshat cut me off and say something to the effect of "you're at the wrong game, idiot"... I just side stepped him and moved on (a nearby duck apologized on his behalf).

Other than that my day was spent being stopped by ducks that went to the game in Knoxville telling me how much fun they had and civilly discussing football. They are really a good crowd.

Then again, not that anyone here is intimidated! The OP has clearly never been to a night game in the swamp as a ranked visiting fan. Yikes... talk about rednecks!

See ya'll next week. Look for me, I'll wear my orange hat ;)
 
Ashcroft is entirely safe, both from an historical preservation standpoint and location/isolation. As for the narrow gauge railroads, I have taken the Durango & Silverton Railroad myself; it takes you through the rugged Animas River gorge. Given the altitude, take a warm jacket, particularly if you ride in the open-air cars. Depending on the weather conditions and the specific timing of your potential visit, it is possible, although highly unlikely, that the aspen could be turning by the time you reach Silverton. As a general rule, the San Juans don't reach anywhere near peak color until early October.

The Durango & Silverton Railroad is extremely popular, so it would be wise to book online, as opposed to purchasing tickets on a walk-up basis. It is also the railroad that has been featured in countless western movies. The Cumbres & Toltec Railroad is not as well known but it takes you even higher. I have not ridden on the latter train, so I can't provide any personal observations.

I believe that you said that you had already been to Ouray. Did you traverse the San Juan Skyway in its entirety? See San Juan Skyway - Map. More specifically, have you visited the stretch of this highway from Ridgway to Placerville and Rico? The area near Dallas Divide is drop-dead gorgeous and has been featured in a number of commercials, including the football-playing horse commercials by Budweiser, I believe. Ouray County roads 5, 7, and 9 provide excellent access to this area; these routes are unpaved but easily accessible by SUV. Also, are you aware that there are a number of jeep outfitters in Ouray, Durango and other towns in the area that offer jeep tours high into the San Juan backcountry? They provide access to areas that most visitors simply will not see without horseback or extensive backpacking.

Depending on the specific interests of your group/family, Santa Fe might appeal due to its wealth of cultural attractions, particularly art galleries and historical museums with a strong emphasis on Native American culture.

Oh, and I couldn't offer a better selling point for Crater Lake than the image that Ashevolle posted directly above this post. The water in that lake possesses a blue, the depth of which I have never seen anywhere else on this earth.


Thanks V rex, yeah i spoke about crater lake and it was nixed for the trip down the coast. We will definitely go to Ashcroft ans i remember seeing something about the san juan skyway would really like to go down that road. Time restraints will keep us from a trip up into the mtns in a jeep, but i will do that at some point. I really hope the apens are turning gold while we are there and we will also take one of those trains. Thanks again and thanks to all of you who have provided great info. GBO!

P.S Just got back from the UT/WKU man was that hot looking forward to some cooler weather.
 
The San Juan Skyway is a 233-mile long loop, but it is, without question, one of the most scenic highways anywhere in the United States. If you look at this map (San Juan Skyway - Map), the most spectacular country is encompassed by the northern half of the loop, which extends roughly from Coal Bank Pass north to Ouray and Ridgway, then south to Rico. You will see a lot of incredibly rugged 14,000-foot peaks in this area but the most impressive of all, in my opinion, is the Sneffels Range, which you will see from the Dallas Divide area; here are a couple of shots of that area in the fall (Sneffels Range Autumn : San Juan Mountains, Colorado : Mountain Photography by Jack Brauer and San Juan Mountains - Colorado, Photograph, Autumn).

I am assuming that the latest you will pass through that area is the 19th or 20th of September. I have seen fall foliage near its peak in the Rocky Mountain National Park area (Peak-to-Peak Highway) just a couple of days later than that, but you probably won't get much more than a tantalizing glimpse of "coming attractions" in the San Juans at that time of the month. The last time I went to Colorado, we left the Ridgway area on October 4th and the aspen still were nowhere near their peak.

Another tip: Go up to the Dallas Divide parking area shortly before sunset. This area is absolutely magical viewing at that time. It also is considered to have some of the cleanest air in the lower 48; you will be absolutely awestruck by the night sky. The attached photo was actually shot in the Teton backcountry, but it is representative of what you can expect there on a truly clear night: Great Beyond : Mountain and Winter Landscapes : Marc Adamus Photography.

Be careful, however. Elk are not typically seen in that area, but I spotted one just a few feet from the road as we headed back to Ouray after viewing the night sky from the Dallas Divide.

Incidentally, here is a photo of Ashcroft, the ghost town, at the height of fall color: Ashcroft Main Street in Autumn : White River National Forest, Colorado : Dave Showalter Nature Photography. "The town's heyday was 1885, when 3,500 people lived here and supported 20 saloons and 6 hotels. The town has had numerous lives and is a well-preserved tourist destination today."
 
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After the Redwoods, headed to San Fran for Alcatraz and the warf for a day, then east to Yosemite (want be enough time there, but will get to see el cap and Yosemite valley). Then straight to Flagstaff(i have been here and CO a few times), but i am always interested in new ideas for travel. The last time i went from Denver to flagstaff went through the TN pass, leadville,ouray, and durango area. Any more ideas are always welcomed. Thanks. GBO!

Went to culinary school in Portland, worked in Yosemite and been to every place on your list of places...you're gonna have a great time. Still trying to decide if I want to venture out for this one, got tons of friends I could stay with in Portland (or Pornland for those in the know lol) but I own my own business and I can't really shut it down for that long and take off. Decisions decisions. I think any Vol fans going out there are in for a treat.

Check out the Dundee hills and Williamette Valley for Oregon pinot noirs..you'll thank me later. Lots of great stuff to do in Portland. If you fly in to the airport and are staying downtown go to the end of the terminal and catch the MAX downtown, save you about 50 bucks on cab fare and drops you off right at Pioneer Square downtown. Free bus rides anywhere downtown should get you close to your hotel in a jiff.
 
Thanks V rex, yeah i spoke about crater lake and it was nixed for the trip down the coast. We will definitely go to Ashcroft ans i remember seeing something about the san juan skyway would really like to go down that road. Time restraints will keep us from a trip up into the mtns in a jeep, but i will do that at some point. I really hope the apens are turning gold while we are there and we will also take one of those trains. Thanks again and thanks to all of you who have provided great info. GBO!

P.S Just got back from the UT/WKU man was that hot looking forward to some cooler weather.

Forgot to add...when you leave Yosemite go through Tuolumne meadows and out the east side of the Park and stop at the Mobil station by Mono lake. Going over Tioga pass is a beautiful drive itself and the Mobil station might be your first chance at 5 star cuisine in a gas station...and they have trapeze outside and a hotspring on the hill up behind it. Google Mono lake and check out the formations there.
 
Forgot to add...when you leave Yosemite go through Tuolumne meadows and out the east side of the Park and stop at the Mobil station by Mono lake. Going over Tioga pass is a beautiful drive itself and the Mobil station might be your first chance at 5 star cuisine in a gas station...and they have trapeze outside and a hotspring on the hill up behind it. Google Mono lake and check out the formations there.


Normally, I would completely agree with this recommendation, and things probably will change in the next week to ten days. At present, however, the Tioga Pass road is closed "from Crane Flat to 1.5 miles east of White Wolf. The only access to the Tuolumne Meadows area is via Highway 120 from near Lee Vining" (Maps - Yosemite National Park).
 
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I have never heard him that quiet during the 1st half of the game. I didn't expect to win that game, our team was mostly freshman... 18 year old boys can't compete with 22 year old men. We are both huge football fans... so we get along no matter who wins or loses.

He graduated from Siuslaw High School in Florence.

My dad is a Florence native and Siuslaw grad! Florence is like my second home. Great memories of family gatherings at the North Jetty building driftwood forts, sitting by a fire, feet in the sand and watching the sun set into the ocean. Also swimming at Heceta Head Lighthouse and getting looks :eek:hmy: from the 'Fornians haha
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My dad is a Florence native and Siuslaw grad! Florence is like my second home. Great memories of family gatherings at the North Jetty building driftwood forts, sitting by a fire, feet in the sand and watching the sun set into the ocean. Also swimming at Heceta Head Lighthouse and getting looks :eek:hmy: from the 'Fornians haha
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Got married at the Hecetahead Lighthouse! Love that place!
 
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My parents, who are UT alumni, are coming up for the game and staying with me and my wife for the week. Since, I live in the Portland metro area, it is certainly a great place to see if you've never been up here. If you like the bar scenes, 23rd avenue, SE Portland (Belmont and Hawthorne areas), and NE Mississippi Ave have some great bar and eateries that are very walkable.

We're gonna check out some stuff outside of Portland this go around since its old hat for us. We're heading to Crater Lake (about 2.5 hours southeast of Eugene). It is a world famous caldera.

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We're also going to visit Bend Oregon (about 2.5 hours east of Eugene). It is a cool tourist town in the high desert of central oregon with a lot of hiking and other outdoorsmen stuff and home of Sisters (part of the Cascade range).

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I'm also taking my parents to Mount Saint Helens (about an 1.25 hour north of Portland). It's famous for its 1980 eruption which can be seen from the north and hiked all around.

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There's plenty more to see if you love the outdoors and if you're not into the outdoors, Portland and Eugene are both fun towns. Have a great and safe time everyone and GO VOLS!!!!

Beautiful pics.:good!:
 

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