USU Scrimmage

[VolAllen]

This thread having 450 replies is unbelievable. A thread about Utah State coming to play our Vols should have ended after ONE response such as "who", or "haha", or "at least we pushed back the FL game"...so this really is incredible. I'll go ahead and give it a shot 450 posts later...


WHO IN THE F*** IS UTAH STATE?!?!?!?!

 

[sjt18]

This thread having 450 replies is unbelievable. A thread about Utah State coming to play our Vols should have ended after ONE response such as "who", or "haha", or "at least we pushed back the FL game"...so this really is incredible. I'll go ahead and give it a shot 450 posts later...


WHO IN THE F*** IS UTAH STATE?!?!?!?!

The only real attraction is that we have so little else to discuss...

You are right though. Anything that pushes UF back is a good thing. I'd love to see them at the end of the season each year instead of the beginning.

 

[ag4fr]

Oh one last thing for now... before you overestimate how important you are.

You are getting this much attention only because you showed up... not because you are viewed as particularly "meaningful" in the grand scheme of UT football. Win or lose, you are who you are... and UT is still one of the top 10 historic programs in CFB with some of the best facilities and strongest fanbases in the country. Your only real significance is that you are here and keep piping up.

So when a real rival shows up to talk the upcoming season and game... please don't get your feelings hurt when no one cares to talk to you.

Holy cow! You sound all intense and butthurt.

Five consecutive posts on one thread in a span of 20 minutes!!!! LOL! Get ahold of yourself!!

Back away from the keyboard and go knock back a couple of a cold ones.

 

[KBVol]

To which facts are you referring?

BTW, I've noticed how many UT fans will never address facts. They continue to tell us how great the SEC is and how overwhelming the crowd is at Neyland and how UT used to be really good. They won't even respond.

1. The SEC is great
2. The crowd of 102k at Neyland can definitely be overwhelming
3. UT used to be really good

All 3 are facts....

 

[DCS]

Can you explain to me why this game will be different from BYU, or even, the BSU game last year?

The biggest difference will be at the QB position. Last year Chuckie Keeton went down in the BYU game, the BSU game was the week after. The offense suffered a ton without a consistent QB. During the BYU game the backup couldn't get anything going at all and because of that the defense was on the field way too long and gave up some easy points. It was so bad that a true freshman QB (Garretson) got his RS pulled to give it a shot. He wasn't ready for D1 football.
The BSU game was much of the same. Boise just stacked the line and stuffed the run. Garretson was too green to figure out how to get first downs and let the defense rest. Eventually the defense broke down against them as well.

It also doesn't help that USU had the top RB out and a starting G out with injuries for those games. I think USU starting all players healthy would have beat BSU, the BYU game would have been close. The injury bug stalled the offense in a major way.

Depth at USU could be the deciding factor. The starters will hold their own against UT and will be competitive. If anybody gets injured that is when UT's talent would be greater than USU can handle.

 

[sjt18]

Holy cow! You sound all intense and butthurt.

Five consecutive posts on one thread in a span of 20 minutes!!!! LOL! Get ahold of yourself!!

Back away from the keyboard and go knock back a couple of a cold ones.

You asked for someone to deal with objective things. Now you want to deflect and evade again.

Just responding to different non-sense you posted. Don't flatter yourself.

 

[sjt18]

Depth at USU could be the deciding factor. The starters will hold their own against UT and will be competitive. If anybody gets injured that is when UT's talent would be greater than USU can handle.

You are as delusional as the other guy.

 

[ag4fr]

1. The SEC is great
2. The crowd of 102k at Neyland can definitely be overwhelming
3. UT used to be really good
.
All 3 are facts....

True dat.

Number 1 and 3 don't win games though.

 

[LotteryPick]

The biggest difference will be at the QB position. Last year Chuckie Keeton went down in the BYU game, the BSU game was the week after. The offense suffered a ton without a consistent QB. During the BYU game the backup couldn't get anything going at all and because of that the defense was on the field way too long and gave up some easy points. It was so bad that a true freshman QB (Garretson) got his RS pulled to give it a shot. He wasn't ready for D1 football.
The BSU game was much of the same. Boise just stacked the line and stuffed the run. Garretson was too green to figure out how to get first downs and let the defense rest. Eventually the defense broke down against them as well.

It also doesn't help that USU had the top RB out and a starting G out with injuries for those games. I think USU starting all players healthy would have beat BSU, the BYU game would have been close. The injury bug stalled the offense in a major way.

Depth at USU could be the deciding factor. The starters will hold their own against UT and will be competitive. If anybody gets injured that is when UT's talent would be greater than USU can handle.

We know all about the RS QB situation, ha.

I'm in the minority, as I think it'll be relatively close, but like others have said, I think UT has too much talent.

Maggitt being healthy and playing DE is a very big deal for us.

 

[LotteryPick]

True dat.

Number 1 and 3 don't win games though.

But more talent will.

 

[RiseToTheTop]

True dat.

Number 1 and 3 don't win games though.

Well I can't go back n forth anymore. I do think it's funny that you think we will be so terrible. C ya in August. You'll be welcomed by almost 103k and there won't be many of your friends in blue there.

 

[sjt18]

True dat.

Number 1 and 3 don't win games though.

Nope. More talented players do though. And while you talk big game on your site... you seem to lose your bravery when challenged here.

There you suggest if not say that your boys are going to win and are better than UT. Here you wimp out.

 

[KBVol]

True dat.

Number 1 and 3 don't win games though.

Wasn't the point. You said UT fans wouldn't address facts, said we were only saying those 3 things....which are all facts.

And what the hell would a USU fan know about winning anything?

 

[ag4fr]

Nope. More talented players do though. And while you talk big game on your site... you seem to lose your bravery when challenged here.

There you suggest if not say that your boys are going to win and are better than UT. Here you wimp out.

I think I have said about the same things both places.

UT has the talent/athleticism edge.

UT has the home field and crowd.

UT fans keep making a big deal of bigger and stronger. It won't be much of a difference.

UT fans keep yakking about the SEC. UT has come out on the winning side of 4 SEC contests in 3 years. I've said that the facts are that UT is a basement program in the SEC today.

UT fans keep talking about the history and tradition of their program. While impressive, it is HISTORY. I've said that the players in the UT program today have NOT been anywhere near to competitive in their league, have NOT played in bowl games, and have NOT "grown up" in a college football environment where they understand the culture and work required to compete at the highest level.

UT fans keep talking about a butt-whoopin. Based on all of the above and based on the on-the-field performances of the two teams over the past several years, I have said that I believe it will be close. The talent differential might be enough to swing it for UT. Along with the home field, they certainly have many advantages. However, I won't be a bit surprised if Utah State comes out and smacks UT in the mouth pretty hard and comes away with a victory. We will see.

All of this has become fairly circuitous again. Time for a break.

 

[sjt18]

UT fans keep making a big deal of bigger and stronger. It won't be much of a difference.

Tell you what. Let's divide players into two groups. One group is bigger, stronger, more athletic, quicker, etc man for man than the other group. Which one do you want?

It WILL be a big difference and is THE biggest difference. Your quick guys have quickness at 5'10" 175. UT's are quicker/faster/stronger at 6' 200 lbs.

UT fans keep yakking about the SEC. UT has come out on the winning side of 4 SEC contests in 3 years. I've said that the facts are that UT is a basement program in the SEC today.

And that means absolutely NOTHING positive for your case. If USU had played the same schedule over that period the results would have been worse. You aren't equal to any of the SEC programs UT has been struggling with. There are few if any of your players that could make the two deep for UGA, USCe, Aub, Bama, LSU, UF, etc.

And no, it isn't a "fact" that UT is a basement program "today". It IS a fact that UT has spent some time in the basement after a run of success that USU has never seen. But where the program is NOW depends on what happens NOW and is manifested this fall.

But FWIW... you'd struggle to beat UK if you endured the grind of UT's schedule. UT has played 4 of the last 6 NC contenders... have you ever played even one?

UT fans keep talking about the history and tradition of their program. While impressive, it is HISTORY.

So are the last 3 years of USU football... and the coach that made them happen... and the vast majority of the players that made them happen. Same is true for UT...

All you want to talk about "objectively" is history. You just want to limit it to the period you want to talk about.

I've said that the players in the UT program today have NOT been anywhere near to competitive in their league, have NOT played in bowl games, and have NOT "grown up" in a college football environment where they understand the culture and work required to compete at the highest level.

And USU has never competed at the highest level... so even if you are right (which I don't think you are) about UT... you are in the exact same boat... with inferior talent.

UT fans keep talking about a butt-whoopin. Based on all of the above and based on the on-the-field performances of the two teams over the past several years, I have said that I believe it will be close.

Ah, so history matters when convenient to you but not when it isn't... gotcha. You are complete denial here of the difference in levels of competition these two programs have faced.

The talent differential might be enough to swing it for UT.

There is no "might" about it. UT is more talented. It isn't close. Your hopes hinge on breaks and the possibility that your coaching might make the difference up.

Along with the home field, they certainly have many advantages. However, I won't be a bit surprised if Utah State comes out and smacks UT in the mouth pretty hard and comes away with a victory. We will see.

Well... at least you dropped the pretense of being rational. If you win, it won't be because of talent... it will be strongly in spite of it.

All of this has become fairly circuitous again. Time for a break.

That's because you never actually deal with the weaknesses in what you are arguing other than with handwaving.

 

[WoodsmanVol]

Time for a break? Oh, is this for real? In solemn hope we prepare for this blessing, perhaps unorthodoxly. Instead of unleavened bread, we employ a yeast. So that we not break the bread so much as tear it. The wholly bread is thus ready for the ceremony of the “leaven.” But now a wine is needed to make the ritual complete. So we take freshly crushed grapes to make a juice fermented into a white wine and left in contact with the grape skins for a prolonged period. A technique that creates, here it is, an orange wine. Now we’re ready for the ag4fr leaven.

Each Vol-fan receives a piece of the wholly bread and a miniature glass of the symbolic orange blood. Mumble some ritualistic chant of gratitude, eat the leaven bread and the drink the leaven wine. Look around, smile, shout for joy. You will have completed the ceremony of the leaven. Now, a hymn, “Reality Be” is the selection:

Sung to the tune of Walking and Talking by Leo Aberer

Bless be the board if the promise is true.
Damned are we if the promise is false.
Relief from repetition we are due.
If it hangs around, we are surely lost.

May the leaven grant us respite and peace.
And we enjoy this place that is our home.
Oh sweet promise of merciful release.
Sweet, sweet promise of being left alone.

The thread’s intent was meaningful discussion;
Among Vols fans about the coming of U-S-U,
T’were never meant to be a verbal concussion,
Of glorifying Aggies while vilifying the U-T too.

Blessed are we if the leaven is for real.
Cursed are we, cursed if it proves to be not.
Blessed are we if the leaven is a done deal.
Cursed are we if continues the verbal rot.

Promises are promises, made all the time.
Is this one real, I guess we will see.
Our hope for the leaven now is sublime.
But what, oh what will the reality be?

–Woodsmanvol--

 

[sjt18]

Sporting and jousting with someone for the fun of it... doesn't mean you take them serious.

 

[Vol865]

I think I have said about the same things both places.

UT has the talent/athleticism edge.

UT has the home field and crowd.

UT fans keep making a big deal of bigger and stronger. It won't be much of a difference.

UT fans keep yakking about the SEC. UT has come out on the winning side of 4 SEC contests in 3 years. I've said that the facts are that UT is a basement program in the SEC today.

UT fans keep talking about the history and tradition of their program. While impressive, it is HISTORY. I've said that the players in the UT program today have NOT been anywhere near to competitive in their league, have NOT played in bowl games, and have NOT "grown up" in a college football environment where they understand the culture and work required to compete at the highest level.

UT fans keep talking about a butt-whoopin. Based on all of the above and based on the on-the-field performances of the two teams over the past several years, I have said that I believe it will be close. The talent differential might be enough to swing it for UT. Along with the home field, they certainly have many advantages. However, I won't be a bit surprised if Utah State comes out and smacks UT in the mouth pretty hard and comes away with a victory. We will see.

All of this has become fairly circuitous again. Time for a break.

YOU DONT PLAY ANYONE. You cant truly believe that your W/L record correlates with ours. The South Carolina and Georgia's that we took to the wire or beat would curb stomp you even on your good days. Yeah we lost bad a few times. But we still won against a good team. Something Utah St has yet to do.

The SEC is collectively better than every other conference. Some teams rely on raw athleticism and size alone to win games because thats all they have to do.

Utah St doesn't have SEC caliber players. You might have size, but theyre slow. You might have some speed but theyre small.


Tennessee has players that are bigger, faster, stronger. Whether it posses you off or not, its the truth.

 

[butchna]

I think I have said about the same things both places.

UT has the talent/athleticism edge.

UT has the home field and crowd.

UT fans keep making a big deal of bigger and stronger. It won't be much of a difference.

UT fans keep yakking about the SEC. UT has come out on the winning side of 4 SEC contests in 3 years. I've said that the facts are that UT is a basement program in the SEC today.

UT fans keep talking about the history and tradition of their program. While impressive, it is HISTORY. I've said that the players in the UT program today have NOT been anywhere near to competitive in their league, have NOT played in bowl games, and have NOT "grown up" in a college football environment where they understand the culture and work required to compete at the highest level.

UT fans keep talking about a butt-whoopin. Based on all of the above and based on the on-the-field performances of the two teams over the past several years, I have said that I believe it will be close. The talent differential might be enough to swing it for UT. Along with the home field, they certainly have many advantages. However, I won't be a bit surprised if Utah State comes out and smacks UT in the mouth pretty hard and comes away with a victory. We will see.

All of this has become fairly circuitous again. Time for a break.

And You :yu:....just...keep...talking :no:

 

[RockyTop411]

This guy cannot be serious.

 

[KBVol]

This guy cannot be serious.

Quite sadly.... he very much is.

 

[BruiserVol]

Time for a break? Oh, is this for real? In solemn hope we prepare for this blessing, perhaps unorthodoxly. Instead of unleavened bread, we employ a yeast. So that we not break the bread so much as tear it. The wholly bread is thus ready for the ceremony of the “leaven.” But now a wine is needed to make the ritual complete. So we take freshly crushed grapes to make a juice fermented into a white wine and left in contact with the grape skins for a prolonged period. A technique that creates, here it is, an orange wine. Now we’re ready for the ag4fr leaven.

Each Vol-fan receives a piece of the wholly bread and a miniature glass of the symbolic orange blood. Mumble some ritualistic chant of gratitude, eat the leaven bread and the drink the leaven wine. Look around, smile, shout for joy. You will have completed the ceremony of the leaven. Now, a hymn, “Reality Be” is the selection:

Sung to the tune of Walking and Talking by Leo Aberer

Bless be the board if the promise is true.
Damned are we if the promise is false.
Relief from repetition we are due.
If it hangs around, we are surely lost.

May the leaven grant us respite and peace.
And we enjoy this place that is our home.
Oh sweet promise of merciful release.
Sweet, sweet promise of being left alone.

The thread’s intent was meaningful discussion;
Among Vols fans about the coming of U-S-U,
T’were never meant to be a verbal concussion,
Of glorifying Aggies while vilifying the U-T too.

Blessed are we if the leaven is for real.
Cursed are we, cursed if it proves to be not.
Blessed are we if the leaven is a done deal.
Cursed are we if continues the verbal rot.

Promises are promises, made all the time.
Is this one real, I guess we will see.
Our hope for the leaven now is sublime.
But what, oh what will the reality be?

–Woodsmanvol--

That's actually very good.

 

[sjt18]

This guy cannot be serious.

Some quotes have been posted of what he says on his teams' website... He's actually fairly tame here comparatively.

 

[BruiserVol]

USUFans.com • View topic - NatureBoy gets trolled, refuses to concede USU>UT(ennessee)

This has to be the dumbest thing I've ever seen:

"USUfans is vastly superior to VolNation. Therefore, the same is obviously true with respect to the football teams as well."

They're lucky to get a page a day in traffic.

 

[WoodsmanVol]

USUFans.com • View topic - NatureBoy gets trolled, refuses to concede USU>UT(ennessee)

This has to be the dumbest thing I've ever seen:

"USUfans is vastly superior to VolNation. Therefore, the same is obviously true with respect to the football teams as well."

They're lucky to get a page a day in traffic.

It is laughable if you know anything at all about VN traffic. Obviously the person who posted that doesn't know and never bothered to check his accuracy.