UT or OSU for the 8-seed? (Data)

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Houstonvol1 said:
In my mind there’s a good chance it will come down to how UGA and PSU play in their champ games. I don’t think moving those teams down 2-4 spots is out of the question with a bad performance. Otherwise I think we will be at OSU.
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If the "eye test" is as much of a factor as they claim, ga should also drop in tonight's poll.
Anyone who watched the game knows that GA Tech really beat ga.

Both ga and Ohio State stunk it up in their last home game.
 
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Power_Sweep_Vol said:
it's hard to understand how you read that and think, "yeah...the losers drop a couple of spots automatically".
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Because they are clearly saying that it is their charge to take the championship games into full account.

And a loss has resulted in at least a drop of two places for every team......every week.......the entire season.
 
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therealitytheory said:
Hundreds of eyeballs in the two major polls say we are better than OSU. That oughta count for something, right?
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Was very surprised, recency bias at its finest, and that's our best hope, right? Because the resumes side by side to me clearly favor Ohio St. I mean, a 1 point loss to the consensus #1 team in the country on their home field, you gave 2 top 10 teams their only loss. I think the committee is more discerning than AP voters unfortunately.
 
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UTFranklinVol said:
That TCU making the playoffs was inevitable regardless of a loss when in reality there was more context and other game results that produced that outcome.
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Yeah, then you misunderstood...it's a relative ranking and depends on how the game was played, and what your final resume comparison is to the other teams, just like you're saying
 
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Power_Sweep_Vol said:
Was very surprised, recency bias at its finest, and that's our best hope, right? Because the resumes side by side to me clearly favor Ohio St. I mean, a 1 point loss to the consensus #1 team in the country on their home field, you gave 2 top 10 teams their only loss. I think the committee is more discerning than AP voters unfortunately.
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If only the Gods had put Indiana on our schedule we wouldn't be having this discussion 😁 or if Oklahoma has been just a few spots higher in the preseason ranking.

I mean as someone else said had Tennessee suffered an embarrassing loss to Vanderbilt at home and OSU has beaten Michigan on the road then this wouldn't even be an argument. That's bias for you.

The AP poll and Coaches polls both say we are better. But you keep saying OSU beat 2 top 10 teams based on those same polls.

Makes no sense.
 
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Power_Sweep_Vol said:
Was very surprised, recency bias at its finest, and that's our best hope, right? Because the resumes side by side to me clearly favor Ohio St. I mean, a 1 point loss to the consensus #1 team in the country on their home field, you gave 2 top 10 teams their only loss. I think the committee is more discerning than AP voters unfortunately.
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I think that actually the AP voters (and the coaches) may be more discerning by realizing the victories over Penn St. and Indiana are not as impressive as a novice may think.
 
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did I miss something? Who says it’s gonna be Ohio state? Don’t we have to let the conference championship weekend play out and see on Sunday morning for the selection show?
 
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Power_Sweep_Vol said:
What are our 2 best wins?
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I would say our best win over Bama is better than any win on OSUs schedule (in reality not in AP ranking). It's also better than any win on Penn States schedule or Indianas schedule or Notre Dames schedule. And I'd say OSUs loss to Michigan at home is worse than our loss on the road to Arkansas.

OSUs loss to Oregon is on par with our loss to Georgia.


If the committee is truly comparing resumes Penn St played 1 top 25 team all year and lost it badly. Surely by your logic we would be ranked higher than them if they got beaten by Oregon. Or why wouldn't we be ranked higher now we surely have a better resume.

Notre Dame never played a team higher than 15 and lost an unforgivable game to N I'll. How is our side by side not bettet than theirs?

I'm not buying that the committee is going to look at things as you suggest. I think if Georgia loses or PSU loses or even TX loses there's a distinct chance we jump any of those teams.
 
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General Jack said:
Interesting analysis OP, what's the asterisk?


The fallacy here is that OSU's 2 top 10 wins are over teams who have done nothing but benefit from major media markets.

Neither Penn St nor Indiana have a high quality win, and in all likelihood are nowhere near being one of the best 10 teams in the country. Yet OSU benefits mightily from that premise.
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This is my issue. PSU best win is what, 9-3 Illinois? After that they have only beaten barely bowl eligible teams I think.
 
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#93
Maybe next time UT will upgrade their OOC schedule so this is not a topic of conversation. Stop scheduling these FCS teams and saying you beat somebody.
 
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If you guys really think Bama and Fla are better wins than Indy and PennSt then you’re hopelessly biased and no point in further discussion…that’s before mentioning one of oh st wins were on the road the other a blowout and one of ours an ot win the other by 7 after trailing late
 
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volfanhill said:
I don't think either team has a right to biotch either way. Very even resumes. And I don't see UGA dropping if they lose in the SEC title game. The committee can not let schools be punished for conference championship losses. Otherwise the noise to make them go away increases. That's bad for business. Don't care what's happened in the past. New day new playoff new rules
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So, do you think Oregon stays ranked #1, Penn St #3, Texas #2, SMU #8, Boise St #10 and Arizona St wherever they end up tonight if they lose their championship games?
 
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Power_Sweep_Vol said:
If you guys really think Bama and Fla are better wins than Indy and PennSt then you’re hopelessly biased and no point in further discussion…that’s before mentioning one of oh st wins were on the road the other a blowout and one of ours an ot win the other by 7 after trailing late
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I'd bet all the money I could stand to lose that Alabama would beat Indiana or Penn St on THEIR field. If that makes me biased then so be it. The committee values record which is the only justified way that Penn St or Notre Dame can be considered better than Tennessee. Because they have 1 loss and never had to play Georgia on the road.

This is the same reason another loss suffered by Georgia would put them behind us and NOT being compared to Ohio State. Same goes with PSU and maybe even TX if Georgia beats them bad enough.
 
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onevol74 said:
Maybe next time UT will upgrade their OOC schedule so this is not a topic of conversation. Stop scheduling these FCS teams and saying you beat somebody.
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Nah they just need to play in the B10 and only have Oregon on your schedule and avoid playing all the other good teams. Then we could be 11-1 and nobody would doubt them
 
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UTFranklinVol said:
I'd bet all the money I could stand to lose that Alabama would beat Indiana or Penn St on THEIR field. If that makes me biased then so be it. The committee values record which is the only justified way that Penn St or Notre Dame can be considered better than Tennessee. Because they have 1 loss and never had to play Georgia on the road.

This is the same reason another loss suffered by Georgia would put them behind us and NOT being compared to Ohio State. Same goes with PSU and maybe even TX if Georgia beats them bad enough.
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Yes, that makes you biased, or something else, really. I mean they just got bit*slapped all over the field by 3 tds to crappy 6-6 Oklahoma but you’d bet every penny that they would beat 11-1 PennSt in happy valley, eh…a fool and his money are easily parted
 
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