UT or OSU for the 8-seed? (Data)

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Power_Sweep_Vol said:
If you guys really think Bama and Fla are better wins than Indy and PennSt then you’re hopelessly biased and no point in further discussion…that’s before mentioning one of oh st wins were on the road the other a blowout and one of ours an ot win the other by 7 after trailing late
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I have no doubt that bama would be favored over Penn St on a neutral field.
They would be favored by 10+ over Indy.

FL and Indy would be a pick-em on a neutral field.
 
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As long as we are referencing histrionics, in 2016 Penn St beat Ohio St head to head and beat #6 Wisconsin to win the Big 10 conference championship and was left out of the playoffs in favor of Ohio St.
 
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Our loss to an admittedly bad Arkansas team was on the road / early in the season / with a frosh QB.

Ohio state’s loss was a day game AT HOME to a very bad Michigan team as a 23.5 point favorite. A late season loss. And Michigan was without their best offensive player and defensive player.

Oregon / UGA losses are a wash to me.

But I fully expect UT to get a 9 seed tonight.

It’s arguable.
 
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Power_Sweep_Vol said:
Yes, that makes you biased, or something else, really. I mean they just got bit*slapped all over the field by 3 tds to crappy 6-6 Oklahoma but you’d bet every penny that they would beat 11-1 PennSt in happy valley, eh…a fool and his money are easily parted
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That 11-1 record is fools gold. PSU played ONE decent team the whole year and got blown out by the same team that could only score 10 points at home to Michigan.

If the committee is evaluating these teams the way you say they are where is the justification for having PSU so highly ranked and not having Indiana equally ranked? Go and look at PSUs schedule and tell me where the tough game was that they won?

Same goes for Notre Dame.

If Bama can beat Georgia and beat LSU at night in Death Valley I'm quite positive they could beat PSU anywhere anytime.
 
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Power_Sweep_Vol said:
Riley, Yurachek, Williams, Sayler, Pinkel, and Rhoades all have ties to the SEC...that's 1 more than your list
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Well, so does Paul Finebaum, and he’s had little regard for his alma mater over the decades. If your count holds true to the SEC, then Tennessee should host a game. If not, that’s life, that’s football.
 
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Bottom line is from top to bottom the sec is much better than the big 10. Once you get past the top 3-4 there is really no comparison. Tennessee has played a tougher schedule against more talent than Ohio State despite what some folks sitting in their big 10 Ivory Towers believe.
 
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Power_Sweep_Vol said:
Yes, that makes you biased, or something else, really. I mean they just got bit*slapped all over the field by 3 tds to crappy 6-6 Oklahoma but you’d bet every penny that they would beat 11-1 PennSt in happy valley, eh…a fool and his money are easily parted
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We might get to find out, if the committee sneaks Bama in and Penn St loses to Oregon.
 
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Power_Sweep_Vol said:
it's hard to understand how you read that and think, "yeah...the losers drop a couple of spots automatically".
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Well they wouldn’t move UP so the only options are stay the same or move down. If it was guaranteed that they wouldn’t move then they would say that they wouldn’t be punished. Since they explicitly didn’t say that, there’s really only one other option. They’ll move down, but how much will depend on how they perform (and might be none if it’s a really close game).
 
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Go47 said:
Our loss to an admittedly bad Arkansas team was on the road / early in the season / with a frosh QB.

Ohio state’s loss was a days game AT HOME to a very bad Michigan team as a 23.5 point favorite. A late season loss. And Michigan was without their best offensive player and defensive player.

Oregon / UGA losses are a wash to me.

But I fully expect UT to get a 9 seed tonight.

It’s arguable.
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Also, let's not forget that Ohio State has plainly stated their main objective coming into the season was beating Michigan and "getting that monkey off their back". It's not like they just overlooked an inferior team.
 
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Power_Sweep_Vol said:
Where do you rank Indiana?
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Indiana should be ranked right above Penn St. Both teams played nobody all year and they both lost to the same team. But Indiana lost in Columbus, home of the Michigan Wolverines and Penn St lost at home.

The real question is where should Penn St be ranked?


In fact Indiana beat Michigan at Michigan while Michigan beat OSU in Columbus.

So they should be ranked higher than OSU as well.
 
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Kas232323 said:
The fact you use Indiana as a real top 10 team in your argument tells me all I need to know about your stance.
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Where he ranks them, you rank them or I rank them doesn’t matter. What DOES matter is where the CFP Committee ranks them. They had them at #10 last week and they will likely be a spot or two higher this week. So they ARE a real top 10 team in the only opinions (and rankings) that matter as far as CFP seeding goes.

What Alabama or Georgia would or will do to them given the opportunity doesn’t matter. It’s all perception and opinion by those people in the room. And based on their opinion, Indiana and PSU are top 10 teams OSU has beaten.
 
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Woodlawn VOL said:
Bottom line is from top to bottom the sec is much better than the big 10. Once you get past the top 3-4 there is really no comparison. Tennessee has played a tougher schedule against more talent than Ohio State despite what some folks sitting in their big 10 Ivory Towers believe.
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I don't think the committee really cares about top to bottom quality. Maybe the 3 toughest opponents on each schedule and where your losses are.
 
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Tenacjim said:
Where he ranks them, you rank them or I rank them doesn’t matter. What DOES matter is where the CFP Committee ranks them. They had them at #10 last week and they will likely be a spot or two higher this week. So they ARE a real top 10 team in the only opinions (and rankings) that matter as far as CFP seeding goes.

What Alabama or Georgia would or will do to them given the opportunity doesn’t matter. It’s all perception and opinion by those people in the room. And based on their opinion, Indiana and PSU are top 10 teams OSU has beaten.
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Completely different from what I was discussing but thank you for your input.
 
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