Vaccine or not?

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NashVol11 said:
OK, then find me the guarantee you'd never get it or you're talking just to talk
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Find me the ad from 2021. You cant. You literally made the incorrect BS statement. You said that the marketing was about reducing severity if you caught it. It wasnt.

This is your standard go to EVERY F'ing time

Make BS statement
Get proven wrong
Try to obscure
Try to move goalposts
Still cant defend original statement
 
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utvolpj said:
All that ended up being wrong as well. There was no such thing as a breakthrough case as the vax never prevented anyone from getting it. Plenty of vaxxed have died from it as well
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Which is directly acknowledged toward the end of the exact post you quoted
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
Find me the ad from 2021. You cant. You literally made the incorrect BS statement.

This is your standard go to EVERY F'ing time

Make BS statement
Get proven wrong
Try to obscure
Try to move goalposts
Still cant defend original statement
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The original statement was that it wasn't marketed as a guarantee you'd never get COVID, and it wasn't. I keep asking you for said guarantee to "prove that wrong" and still haven't seen it. I didn't say the ads were ONLY about severity and not at all about transmission, you made that up yourself and have been talking in circles ever since
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
Find me the ad from 2021. You cant. You literally made the incorrect BS statement. You said that the marketing was about reducing severity if you caught it. It wasnt.

This is your standard go to EVERY F'ing time

Make BS statement
Get proven wrong
Try to obscure
Try to move goalposts
Still cant defend original statement
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"It wasn't marketed as a guarantee you'd never get COVID"
"You're WRONG"
"Ok then show me the guarantee"
"...well no, but you're WRONG and you ALWAYS DO THIS"

Alright lol
 
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NashVol11 said:
The original statement was that it wasn't marketed as a guarantee you'd never get COVID, and it wasn't. I keep asking you for said guarantee to "prove that wrong" and still haven't seen it. I didn't say the ads were ONLY about severity and not at all about transmission, you made that up yourself and have been talking in circles ever since
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You literally said the marketing was about reducing severity. No other qualifiers.That might not have been what you meant but that's what you said....

The fact that 2 of the more middle of the line posters are saying the same thing should give you pause to think you might be incorrect or miscommunicated.

The 2021 marketing was not about reducing severity. It was about ending transmission, community immunity, not catching it, and returning to normal. Ive posted half dozen examples.

The reducing severity was the marketing the past 2 years as it was clear the vax coukdnt reduce immunity.
 
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NashVol11 said:
"It wasn't marketed as a guarantee you'd never get COVID"
"You're WRONG"
"Ok then show me the guarantee"
"...well no, but you're WRONG and you ALWAYS DO THIS"

Alright lol
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I literally posted several ads that talked about community immunity. The POTUS said it. CNN ran stuff about it.

You are still moving the goalposts and still cant defend what you said.
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
I literally posted several ads that talked about community immunity. The POTUS said it. CNN ran stuff about it.

You are still moving the goalposts and still cant defend what you said.
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The goalposts have been "it was not a guarantee that you wouldn't get COVID" the entire time. I don't need to defend it because it was never refuted in the first place, because there were always people catching COVID after being vaccinated
 
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NashVol11 said:
The goalposts have been "it was not a guarantee that you wouldn't get COVID" the entire time. I don't need to defend it because it was never refuted in the first place
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No, you made that shat up. You made the original claim, me and pj provided multiple levels of proof, you moved goalposts and pj still provided proof after you moved them
 
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Public statement from the guy in charge.

“You’re not going to get COVID if you have these vaccinations"

He did not retract it. This was the public stance of the Biden administration for a period of time.
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
Public statement from the guy in charge.

“You’re not going to get COVID if you have these vaccinations"

He did not retract it. This was the public stance of the Biden administration for a period of time.
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Come on. Everyone immediately said he was wrong and he acknowledged that same day that people can still get it after being vaccinated
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Even when Biden went too far in 2021, everyone still said the exact same thing I'm saying



Including Biden himself:
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NashVol11 said:
Come on. Everyone immediately said he was wrong and he acknowledged that same day that people can still get it after being vaccinated
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Bull. We might have known but most of the American public didnt. The most he got was limp wristed fact checks from a complicit media that said a tiny % might see a breakthrough.

He got no pants on fire ratings at that point.
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
So, you going to show the same grace to Trump the next time he exaggerates a point?

We both know the answer to that.
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Yes, I've always said the "injecting bleach" storyline was stupid. But don't let that stop you from arguing with my imaginary position that you made up for me
 
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NashVol11 said:
Yes, I've always said the "injecting bleach" storyline was stupid. But don't let that stop you from arguing with things you made up yourself
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Still havent proved that 2021 marketing was about reducing severity.....your words, not mine.

You made the statement
You couldnt prove it
You moved the goalposts
Pj plus the ads shown still proved it after you moved it
You are still tripling down

At least the right wing hacks know to stop digging after they realize what they post is incorrect
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
Still havent proved that 2021 marketing was about reducing severity.....your words, not mine.

You made the statement
You couldnt prove it
You moved the goalposts
Pj plus the ads shown still proved it after you moved it
You are still tripling down

At least the right wing hacks know to stop digging after they realize what they post is incorrect
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I didn’t say the marketing was silent on transmission or focused exclusively on symptom severity, and you keep having to cut off the actual conclusion of my post about the guarantee so you can keep arguing about irrelevant **** instead and then claim I’M moving the goalposts lol
 
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NashVol11 said:
Like this is explicitly, textbook, moving the goalposts. Arguing just to argue. What are we doing here
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You still cant prove original marketing was about reducing severity. That was your statement.

You are still trying to move the goalposts to cover up the fact you are so insecure you cant admit you were wrong....
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
You still cant prove original marketing was about reducing severity. That was your statement.

You are still trying to move the goalposts to cover up the fact you are so insecure you cant admit you were wrong....
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No it wasn’t. My statement was a full sentence that you misinterpreted and keep cutting off halfway because you want to argue
 
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