Vaccine or not?

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So get J&J. J&J is viral vector technology. Been around for years. People just wanna find any reason to not get it.
Same thing though on development. Vaccines typically take years to develop. Covid was a few months. Pfizer, Moderna, and J&J. There’s history and decades of use behind a flu shot. Not Covid.

50 years from now if some govt official wants to mandate a medical staff requirement for a Covid shot you probably won’t see much concern if there are no issues in the next several years with a Covid shot.
 
Where the mandate fails legally IMO is that if the virus falls under a "significant risk" to employees which gives OSHA the authority why doesn't it pose a significant risk to employees in companies with just 99 employees. The only OSHA regulation I know of based on company size deals with record-keeping, nothing about a specific safety standard.
The size of the company doesn’t seem particularly relevant to the risk to me, either.

Number of workers in a given location would be relevant, as the piece says, but that doesn’t seem to be what they’re talking about.
 
The size of the company doesn’t seem particularly relevant to the risk to me, either.

Number of workers in a given location would be relevant, as the piece says, but that doesn’t seem to be what they’re talking about.

Exactly and the simple fact that no other OSHA regulation (that I know of) other than record keeping makes any distinction on number of employees.
 
What again does the "vax" do? Does it prevent acquiring or spreading. Nope.

Oh and... Exploring the binding efficacy of ivermectin against the key proteins of SARS-CoV-2 pathogenesis: an in silico approach

And because you won't read (or can't comprehend), here is the straight dope:

"While the pandemic is spreading faster than wildfires, the unavailability of ratified drugs and or vaccine against the same has made the situation more alarming. In this context, recent studies on the use of hydroxychloroquine (an antimalarial drug) in combination with the antibiotic azithromycin [11] and antiretroviral drugs like remdesivir, EIDD-2801 or favipiravir have shown effectiveness against SARS-CoV-2 [12]. Based on this, ivermectin has been recently reported as the most active agent against COVID-19 among the US FDA-approved drugs in vitro trial [13]. Ivermectin is a macrocyclic lactone natively used to treat a broad spectrum of parasitic infestations including lymphatic filariasis and onchocerciasis [14]. Interestingly, a recent study claims that the drug inhibits the replication of SARS-CoV-2 in in vitro condition and can reduce the spread of the virus by approximately 5000-times within 48 h while being tested in vitro using primate cell lines [13]. Considering the therapeutic promise of ivermectin against COVID-19 [15], the present study has been conducted to represent the efficacy of this drug against the four most crucial functional proteins of SARS-CoV-2 using advanced biocomputational approaches."

In our Cochrane Review,3 we assessed the identical set of trials. However, only 4 of the 15 trials included in Bryant’s meta-analysis on mortality met our predefined eligibility criteria, and our conclusion, incorporating careful grading of the certainty of evidence, reveals a less rosy picture. The bottom line demonstrates an important uncertainty whether ivermectin compared with placebo or standard of care reduces or increases mortality in moderately ill hospitalised patients (RR 0.60, 95% CI 0.14 to 2.51; two studies) and mildly ill outpatients (RR 0.33, 95% CI 0.01 to 8.05; two studies), due to serious risk of bias and imprecision. How do the different assessments come about? The answer lies partly in the baseline data of included studies. Bryant et al pooled heterogeneous patient populations, interventions, comparators and outcomes. In other words, they compare apples and oranges, serving a large bowl of a colourful fruit salad. Usually, pooling of heterogeneous studies increases imprecision of effects in meta-analyses. Why does this not apply to ivermectin? Its alleged effect is driven by studies where the effect size is extremely positive, which has influenced the conclusions in other reviews. One of these studies with a huge effect has now been retracted over ethical concern.4

Evidence syntheses must be pieces of the highest trustworthiness. However, reliability is at risk when researchers publish problematic trials or misuse established evidence assessment tools as a guise for quality of evidence synthesis in general, but especially during a pandemic, by trying to create pseudotrustworthiness for substances that cannot be considered effective and safe treatment options nor game changers, at this stage.

Evidence on the efficacy of ivermectin for COVID-19: another story of apples and oranges

The jury is still out on its effectiveness clinically
 
Identity politics and public health don’t mix well. Nobody was up in arms when basically every HC facility in America required their employees either get an annual flu shot or required masking if they opted out of the shot. Its been that way as long as I’ve been in healthcare, and we all knew it was for the benefit of our patients. So can we just stop acting like babies about it?

I didn’t know the flu was just like Covid and the flu vaccine had only been approved for a month or two.
 
Has anyone seen any science that the testing option is based on? Is there data that shows weekly testing is the right interval to catch, for instance, 75% or 85% or 95% of cases?
 
"and OSHA has long regulated "biological agents," including viruses. OSHA has standards and guidances that apply to exposures to various biological agents in laboratories and years ago adopted bloodborne pathogen standards that focus on controlling workplace exposure to Hepatitis B (including by requiring employers to make vaccination available at no cost to the employee). And even if a contagious disease were not considered a biological "agent," a newly emergent disease or disease variant could well be a "new danger.""

Seems a far cry from what is going on.

1. Most of america doesnt work in labs, where there is a very specifc threat of exposure to all types of things.
2. All they require is that vaccines are provided, that's already taken care of.
3. OSHA typically deals with specifc threats. Like working in a lab mentioned above. Even in my industry hard hats are only required in certain conditions.
4. Many many things are far more of a threat than Covid. And while there are some protections required, there hasnt been an established doctrine of requiring untested vaccines being required. And before you push Comirnaty, find me place where you can actually get it. And also deal that the requirements will accept the non licensed versions.

Osha is kinda the perfect example of what this is all about. 10 guys standing around the one guy working for safety. Same thing with the Covid mandates.
 
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Does science say to vaccinate those with more protected natural immunity?
Since Fauci doesn't even have an answer for this, I'm certain nobody on TikTok has figured it out.

@OHvol40 and I appear to have agreed on the issue. Haven't heard anything from the Socialists, yet.
 
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If anyone is interested, this is the broad-reaching study that I see quoted in articles like the one above. 200-ish cases in Kentucky in 2 months is the sample size. Oh and 2x as likely compared to what? LOL.

Reduced Risk of Reinfection with SARS-CoV-2 After COVID-19 Vaccination — Kentucky, May–June 2021

In a massive study from Israel, the protection after natural infection was something like 99.75%, and additional vaccination raised it to like 99.85%. Remember: most of those are asymptomatic. There was no difference in "symptomatic" cases.
 
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