Vaccine or not?

[MAD]

 

[DuckInAPen]

Can’t say they died from the vaccine but they were healthy before the second dose was administered. And yes one was 16 the other was 60.

Thanks very much for the clarification, vol445. God rest their souls. Again, my apologies for reading your post so carelessly and replying so flippantly.

 

[Sea Ray]

Don't know if this study was reported here on VN but turns out, it was bogus:

A preprint study first published on MedRxiv that claimed a 1 in 1,000 risk of contracting myocarditis from a COVID-19 vaccination has been withdrawn due to miscalculations.
MedRxiv is a website that publishes studies that have yet to be peer-reviewed, according to Reuters.
The study was first published on September 16 and conducted by researchers at The University of Ottawa Heart Institute. It was widely used to promote the idea that the COVID-19 vaccine is unsafe for use.

• The COVID-19 is safe to get, and there is more risk of getting myocarditis from COVID-19 than the jab.

Study saying COVID-19 vaccines cause heart inflammation that was hyped by anti-vaxxers, withdrawn due to miscalculation

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Staggering Number Of US Troops Remain Unvaccinated As Deadlines Approach | ZeroHedge

The Navy has been most compliant with President Biden's July edict that the nation's 2.1 million troops take the jab. According to the report, 98% of active duty seamen have gotten at least one shot, while 90% are fully vaccinated. That's in stark contrast to the Marines, where just 72% are fully vaccinated. Meanwhile, over 60,000 Air Force personnel have just three weeks to meet the DoD's Nov. 2 deadline.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Don't know if this study was reported here on VN but turns out, it was bogus:

Study saying COVID-19 vaccines cause heart inflammation that was hyped by anti-vaxxers, withdrawn due to miscalculation

That's one study. There are plenty of others that confirm the allegation.

 

[0nelilreb]

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Good point .. Covid has over a 99% survival rate , why are you so worried about people not wanting or getting a Vax ?

 

[BP4Prez]

Don't know if this study was reported here on VN but turns out, it was bogus:






Study saying COVID-19 vaccines cause heart inflammation that was hyped by anti-vaxxers, withdrawn due to miscalculation

Is there really any questioning that some people are having heart issues following the vaccine? Is it rare? Sure but it’s prevalent. I personally know a 19 year old college athlete currently wearing a heart monitor following it.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Loving the liberal kings of hypocrisy

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

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Hmmm I get what you were trying to get at but failed miserably. There is a nation wide nursing shortage. But hey keep on pushing your cult beliefs though.

 

[DynaLo]

How many were dying without it?
We’ve lost over 700k unvaccinated to Covid.
That 7k could have been another 700k

So you number shows we’ve had around 400,000 die of Covid in 2021 since the shots became available?

From the CDC: Jan-Dec 2020

During 2020, COVID-19 was listed as the underlying or contributing cause of (377,883) deaths.

2020 Heart disease (690,882) deaths
(2019: 659,041)

2020 Cancer (598,932) deaths
(2019: 599,601)

 

[VolinWayne]

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[Orangeslice13]

So you number shows we’ve had around 400,000 die of Covid in 2021 since the shots became available?

From the CDC: Jan-Dec 2020

During 2020, COVID-19 was listed as the underlying or contributing cause of (377,883) deaths.

2020 Heart disease (690,882) deaths
(2019: 659,041)

2020 Cancer (598,932) deaths
(2019: 599,601)

I’m glad that heart disease and cancer are not contagious.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

I’m glad that heart disease and cancer are not contagious.

And I am glad Chinese Flu isn't a death sentence

 

[Orangeslice13]

And I am glad Chinese Flu isn't a death sentence

As long as we’re playing apples to oranges…..neither is heart disease and cancer.
6 months and the red women is considered healed from liver cancer.

 

[Orangeslice13]

In fact my dad’s been on a pacemaker for 18 years. He probably should not have gotten that as there are people who die from getting them.

 

[DynaLo]

I’m glad that heart disease and cancer are not contagious.

Covid was the underlying or contributing cause...

With lung cancer as the leading type of cancer death I’d imagine that standard hospital protocol of venting already damaged lungs and giving a medicine known to have a renal failure/edema side effect worked out just peachy.

Has anyone paused to wonder how many of that 377k would have died in 2020 regardless of Covid due to their existing health conditions and Covid just exacerbated already diminished health, speeding up the end of their earthly presence?

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

I’m glad that heart disease and cancer are not contagious.

But they are mostly preventable... and a leading comorbidity for a lot of the people that are hospitalized and/or dying from COVID.

Yet no mention or strong effort is made in regards to diet and exercise (not that I am for govt intervention in those areas, I'm simply highlighting the hypocrisy).

 

[Rickyvol77]

There are yahoos on Twitter urging SW employees to "hold the line" (assuming this is really the reason for the canceled flights) and I'm wondering how many days of their own missed flights they'd be willing to endure before concluding this is dumb.

And leftists and unions are saying this is fake news and it’s just weather related.

 

[AshG]

Has anyone paused to wonder how many of that 377k would have died in 2020 regardless of Covid due to their existing health conditions and Covid just exacerbated already diminished health, speeding up the end of their earthly presence?

That was one of the first metrics to be studied as the pandemic started rolling, and is monitored continuously.

Excess mortality during the Coronavirus pandemic (COVID-19) - Statistics and Research

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

In fact my dad’s been on a pacemaker for 18 years. He probably should not have gotten that as there are people who die from getting them.

Who forced him to get it? Was his livelihood threatened if he didn't do it? Or was it a conscious decision HE made concerning HIS health after weighing the risks? But I am sure by him getting it, he saved countless other lives... right?

 

[Wafflestomper]

Who forced him to get it? Was his livelihood threatened if he didn't do it? Or was it a conscious decision HE made concerning HIS health after weighing the risks? But I am sure by him getting it, he saved countless other lives... right?

Where have you guys been for the war on drugs?

 

[VolinWayne]

So apparantly digital passports that are block chain based are to be the new norm??? So eventually will this mean that those of us who refuse the jab will be limited in what we can purchase


Digital documentation of COVID-19 certificates: vaccination status: technical specifications and implementation guidance, 27 August 2021



Below is a description in one of the patents that has been filed.
CRYPTOCURRENCY SYSTEM USING BODY ACTIVITY DATA
Abstract
Human body activity associated with a task provided to a user may be used in a mining process of a cryptocurrency system. A server may provide a task to a device of a user which is communicatively coupled to the server. A sensor communicatively coupled to or comprised in the device of the user may sense body activity of the user. Body activity data may be generated based on the sensed body activity of the user. The cryptocurrency system communicatively coupled to the device of the user may verify if the body activity data satisfies one or more conditions set by the cryptocurrency system, and award cryptocurrency to the user whose body activity data is verified.

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/patent/search/family/067396975/publication/WO2020060606A1?q=WO2020060606 &queryLang=en:de:fr

 

[DynaLo]

That was one of the first metrics to be studied as the pandemic started rolling, and is monitored continuously.

Excess mortality during the Coronavirus pandemic (COVID-19) - Statistics and Research

Thanks, I hadn’t seen that.
I do however wonder how death certificate causes of death are being verified for accuracy in listing death from Covid or death with Covid as a contributing cause. The CDC has already had to make a reporting numbers adjustment in those designations.
The 2021 numbers will be a goat rope especially if they insist on vaxxed/unvaxxed distinctions due to that two week open window until fully vaxxed status is reached.
Suspiciously absent is the partially vaxxed category which should be covering those with only one out of two shots and those in that two week window after the second shot. When boosters become widespread will everyone with shots now be unvaxxed until two weeks after the booster shots?

It’s quite simply a clown world of absurdity via stats manipulation and goal post moving.

 

[DynaLo]

Where have you guys been for the war on drugs?

Teaching my children don’t do drugs and suggesting the same to their friends but understanding that adults have the FREE WILL to make their own CHOICES as to what SUBSTANCES toxic or healthy that they put in THEIR OWN BODIES.

 

[DynaLo]

So apparantly digital passports that are block chain based are to be the new norm??? So eventually will this mean that those of us who refuse the jab will be limited in what we can purchase


Digital documentation of COVID-19 certificates: vaccination status: technical specifications and implementation guidance, 27 August 2021
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Below is a description in one of the patents that has been filed.
CRYPTOCURRENCY SYSTEM USING BODY ACTIVITY DATA
Abstract
Human body activity associated with a task provided to a user may be used in a mining process of a cryptocurrency system. A server may provide a task to a device of a user which is communicatively coupled to the server. A sensor communicatively coupled to or comprised in the device of the user may sense body activity of the user. Body activity data may be generated based on the sensed body activity of the user. The cryptocurrency system communicatively coupled to the device of the user may verify if the body activity data satisfies one or more conditions set by the cryptocurrency system, and award cryptocurrency to the user whose body activity data is verified.

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/patent/search/family/067396975/publication/WO2020060606A1?q=WO2020060606 &queryLang=en:de:fr

I hope everyone has been gathering items to use for bartering in the alternate economic system once cash is killed. Black market is going to be huge again.