Vaccine or not?

[NorthDallas40]

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Thank you. Guess I just needed to be patient in the questions.

 

[Orange_Vol1321]

Not really. Mine was very positive literally 2 hours after I had any symptoms. Around half the tests we've been running at the office are positive. However, there have been several times when one sibling is positive and the other is negative, and they have the same symptoms, so who knows? I've just been treating the other as a "presumptive positive" and telling them to stay home and watch Disney+ for five days.

I know a single lady with three kids that was positive back early January. While the kids did quarantine from school, they never got it.

 

[NorthDallas40]

That's in the nucleocapsid protein, which is what most antigen tests look for. Spike protein from vaccination could give false positives if the antigen tests used that target.

Yep saw your next post. Understood thx.

 

[NurseGoodVol]

That's a fair point. What long term damage from the vaccine is theoretically possible and when is it likely to appear? What is the estimated probability? We're in the second year of mass vaccinations and so far so good.

Mm we started vaccinations in dec 2020. 14 months ago. How long does it take to initiate inappropriate rna protein folding? Since it’s an mRNA therapy the probability is anyone who’s has the shot. Inappropriately folded RNA proteins go by another name…prions. It can take years to see the effects.

 

[NurseGoodVol]

So the shot will have some kind of long term effect years after it has left the system but the virus won’t? They both hijack cells to create spike proteins and then our immune system detects them and destroys them. I think if the spike protein causes long term damage then we are all screwed.

Shots are passed by the FDA as a whole product, they are not tested for their singular ingredients. Some ingredients never leave the body. Aluminum for example.
Nano lipid proteins are synthetic. They still haven’t disclosed all the ingredients or singularly tested them.
I’m not saying anything I haven’t before and people joke about it daily, this was man made GOF virus. The spike protein was made to kill people, if you are lucky enough to survive that then there could be long term effects. If they change the playbook from a new deadly GOF virus every 4 years to 2 years then we are screwed. It’s taken 2 years for some people to catch on to what’s happening and some still haven’t.

 

[NurseGoodVol]

That doesn't answer my question. The claim was that vaccinated are getting it at a higher rate. Where is that data?

In this thread. Like 60 pages ago.

 

[Orangeslice13]

That doesn't answer my question. The claim was that vaccinated are getting it at a higher rate. Where is that data?

Debunked.
It’s not true

 

[Orange_Vol1321]

The same people that believes in depopulation now want to save everyone with a shot.

 

[davethevol]

Well, Joe Rogan is done. They weren’t going to let up until they could destroy his career.
Spotify Removes 70 Episodes of ‘Joe Rogan Experience’; Podcast Host Apologizes for Using N-Word

 

[kiddiedoc]

Well, Joe Rogan is done. They weren’t going to let up until they could destroy his career.
Spotify Removes 70 Episodes of ‘Joe Rogan Experience’; Podcast Host Apologizes for Using N-Word

The Ministry of Truth is more powerful than any of us want to imagine.

Scary, scary stuff.

 

[Orange_Vol1321]

Well, Joe Rogan is done. They weren’t going to let up until they could destroy his career.
Spotify Removes 70 Episodes of ‘Joe Rogan Experience’; Podcast Host Apologizes for Using N-Word

Option puts 9:30 am Monday on SPOT
Easy $$

 

[kiddiedoc]

It would be worth everyone -- on every side of every issue -- to remember: once they take a Liberty away, they are not going to give it back.

 

[Matt2496]

Well, Joe Rogan is done. They weren’t going to let up until they could destroy his career.
Spotify Removes 70 Episodes of ‘Joe Rogan Experience’; Podcast Host Apologizes for Using N-Word

They're going to end up removing Joe Rogan entirely due to pressure from the mob.

 

[davethevol]

It would be worth everyone -- on every side of every issue -- to remember: once they take a Liberty away, they are not going to give it back.

They have no intention to end the mandates in Knox County Schools. Parents tell judge Knox County Schools is flouting COVID-19 mask rule

It will take much more than people simply speaking out or refusing to wear masks at this point.

 

[VolStrom]

They're going to end up removing Joe Rogan entirely due to pressure from the mob.

While I've never listened to one of his podcasts, I'd venture a guess that none of the cancel culture people have either. The days are coming that these left wing groups are going to be countered by more right wing moderate companies. Left wing idiots aren't the only ones that know how to write code.

 

[rjd970]

It’s sad that the JRE stuff has been so politicized. Nothing he is saying is harmful or intentionally spreading misinformation. I doubt many of those cancelling him have even listened to the podcasts in question. This whole thing is past the point of dumb.

So so so ready for everybody to move on from this. It’s been 2 years now. Find something else to get upset about.

 

[Orange_Vol1321]

@kiddiedoc This lady does great research and dug in to the difference in the two different Pfizer vaccines. She made this to someone saying the Pfizer vaccine in the US had FDA approval just like some on here you had a discussion with.

 

[norrislakevol]

It's not splitting hairs to ask the poster to back their claim that
it is a completely separate claim than the other being discussed

Because, based on recent hospitalization data, if that's true then it gives support to the claim that the vax reduces serious illness. That would be inconvenient

It may have been another thread, but yes, I did point out that it appears that the vax can help reduce serious illness if you are within the window of being infected before it begins to wain (3 to 6 months). However, the vaccinated can catch the virus just as easily and spread it just as easily. That was my point in this particular instance. I am of the firm belief that young, healthy people need nothing to do with this vaccine. The data that a whistle blower leaked form the department of defense over serious reproductive issues with active military members means that the jab just isn't worth it at all unless you are an older or vulnerable individual. It's just common sense.

 

[norrislakevol]

That's interesting. I don't see it on CDC's site. Where can I find that?

Can fully vaccinated people spread the omicron variant to others? What the CDC says

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v...longer_prevent_you_from_spreading_covid.html#!

'80% of serious COVID cases are fully vaccinated' says Ichilov hospital director

The last one I posted bears watching. We will see what the future holds, but generally speaking, it is almost impossible to generate an effective vaccine that works for heavy mutators like coronaviruses and flu viruses.

 

[kiddiedoc]

I found the Pfizer Summary Basis from 11/8/21. The lady in the video is exactly right:

COMIRNATY and BNT162b2 (V8) have identical amino acid sequences of the encoded antigens but COMIRNATY includes the presence of optimized codons to improve antigen expression.

Anyone want to argue again that they are the same thing?

 

[ButchPlz]

They're going to end up removing Joe Rogan entirely due to pressure from the mob.

Yeah but what ****ing mob is it? It's a loud, obnoxious, low-IQ minority that failed to evolve beyond simian status.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

That's a fair point. What long term damage from the vaccine is theoretically possible and when is it likely to appear? What is the estimated probability? We're in the second year of mass vaccinations and so far so good.

So far so good?

 

[VolinWayne]

 

[EasternVol]

So far so good?

So far there's nothing to indicate the jab is worse than the virus.

 

[kiddiedoc]

I had some time to read several of the Pfizer documents today. Here's an interesting chart: