Vaccine or not?

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Vjcvette said:
Well then you need to alert the medical community as soon as possible that "You" have all of the correct stats and let them know about it.
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The stats are right there and they absolutely are aware of what they represent. I took them from their studies and data. What happens is they use intentionally misleading language in the how that people like you pass it along. Now, if you change the A to THE while song so you've created a lie based on that data. A lie you may not even realize was created and then you'll pass it to others who think you understand what you're talking about. You're basically playing telephone with people's lives and should really stop.
 
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Vjcvette said:
Ok, I cannot change anything that the CDC says, or the AMA or any of the Scientist or their thinking....
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What you can do is to quit repeating their nonsense. Quit regurgitating useless statements that science has shown to be false. Start to care more about a child's actual safety than buying into a narrative used to make money.
 
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utvolpj said:
The stats are right there and they absolutely are aware of what they represent. I took them from their studies and data. What happens is they use intentionally misleading language in the how that people like you pass it along. Now, if you change the A to THE while song so you've created a lie based on that data. A lie you may not even realize was created and then you'll pass it to others who think you understand what you're talking about. You're basically playing telephone with people's lives and should really stop.
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When you become a Scientist.....let me know
 
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VolinWayne said:
Sadly that does not sound crasy at all. I hate to hear you guys have had health issues. A very good friend of mine was forced (against his will) to get the jab due to the mandate for Fereral employees. Since he got the shot it seems like every time I speak to him he is sick with either covid or something else.
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I found after I got the jab (Army), that I would have been ok to not get it (my retirement date). I wish I would have known beforehand, I would not have gotten the shot.
 
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Vjcvette said:
And where are you a Scientist at?
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You dont have to be a scientist to look at the data as presented. If the scientists are telling the truth it should be easy to back up with their own data. yet you refuse to even look at the actual data, even when presented.
 
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Here's what cannot be disputed: The FDA has not yet given this full approval. The reason for that is likely because they don't have the data yet. If data is lacking then why is the CDC putting it on this list a vaccinations for kids? I think they ought to say the data is incomplete and they'll wait until the FDA fully approves it before making a judgment.
 
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LouderVol said:
We are in the PF.

1. the government is still pushing the vaccines.
2. The truth is coming out, that the government/pharma knew things not made public in order to push the vaccines. Anyone, regardless of vaccine status, should not be ok with the government lying to us. If we dont admit we have a problem, government lying, it will never get fixed.
3. With the lies coming out, and the cover up of the side effects people's lives were harmed by unelected government officials. At the very least we need to drastically reevaluate how these government officials can act going forward, and punish those responsible. If it was anyone else besides the government and their pay masters, look at who funds these decision makers, they would be in jail.
4. We will potentially see the ramifications of these actions for the rest of our lives. Some people here arent the typical American who gets distracted with every knew emergency, why should we let it go?
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I suppose that could be it, but I haven’t seen discussion of any potential side effect that wasn’t known to me before I got the third shot in October 2021. But the post is still elucidating. Thank you.
 
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RockyTop85 said:
I suppose that could be it, but I haven’t seen discussion of any potential side effect that wasn’t known to me before I got the third shot in October 2021. But the post is still elucidating. Thank you.
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The issue now is that the push has turned toward babies and children. This shot with no long term data is being pushed into their bodies and they're using schools to do it. Our kids are being sacrificed for money and too many are just ok with it
 
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RockyTop85 said:
I suppose that could be it, but I haven’t seen discussion of any potential side effect that wasn’t known to me before I got the third shot in October 2021. But the post is still elucidating. Thank you.
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But not known before the first two. That's the problem.

The government/pharmas didnt come in and hedge the unknowns. They flat out came out and said it was safe and effective, and went out of their way to ridicule and punish those who didnt buy in.

If from the start vaccines had been a suggestion with the qualifier that it wasnt fully tested yet, but they were still recommended, then fine. They did everything they could to make sure they were required, that there were no qualifiers, and that the testing was done to a good enough point. To this day in this thread we have a poster that refuses to admit things may not have been on the up and up from day 1.

The impact of that line of thinking and blind trust in the government is worthy of discussion on a political board.
 
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utvolpj said:
You run in here, whine about being mistreated yet won't offer anything of substance to back your ridiculous posts. What's your goal?

Present data to back your assertion or quit whining
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I present data......from the AMA and CDC but you do not like their stats
 
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YankeeVol said:
I found after I got the jab (Army), that I would have been ok to not get it (my retirement date). I wish I would have known beforehand, I would not have gotten the shot.
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Yeah that kind of sucks if you would have preferred to not get it. My mother-in-law developed a pretty serious rash after she got her first shot and her doctor said she absolutely should not consider getting any of the booster shots. My doctor questioned me about my decision but then she admitted that she wouldn't recommend it for somebody as healthy as myself
 
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