Vaccine or not?

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#23,755
kiddiedoc said:
Early on, we were assured that spike protein did not enter circulation and migrate/deposit in other sites/organs. It's quite evident now that was untrue. It would be really nice to know how much is found in tissues such as the myocardium, blood vessels, brain, etc and what (if any) histological changes are occurring, through post-mortem pathology.
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And we still don't know how long spike proteins are produced. Days? Weeks? Months? Years? I may also depend on the person. Some people.....probably the majority of people.....will likely see little to no negative side effects. But some certainly have. Not worth the gamble. Just like smoking. Most smokers will never get lung cancer, but 10 to 15 percent will. Worth the gamble? I think not.
 
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Have y’all seen/ read about some of the blood clots that some Morticians are pulling out of bodies during embalming? Just one more reason why the Vax is probably a bad idea
 
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evillawyer said:
Current data from NYC on vaxxed vs. unvaxxed case and hospitalization rate:

Cases by vaccination status
7-day averages as of Nov. 19

Cases of COVID-19 per 100k vaccinated people17.2
Cases of COVID-19 per 100k unvaccinated people163
Hospitalizations by vaccination status
7-day averages as of Nov. 19

Hospitalizations per 100k vaccinated people1
Hospitalizations per 100k unvaccinated people6.5
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A year of covid without the shot makes your stats irrelevant.

edit: to quick to read missed the dates.
 
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NurseGoodVol said:
A year of covid without the shot makes your stats irrelevant.
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I'm not sure what you are trying to say. It's comparing reported COVID cases and hospitalizations in NYC for a specific week in November 2022. It's a relevant but incomplete analysis (see below)...

I believe that one should not place much stock in 1 weeks worth of info from an unabashedly liberal city. If this trend continues and is corroborated throughout the country, then yes....
 
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VolinWayne said:
There is a lot more to that story. The parents actually did their own research and found multiple blood donors who were unvaccinated. Now I admit, I do not know the logistics of the hospital accessing this blood but it's pretty pathetic that parents who desire blood from unvaccinated donors for their 6 month old child is not being granted. The way they came and took the baby from them was pretty pathetic.
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Jehovah witness deny blood period. They still have open heart.
Those donors could have had a cross and type with the babies blood for compatibility and given pre-surgery. It’s just easier to take a baby from parents who have legitimate concerns.
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
I'm not sure what you are trying to say. It's comparing reported COVID cases and hospitalizations in NYC for a specific week in November 2022. It's a relevant but incomplete analysis (see below)...

I believe that one should not place much stock in 1 weeks worth of info from an unabashedly liberal city. If this trend continues and is corroborated throughout the country, then yes....
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Here's where I'm getting my data. As you can see, this is not just a weird week. It's been this level of difference for a long time.

COVID-19: Latest Data - NYC Health
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
I'm not sure what you are trying to say. It's comparing reported COVID cases and hospitalizations in NYC for a specific week in November 2022. It's a relevant but incomplete analysis (see below)...

I believe that one should not place much stock in 1 weeks worth of info from an unabashedly liberal city. If this trend continues and is corroborated throughout the country, then yes....
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See my edit.. I missed the dates.
 
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So.... what is the problem? Why does it have to be limited to just C-19? It should be as broad as possible in order to address any future cases, right?

Montana Law That Bars COVID-19 Vaccine Mandates In Health Care Settings Is Unconstitutional: Judge | ZeroHedge

Law Fails to Deal Specifically With COVID-19
State Attorney General Austin Knudsen and Department of Labor Commissioner Laurie Esau were named as defendants in the lawsuit.

The lawsuit goes on to state that the law passed in 2021 failed to distinguish between vaccines and did not deal specifically with COVID-19, instead encompassing “all vaccines whether for measles, mumps, rubella, tetanus, diphtheria, pertussis, hepatitis, or flu.”

This, in turn, plaintiffs argue, “caused critical concerns for health care providers whether hospitals, doctor’s offices or other medical facilities by limiting the ability of such providers to know the vaccination status of patients and employees.”

Plaintiffs also argue that the law “preemptively precludes health care providers and other employers from knowing the vaccination status of employees or patients if the employee or patient refuses to answer any inquiry about vaccination status or immunity passports.”

“That situation, for any number of reasons, creates untoward problems for healthcare providers of any description in trying to protect the environment where services to patients are rendered and to prevent the spread of diseases,” the lawsuit states.
 
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Findings of German pathologist Prof. Arne Burkhardt, a notable pioneer in the histological investigation of tissue/cell damage from m-RNA injections. We've translated his most recent seminar in subtitled video format plus a transcript.

Part 1 with translation subtitles
Prof. Arne Burkhardt - 2nd Conference on Vaccine Adverse Events Sept 18 2022 - Part 1

Part 2 with translation subtitles
Prof. Arne Burkhardt - 2nd Conference on Vaccine Adverse Events Sept 18 2022 - Part 2


PDF translation
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Arne Burkhardt, German pathologist, researcher. Certified in medicine University Kiel, Germany; certified pathologist University Hamburg. Recipient Konjetzny prize Cancer Liga Hamburg, 1980. Member International Association Oral Pathologists (councilor 1992-1996). Doctor of Medicine, University Munich, 1971. Privatdozent, University Hamburg, Germany, 1979. Professor, University Bern, Switzerland, 1988. cientific assistant University Heidelberg, Germany, 1970-1973, University Hamburg, 1973-1980. Senior pathologist University Bern, 1980-1991. Head department pathology Lehrkrankenhaus University Tübingen, Reutlingen, Germany, since 1991.
 
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In 2020 (before vaccine), there was 985,572 deaths in Germany. In 2021, there was 1,023,723 deaths or an increase of 38,151.

In 2020, there were 34,413 COVID deaths in Germany. In 2021, there were 78,108 deaths from COVID in Germany.

In 2021, excluding COVID, there were 945,615 deaths. In 2018 and 2019, there were 954,874 and 939,520 deaths, respectively.

Another right wing "data analysis" easily debunked.....
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
In 2020 (before vaccine), there was 985,572 deaths in Germany. In 2021, there was 1,023,723 deaths or an increase of 38,151.

In 2020, there were 34,413 COVID deaths in Germany. In 2021, there were 78,108 deaths from COVID in Germany.

In 2021, excluding COVID, there were 945,615 deaths. In 2018 and 2019, there were 954,874 and 939,520 deaths, respectively.

Another right wing "data analysis" easily debunked.....
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How many died with Covid instead of from Covid? If you’re in a single car accident and die and test positive with Covid it kind of skews the statistics.
 
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C-south said:
How many died with Covid instead of from Covid? If you’re in a single car accident and die and test positive with Covid it kind of skews the statistics.
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That's why I compared it to 2020 when you would have the same "died from/died with" debate. That's apples to apples.

Given that most of the people who died were over 60 (95%), the "car accident" people dying with COVID aren't skewing the numbers much...
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
That's why I compared it to 2020 when you would have the same "died from/died with" debate. That's apples to apples.

Given that most of the people who died were over 60 (95%), the "car accident" people dying with COVID aren't skewing the numbers much...
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Yea, just like there were no flu cases for 2 years.
 
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BigOrangeMojo Clearly > Arne Burkhardt, German pathologist, researcher. Certified in medicine University Kiel, Germany; certified pathologist University Hamburg. Recipient Konjetzny prize Cancer Liga Hamburg, 1980. Member International Association Oral Pathologists (councilor 1992-1996). Doctor of Medicine, University Munich, 1971. Privatdozent, University Hamburg, Germany, 1979. Professor, University Bern, Switzerland, 1988. cientific assistant University Heidelberg, Germany, 1970-1973, University Hamburg, 1973-1980. Senior pathologist University Bern, 1980-1991. Head department pathology Lehrkrankenhaus University Tübingen, Reutlingen, Germany, since 1991...........................> The accuracy of combined German Actuarial staff.
 
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Sgt_Nick_Fury said:
BigOrangeMojo Clearly > Arne Burkhardt, German pathologist, researcher. Certified in medicine University Kiel, Germany; certified pathologist University Hamburg. Recipient Konjetzny prize Cancer Liga Hamburg, 1980. Member International Association Oral Pathologists (councilor 1992-1996). Doctor of Medicine, University Munich, 1971. Privatdozent, University Hamburg, Germany, 1979. Professor, University Bern, Switzerland, 1988. cientific assistant University Heidelberg, Germany, 1970-1973, University Hamburg, 1973-1980. Senior pathologist University Bern, 1980-1991. Head department pathology Lehrkrankenhaus University Tübingen, Reutlingen, Germany, since 1991...........................> The accuracy of combined German Actuarial staff.
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Actually, the German insurance actuaries don't see any long term impacts from vax. Overall death rates, excluding COVID, are in line with long term death rates. Life, disability, and long term care insurance premiums are all increasing at a rate lower than inflation globally.

There's obviously some side effects. Im not saying that. Im not even saying its effective. Im just saying if the side effects were widespead enough now, youd see it in your premiums....
 
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The top 5 life/long term publicly traded insurance companies in the US all have 50% gains and a couple have doubled their stock price since the start of vaccine rollout. They all have record profits in 2021. They are doing this even though the rest of the market has sucked since Biden took over...

These companies don't make money by misanalyzing data....
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
The top 5 life/long term publicly traded insurance companies in the US all have 50% gains and a couple have doubled their stock price since the start of vaccine rollout. They all have record profits in 2021. They are doing this even though the rest of the market has sucked since Biden took over...

These companies don't make money by misanalyzing data....
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Can’t wait for everyone’s premiums and deductibles to drop.
 
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