VN Baseball Coaching Search 2011

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Former baseball Vol Jeff Christensen is on Sports Animal talking 2001 CWS experience now...

They didn't discuss the topic much. He did say that Burke will be a good baseball coach. Also said he understands MH is in a tough spot because of Burke's experience level.

He also talked a little about needing to get a coach soon, saying this is a critical time for recruiting.
 
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Per TOS
Fullerton Alum feels certain Serrano is leaving after the last game.

Another poster says he's heard Serrano is a done deal and Simcox might be with him.
 
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Hubbs says "Serrano is my choice" "He's the most qualified of the candidates mentioned" "Of course I know him from his time here before"

moments ago on Sports Animal
 
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vol66 said:
Hubbs says "Serrano is my choice" "He's the most qualified of the candidates mentioned" "Of course I know him from his time here before"

moments ago on Sports Animal
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Serrano wanted the job when TR was hired. For the life of me I don't understand how MH hired TR over Serrano.
 
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gvillvol said:
Serrano wanted the job when TR was hired. For the life of me I don't understand how MH hired TR over Serrano.
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I don't know, could have been the degree. Could have been that when Corbin gave Raleigh a recommendation it tipped the table. That's kind of how Dooley got here, Muschamp and Saban references. But I don't know, just guessing.
 
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#307
Bit confused on the degree thing. Don't know much about it and can't find much more. Can somebody give me the story?
 
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Does anyone have more information on this so called "diploma mill?" If that article is accurate in that no course work at all is required, then it changes my opinion radically. It's troubling that anyone with any credibility at all would put such a degree on their resume. To leave it on the resume is really questionable.
 
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vol66 said:
Per TOS
Fullerton Alum feels certain Serrano is leaving after the last game.

Another poster says he's heard Serrano is a done deal and Simcox might be with him.
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The Fullerton Alum mentioned above has apologized for the post, saying he shouldn't have written it. FWIW.
 
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Pie Jones said:
Does anyone have more information on this so called "diploma mill?" If that article is accurate in that no course work at all is required, then it changes my opinion radically. It's troubling that anyone with any credibility at all would put such a degree on their resume. To leave it on the resume is really questionable.
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You have to read the "About Us" section. Tab on right side of page on their website. Damn....that is crazy that anyone can do this.

Trinity College University
 
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Trinity College University

Read all of the tabs on the left of the web page......but you have to check out the "Uses for Degree?" tab. Amazing......

Not a real good move on his part for attaining one of these "Degrees". I don't know him and he may be the best person in the world but damn, not a real good thing to promote or place in a resume.
 
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Thoughts -

He took classes from here thinking it was legit and got burned. At that point, make a requirement of his hiring that he completes his degree in a specified amount of time.

If he genuinely just "bought" a degree, then no thanks. He's a great coach, but quite honestly, with all that has happened at UT in the past 12-18 months, I'll pass.
 
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tigervol9802 said:
Thoughts -

He took classes from here thinking it was legit and got burned. At that point, make a requirement of his hiring that he completes his degree in a specified amount of time.

If he genuinely just "bought" a degree, then no thanks. He's a great coach, but quite honestly, with all that has happened at UT in the past 12-18 months, I'll pass.
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Would you really want to put someone who could even fathom that was legit in a decision making position?
 
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hatvol96 said:
Would you really want to put someone who could even fathom that was legit in a decision making position?
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I guess I would have to see how his students performed in the classroom on his watch.

He obviously is pretty good at coaching baseball.
 
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Watch Fullerton win the NC or make it really deep in Omaha.....and Mike pulls the trigger on someone else
 
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Couple things...I have not been able to square how Serrano, how he could've worked here previously without a degree. As of right now, there is a job listing at UT for a Mens Asst. Swim Coach and there is no degree requirement. That is not to say that a HC doesn't need a degree, only to answer that maybe a degree was not required of him when he worked here before.

I don't know what happened on the last search and it is taking a fairly large jump to say the degree was the issue. BUT IF YOU DO MAKE THAT JUMP, it's hard to believe he'd be a realistic candidate this time around, right? Unless something has happened or is going to happen to change the status. To be clear, this is wild speculation.

I never liked the win at all cost mentality of the Kiffin crowd, everything was explained away with the tag line, As long as we win. I can't use it now because I think Serrano is the right choice. If he does what he's done everywhere he's been well...I want that, I really want that. He's got to have made progress or be willing to make progress. I hate saying it, I don't even remotely believe it. He's a baseball coach, a degree doesn't make him better or worse at it. Still, if it is the normal practice for the University of Tennessee to require it of a HC, he must have it or be willing to do something about it.

Did I say this is all speculation? Gossip?

Finally, I think it is odd that Wilkerson and Hubbs who both know the man and I would think know about this issue, don't even mention anyone else. Wilkerson flat out said it wasn't an issue.
 
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vol66 said:
Couple things...I have not been able to square how Serrano, how he could've worked here previously without a degree. As of right now, there is a job listing at UT for a Mens Asst. Swim Coach and there is no degree requirement. That is not to say that a HC doesn't need a degree, only to answer that maybe a degree was not required of him when he worked here before.

I don't know what happened on the last search and it is taking a fairly large jump to say the degree was the issue. BUT IF YOU DO MAKE THAT JUMP, it's hard to believe he'd be a realistic candidate this time around, right? Unless something has happened or is going to happen to change the status. To be clear, this is wild speculation.

I never liked the win at all cost mentality of the Kiffin crowd, everything was explained away with the tag line, As long as we win. I can't use it now because I think Serrano is the right choice. If he does what he's done everywhere he's been well...I want that, I really want that. He's got to have made progress or be willing to make progress. I hate saying it, I don't even remotely believe it. He's a baseball coach, a degree doesn't make him better or worse at it. Still, if it is the normal practice for the University of Tennessee to require it of a HC, he must have it or be willing to do something about it.
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If he were "willing to do something about it," he'd have done so long ago.
 
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vol66 said:
Couple things...I have not been able to square how Serrano, how he could've worked here previously without a degree. As of right now, there is a job listing at UT for a Mens Asst. Swim Coach and there is no degree requirement. That is not to say that a HC doesn't need a degree, only to answer that maybe a degree was not required of him when he worked here before.

I don't know what happened on the last search and it is taking a fairly large jump to say the degree was the issue. BUT IF YOU DO MAKE THAT JUMP, it's hard to believe he'd be a realistic candidate this time around, right? Unless something has happened or is going to happen to change the status. To be clear, this is wild speculation.

I never liked the win at all cost mentality of the Kiffin crowd, everything was explained away with the tag line, As long as we win. I can't use it now because I think Serrano is the right choice. If he does what he's done everywhere he's been well...I want that, I really want that. He's got to have made progress or be willing to make progress. I hate saying it, I don't even remotely believe it. He's a baseball coach, a degree doesn't make him better or worse at it. Still, if it is the normal practice for the University of Tennessee to require it of a HC, he must have it or be willing to do something about it.
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Dave worked here before as an assistant. In looking back, the Bachelor degree requirement does not appear to be a requirement for assistant positions.

I can name a few assistants in mainly spring and non revenue sports who had not attained their degree.

So I think they do allow non-degreed people as assistant coaches because so many coaches get their degrees while on campus. For instance, I think Chris Woodruff
 
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hatvol96 said:
If he were "willing to do something about it," he'd have done so long ago.
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I can't pretend to know his history, I don't know his circumstances. All I know about him is a one page bio and what other people say. Maybe you know all you need to know. I'm cool with that.
 
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vol66 said:
I can't pretend to know his history, I don't know his circumstances. All I know about him is a one page bio and what other people say. Maybe you know all you need to know. I'm cool with that.
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He's been on college campuses for twenty or so years now as a coach. He's never gotten a degree. I don't think the dots are hard to connect.
 
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Lucky for the two of us, we aren't in charge of connecting the dots and that's not wild speculation.
 
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Day four. The Cal State Fullerton folks think Serrano is gone. They have moved on to who will replace him.

Carolina lost to Vandy, that we know. Did Holbrook have an interview with Tennessee today via phone? We don't know.

What happened to Dan McDonnell? There was interest and then there wasn't. Nothing, no news.

The Chris Burke chant has taken on a more muted tone it seems, which is curious.

So what do we know. We know that in every coaching search conducted by Hamilton, the big names that are talked about end up giving way to "Who?". This means Serrano can't be the guy, right? On top of the fact that he's a huge name, there's the issue of a degree. Now, with the NCAA coming to town I figure you can't say the name Pat Murphy. Does that mean you can't say the name Serrano too? Dunno.

Is this all just smoke and mirrors while Hamilton is out chasing Bobby Pierce of Troy or Shoop at UAB or Mike Bell at OU? Dunno.

Sorry for not throwing stuff in, like message board posts from other sites by fans, nothing seemed too credible today.

It's going on 5 days, no interim HC has been named, that I know of. What's going on with recruiting? Long weekend coming up, what if any info will there be? No agreement has been signed with Raleigh to go away politely.

Sorry for the lack of info...GBO!!!
 
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Maybe someone who knows about college baseball recruiting can give us some info about what should be happening now. Is there a camp coming up? Are there deadlines in the coming weeks in regards to visits? I apologize for having no clue about the baseball calendar for the 2012 class.
 
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Recent Messages - Perfect Game

First word of the day from Rogers,on Tennessee, isin't much but...



Kirk Saarloos (Cal State Fullerton): He's by far the most interesting name on the candidates list. Saarloos is an undergraduate assistant coach in his first season with the Titans and is a guy that could end up going with Dave Serrano to Tennessee should Serrano decide to take the Tennessee job.

Anyway, don't look for anything to move on this front until Fullerton and California's seasons are over, but that's what we're hearing from our sources right now.
 
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