VN Baseball Coaching Search 2011

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#326
vol66 said:
Maybe someone who knows about college baseball recruiting can give us some info about what should be happening now. Is there a camp coming up? Are there deadlines in the coming weeks in regards to visits? I apologize for having no clue about the baseball calendar for the 2012 class.
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Dont think visits are allowed right now, but it's approaching travel ball and showcase season. Someone needs to get here and start planning their recruiting trips. Hopefully the new guy wil have some targets already.
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#327
#327
#1ArencibiaFan said:
Dont think visits are allowed right now, but it's approaching travel ball and showcase season. Someone needs to get here and start planning their recruiting trips. Hopefully the new guy wil have some targets already.
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2010-2011 recruiting calendar for baseball
2010-2011 NCAA Division I Baseball Recruiting Calendar - NCAA.org

Definition of terms
Glossary of terms - NCAA.org

Here is the calendar beginning Aug 2011.
http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/AMA/recruiting_calendars/2011/I/Baseball.pdf
 
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#335
hatvol96 said:
Yeah, why should an educational institution care about education?
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He's a baseball coach. How does his lack of a college degree hinder the player's pursuit of one or his ability to coach baseball and win games? UT isn't looking for a professor here. They're looking for a baseball coach. He's got all the qualifications I need to see.
 
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#336
CAVPUT said:
He's a baseball coach. How does his lack of a college degree hinder the player's pursuit of one or his ability to coach baseball and win games? UT isn't looking for a professor here. They're looking for a baseball coach. He's got all the qualifications I need to see.
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One might address your comment with the following:

1. A Head Coach must have eligible players. If they are not academically eligible then they can't compete. If they are not on the field due to academics then that could affect wins and losses which all falls on the Head Coach. It is utimately his responsibility to see to it that his players remain eligible just as it is his responsibility to win ballgames.

2. NCAA requires that players maintain satifactory progress towards a degree. If they do not meet those requirements they are ineligible.

40%/60%/80% Rule

By the start of 3rd year - 40% of a degree complete
By the start of 4th year - 60% of a degree complete
By the start of 5th year - 80% of a degree complete

3. APR numbers must be in line or there will penalties in the way of reducing scholarships. Baseball is already at 11.7 so that would hurt.

Bottom line is that education and the progress towards a degree is the reason they are able to play at universities across the nation.

One would say that it would be difficult for a Head Coach to stress the importance of an education and the importance of striving to do one's best in the classroom, while it is possible for the student/athlete to ask himself......."If all of this is so important then why doesn't he have his degree?"

I am not saying that he shouldn't be hired nor am I saying that he couldn't do the job and produce graduate after graduate.

I am just addressing the fact that your statement could not make sense to many.

Very ironic that a coach without a degree is in a position of overseeing, influencing and guiding a young man towards the pursuit of a degree.

And for all we know Mr. Serrano may be taking classes towards seeking his degree as we speak.
 
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#337
Gray0501 said:
One might address your comment with the following:

1. A Head Coach must have eligible players. If they are not academically eligible then they can't compete. If they are not on the field due to academics then that could affect wins and losses which all falls on the Head Coach. It is utimately his responsibility to see to it that his players remain eligible just as it is his responsibility to win ballgames.

2. NCAA requires that players maintain satifactory progress towards a degree. If they do not meet those requirements they are ineligible.

40%/60%/80% Rule

By the start of 3rd year - 40% of a degree complete
By the start of 4th year - 60% of a degree complete
By the start of 5th year - 80% of a degree complete

3. APR numbers must be in line or there will penalties in the way of reducing scholarships. Baseball is already at 11.7 so that would hurt.

Bottom line is that education and the progress towards a degree is the reason they are able to play at universities across the nation.

One would say that it would be difficult for a Head Coach to stress the importance of an education and the importance of striving to do one's best in the classroom, while it is possible for the student/athlete to ask himself......."If all of this is so important then why doesn't he have his degree?"

I am not saying that he shouldn't be hired nor am I saying that he couldn't do the job and produce graduate after graduate.

I am just addressing the fact that your statement could not make sense to many.

Very ironic that a coach without a degree is in a position of overseeing, influencing and guiding a young man towards the pursuit of a degree.

And for all we know Mr. Serrano may be taking classes towards seeking his degree as we speak.
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If the kid is motivated to get his degree, the fact that his coach does or does not have one means squat. It's up to the kid to get his degree and no one else.
 
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#345
CAVPUT said:
If the kid is motivated to get his degree, the fact that his coach does or does not have one means squat. It's up to the kid to get his degree and no one else.
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You fail to understand that it's part of the coaching staff's responsibility to make sure these kids' academics are up to standards.
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#346
#346
I don't care if he doesn't have a degree. As long as he makes sure the athletes are going to class and wins, it doesn't matter to me. "You kids learn from my mistake, get your degree. Now let's go win"
 
#347
#347
#1ArencibiaFan said:
You fail to understand that it's part of the coaching staff's responsibility to make sure these kids' academics are up to standards.
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Nobody is failing to understand that... what they are arguing is that ultimately the players are the ones responsible for getting their education. We had grad rates below 30% at times under some guys with college degrees, so I'm not very convinced that the educational background of a coach has much of an effect on academics.

Sure, if the guy is outright ridiculing the importance of academics then it will hurt a team... but I haven't heard anything like that from Serrano.
 
#348
#348
oUTKickedCoverage said:
Nobody is failing to understand that... what they are arguing is that ultimately the players are the ones responsible for getting their education. We had grad rates below 30% at times under some guys with college degrees, so I'm not very convinced that the educational background of a coach has much of an effect on academics.

Sure, if the guy is outright ridiculing the importance of academics then it will hurt a team... but I haven't heard anything like that from Serrano.
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Dude said only the kid had an impact on whether or not he gets his degree. The coach can and should have a pretty big impact as well.
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#349
#349
Morgan Ensberg, baseball analyst, said on Basilio's show that any coach out there not named Burke would use Tennessee as a stepping stone. He also suggested Burke's lack of experience is a "cop out".
 
#350
#350
Kendall Rogers: "Looks like the wheels are in motion for Tennessee and it's coaching search. Still focuses on Dave Serrano, but more interviews on the slate. I'll have an update on the Tennessee situation later today...

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