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#427
#427
6/27 wrap up.

I know you guys like your pitchers. We had two Vols take the hill tonight, Saberhagen as a starter and Charpie as a closer. Their stats are posted and they were correct at the end of the games.

I wanna talk Saberhagen. He's one of the few lefties we have on the roster and there will be no incoming left handers. He's experienced and for the second game in a row he's gone deep into the game and nearly hit the 100 pitch count mark. So, I'm asking the Bruins, Showme's and Hobucks (if yer still around) why won't CDS pitch this guy?

Through 5 innings he gave up 5 hits, 1 run and a walk. His last outing was similar, what's the deal? He can't be a middle reliever for us? Or does he see himself as a starter, thus causing the rub? Help a guy out, he's doing well in a hitter friendly league imo, what's the deal? In the 7th inning he got into trouble, he had runners on the corners with one out, runners on the corners again, one bases loded situation, 2 full count situations and he gave up 1 walk(2nd of the game) and a run. He was tough tonight.

The last couple of nights have been like wanting water in the desert. No good games, and I really wanted one. Tonight I got two. The Miners went into extra innings with the Oilers...again. AJ had a miserable 0/5 night and Stewart was a bit better at 1/5. So what happened? AJ was smoking hot going into last nights NON-league game. He had his FIRST night off since playing in the ABL. Tonight, he looked like he was trying too hard, and in addition, he was impatient in his first 2 at bats. Stewart, well, he walked up to the plate, bottom of the 10th and hit a two out double, that doesn't suck.

That was a good game. The St. Cloud Rox vs. the Mankato Moondogs was great. The Rox trailed the entire game, down 10-5 at one point. VJax kept them in the game. It was Jackson's best game of the summer, by far. He had 3 hits in 5 at bats, an RBI Double, he scored 3 runs and he only struck out once. He looked confident, even casual. He hit to right, left and center. I didn't get to watch him in the field as much as I would've liked because he and Saberhagen were playing at the same time, but I don't see him with any errors. The Rox ended up losing 12 -11, but it was a great game.

Lance, Wormsley and Houser had okay nights as well, but, and I think I've said this already, gotta cut down on getting K'd.

Speaking of cutting down on strike outs, While not having a good night at the plate...a terrible night by Simcox standards, I think AJ has had 43 at bats and no, zero, 0 K's.

That's good stuff.

Finally, I'd be remiss in my duties if I didn't talk some Ball Park food. THE HURLER...A regular beef burger, with all the fixings sandwiched between two jelly doughnuts as buns. Served up in the Cape Cod League by Taylor Smarts' Yarmouth-Dennis Red Sox. I kid you not. GBO!
 
#428
#428
Saberhagen's velocity (or lack thereof) is the biggest problem. He has to be perfect with his control to be effective. Further, he can be effective in getting LHs out with his breaking ball but has more problems with RH batters. The change can help vs RH hitters but he still has a problem with the lack of velo. Best used in long relief to eat up innings (he is a strike thrower) or in a close game, bring him in to get out one LH batter in a tough spot.

I really like Saberhagen and his competitiveness but his lack of velo makes it difficult for him to be effective as a starter in SEC play. It's not impossible for him to be an effective starter but his margin for error is much smaller.
 
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#429
#429
Backwards K said:
Saberhagen's velocity (or lack thereof) is the biggest problem. He has to be perfect with his control to be effective. Further, he can be effective in getting LHs out with his breaking ball but has more problems with RH batters. The change can help vs RH hitters but he still has a problem with the lack of velo. Best used in long relief to eat up innings (he is a strike thrower) or in a close game, bring him in to get out one LH batter in a tough spot.

I really like Saberhagen and his competitiveness but his lack of velo makes it difficult for him to be effective as a starter in SEC play. It's not impossible for him to be an effective starter but his margin for error is much smaller.
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This is pretty much spot on as far as I can see.
 
#430
#430
Backwards K said:
Saberhagen's velocity (or lack thereof) is the biggest problem. He has to be perfect with his control to be effective. Further, he can be effective in getting LHs out with his breaking ball but has more problems with RH batters. The change can help vs RH hitters but he still has a problem with the lack of velo. Best used in long relief to eat up innings (he is a strike thrower) or in a close game, bring him in to get out one LH batter in a tough spot.

I really like Saberhagen and his competitiveness but his lack of velo makes it difficult for him to be effective as a starter in SEC play. It's not impossible for him to be an effective starter but his margin for error is much smaller.
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So you're saying his problem is Velo?:p

How would you rank Saberhagen's velo with Quillen, Charpie, Bettencourt, Owenby, Cox and Martin? Just something for comparison. tia.
 
#431
#431
v66, I'm not exactly sure of gun readings but most of those other guys are at least upper 80s and an occasional 90. Saberhagen is around 80 for the most part with an occasional 83-84 thrown in. Cox is kind of in the same boat as Saberhagen from what I've seen.

Plus, with Saberhagen, when you throw a big looping curve, it's easier for the batter to pick that up quicker. Some of the pitchers you mentioned above throw a slider or in Quillen's case a quicker curve. With Saberhagen, the batter (especially RH) have an easier time adjusting to the different pitches he is throwing.

As I said earlier, on a better team with a deeper pitching staff, Saberhagen would be great at getting out one or two LH batters a game. Bring him in late in a game in a tight situation and get out one LH bat. He is tough on lefthanders.
 
#434
#434
6/27 Happy B-day CDS!

Pearl - Kidd - 5 PM (DH) - farwestleaguesummerbaseball.com: Game Schedules

Brigade - Cox - 6:30 PM - Pointstreak Sites | New England Collegiate Baseball League | Home Page

Monarchs - Loyd - 7 PM - http://glscl.bbstats.pointstreak.com/scoreboard.html?leagueid=625

Steam - Lance, Martin - 7:05 PM - http://glscl.bbstats.pointstreak.com/scoreboard.html?leagueid=625

Big Train - Charpie - 7:30 PM - bigtrain.org: Game Day Media

USA (Maddox) vs Red Wolves (Wormsley) - 7:30 - Coastal Plain League: The Nation's Hottest Summer Collegiate Baseball League

A's - Flax - 8 PM - http://data.iscorecentral.com/iscorecast/baseball/scorecast.html?c=1763F92630

Rox - VJax - 8:05 PM - St. Cloud Rox @ Mankato MoonDogs 6/28/2013 - YouTube

Blues - Lee, Aiken, Owenby - 9 PM - http://data.iscorecentral.com/iscorecast/baseball/scorecast.html?c=728F58742F

Miners (Simcox, BCourt, Stew) @ Pilots (Moberg) - 11 PM - MatsuMinersABL - YouTube

Players off today

Bily
Manis
Houser
Price
Smart
Saberhagen
Esparza
 
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#435
#435
Backwards K said:
v66, I'm not exactly sure of gun readings but most of those other guys are at least upper 80s and an occasional 90. Saberhagen is around 80 for the most part with an occasional 83-84 thrown in. Cox is kind of in the same boat as Saberhagen from what I've seen.

Plus, with Saberhagen, when you throw a big looping curve, it's easier for the batter to pick that up quicker. Some of the pitchers you mentioned above throw a slider or in Quillen's case a quicker curve. With Saberhagen, the batter (especially RH) have an easier time adjusting to the different pitches he is throwing.

As I said earlier, on a better team with a deeper pitching staff, Saberhagen would be great at getting out one or two LH batters a game. Bring him in late in a game in a tight situation and get out one LH bat. He is tough on lefthanders.
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Gotcha. I appreciate the technical aspects you're bringing. I went back and looked at his stats, he pitched in more games than I thought and he had quite a few games where it appears he was brought in to face a batter or two as you suggested.
 
#436
#436
I heard recently a quote where someone asked a scout, "what are you looking for in a left handed pitcher?" The scout replied: "A pulse and a breaking ball."

There is always a place for a LH pitcher who can bend a big curve ball like Saberhagen does. Sometimes it's a limited space, but it's there.
 
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#439
#439
Guys not in line ups tonight:

Cox
Charpie, game cancelled.
Flax
Loyd, game cancelled.
Aiken
Owenby
 
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#440
#440
Parker Wormsley CF, batting in the 2 spot.

Flies out to center.

0/3 so far...replaced.


Final line: 0/3



Maddox

Final line: 5 AB - 1 H - 1 RBI

Team USA wins 9-0



Youngblood DH, batting 8th (Start time pushed to 7:30)

Goes down swinging.

Draws a walk on a 3-2 count.

Grounds out 1-3.


Final line: 0/2...the Steam, as a team, had 2 hits.



VJax playing LF, batting 9th

Grounds out to 1B

RBI Single!

2 run home run

K's, 1-2 count, goes down swinging.


Final line: 4 AB - 2 H - 1 R - 3 RBI - 1 SO
 
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#441
#441
Stuff is a mess tonight, games getting pushed, cancelled. USA game stream AND stat tracker not working, same with GLCL games. Probably have to update both USA/Florence and Steam games later.
 
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#442
#442
The Neptune Beach Pearl started the first game of a DH at 5 PM, it's still going, tied at 2, top 13.

Pearl scores 4 runs in the Bot. 13, to win 6-5.
 
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#443
#443
Lee gets the start at 1B, batting in the 6 spot.

Lee draws a walk.

K's swinging.

Bases loaded, 2 out, full count, WALK, RBI

Lee grounds out to the Pitcher.

Lee reaches 2nd on an E by RF.


Final line: 3 AB, 0 H, 1 RBI, 2 BB, 1 SO


Owenby on to pitch.

6th inning: 1 H, 1 SO

7th inning: 1 H, 3 SO...PCt. 22, 18 S, 4 B

8th inning: 1 H, 6 SO, 1 HBP (hit the lead off batter, then he K'd the next 3 in a row)

Top 9 Blues winning 9-4...PCt. ...40, 27 S, 13 B...as he comes to the mound...nope he's done. Great Job!


Final Line: 3 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 6 SO
 
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#444
#444
VJax steps up to the plate, no outs 1 on, bot. 6 trailing 7-4.

2 RUN HOME RUN!
 
#447
#447
Miners vs. Pilots under way.


Simcox at SS and leading off.

1st K of the summer, looking.

LEAD OFF SINGLE!

Fly out to 2B

Simcox lines out to 1B.

AJ K's again, great at bat, but the pitcher has been trouble for him.


Final line: 5 AB, 1 H, 1 R, 2 SO



Stewart playing LF and batting clean up.

Lee goes down swinging.

RBI DBL!

Fly out to the warning track in RF.

RBI SINGLE!

Popped up to LF.


Final line: 5 AB, 2 H, 2 RBI, 1 SO



Moberg batting 9th and playing 2B for the Pilots.

Moberg K's swinging.

Moberg pops up to RF.

Moberg pops up to 1B.


Final line: 3 AB, 0 H, 1 SO
 
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#450
#450
6/28 wrap up

9 AB, 5 H, 4 R, 4 RBI, 1 DBL, 1 HR, 2 SO.

Those are VJax's numbers over the last two games. And to think I was "worried" about him 2 weeks ago. On Monday he was batting .143, as of Friday night, he's batting .308.

AJ finally struck out, twice, tonight.

Stewart went 2/5 with 2 RBI's, not too shabby.

As impressive as VJax's night was, Owenby wasn't messing about on the mound. In his final inning, he hit the first batter. He then struck out the next 3 batters in a row. Very nice performance, and I might add the closer who replaced him gave up two runs, maybe they'll let him finish next time.

Lotta baseball this week, and we ain't got to the weekend yet, lord help me.

GBO!
 
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