War in Ukraine

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#42,901
LouderVol said:
Just because you are paranoid, or Russia, doesnt mean people are out to get you.

The Allies had nukes and a military in place to roll up the USSR in 1945 and didnt. The USSR collapsed in 91. NATO didnt invade. Ukraine lost its nukes in 94, NATO didnt invade. If you believe the western media which I am sure you believe the western states do, Russias military is flailing around in Ukraine, and no NATO invasion will happen. Putin needs an outside threat to stay in power. NATO will always be that threat that will never materialize that Putin hangs around his people's neck.

You believe whatever propaganda you are told as long as the US is the bad guy. You didnt believe Russia would invade, they did. You didnt believe Ukraine would hold, they did. You didnt believe Ukraine was capable of a sizable counteroffensive, I didnt either, but they are. At some point you have to admit that your Russian sources may not be telling the entire truth when it comes to THIS conflict.
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I don't know where he gets the idea the west is just chomping at the bit to invade Russia. We've had ample opportunity and like you said, we've done NADA! If anyone is a threat to invade Russia it's the Chinese, they would love to have Siberia and it's resources.
 
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#42,902
Rasputin_Vol said:
The streets of San Francisco and Seattle are no cleaner or safer than Calcutta and Mogadishu right now. This winter, Western Europe will be plunged into the dark Ages again with no industry and no energy.

Your arrogance and ignorance are on full display right now.
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You've gone full potato.
 
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apevol said:
There was never going to be any military conflict. Putin saw Russia sliding into irrelevance and acted to prevent being supplanted as Europe's energy supplier.
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They were playing the long game in Ukraine and it failed. Just like they thought their invasion would have a ton of support from locals, they also assumed them buying off the old president would be popular. It wasn't.

Putin had to turn to armed conflict to salvage something.
 
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hog88 said:
Get it through your thick skull. NOBODY WAS GOING TO LAUNCH A MILITARY CONFLICT WITH RUSSIA! NOBODY!
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This is totally false. They were going to use proxies to try and weaken Russia to the point where they could turn it into a failed state like it was in the 1990s under Yeltsin. Maybe sprinkle in a regime change scheme and put in a Western puppet like Navalny or some Saakashvili-like character and then break up the Russian Federation.
 
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#42,907
hog88 said:
You've gone full potato.
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I think people need to realize, that the guy on the receiving end of these posts is an American, like the “girl” on the receiving end of sexting messages from a 50 year old guy is actually a hot 20 year old blonde.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
This is totally false. They were going to use proxies to try and weaken Russia to the point where they could turn it into a failed state like it was in the 1990s under Yeltsin. Maybe sprinkle in a regime change scheme and put in a Western puppet like Navalny or some Saakashvili-like character and then break up the Russian Federation.
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Who else is in the room with you???? Do you see dead people?
 
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apevol said:
There was never going to be any military conflict. Putin saw Russia sliding into irrelevance and acted to prevent being supplanted as Europe's energy supplier.
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Europe doesn't have any other realistic alternatives for energy. That should be obvious at this point.
 
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#42,910
hundreds of thousands of ukrainian citizens marching against Yakunovich with the government subsequently throwing him out of office = CIA coup.
Guys with guns taking over government buildings and confiscating private property = organic rebellion by will of the people.
 
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hog88 said:
We've been there and done that. Ever heard of Cuba? We played Putin's game for awhile trying to support and encourage internal rebellion, even trained a rebel force but we never invaded. Cuba was used as a refit for Russian nuclear subs for decades, did we invade?

Talk about intellectual dishonesty.
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Bay of Pigs

You cannot be this dumb, hog.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
This is totally false. They were going to use proxies to try and weaken Russia to the point where they could turn it into a failed state like it was in the 1990s under Yeltsin. Maybe sprinkle in a regime change scheme and put in a Western puppet like Navalny or some Saakashvili-like character and then break up the Russian Federation.
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So how was the US going to weaken Russia if Russia wasnt involved in any wars?

I keep saying the CIA must be gods at their job to trick Russia into invading Ukraine so that we could turn it into a quagmire. Especially after russia knew had been arming and training Ukraine for almost a decade
 
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hog88 said:
I don't know where he gets the idea the west is just chomping at the bit to invade Russia. We've had ample opportunity and like you said, we've done NADA! If anyone is a threat to invade Russia it's the Chinese, they would love to have Siberia and it's resources.
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They don't need to invade for sibera. In a generation China will control Siberia from an economic standpoint. They've been moving people to Siberia+investing there for years.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
This is totally false. They were going to use proxies to try and weaken Russia to the point where they could turn it into a failed state like it was in the 1990s under Yeltsin. Maybe sprinkle in a regime change scheme and put in a Western puppet like Navalny or some Saakashvili-like character and then break up the Russian Federation.
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Turns out they didn’t need to Moe. Pootin’s own paranoia kicked in and picked a fight with a proxy that right now is whipping his ass. And it’s a totally unforced error on his own idiot self 😂
 
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apevol said:
They don't need to invade for sibera. In a generation China will control Siberia from an economic standpoint. They've been moving people to Siberia+investing there for years.
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They'll still need to roll military into the area to secure it. Call it a soft invasion.
 
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hog88 said:
In 2021 spent almost $600 billion dollars with China the next was Japan at $151 billion and China doesn't need us anymore? You are so full of **** you can't see nothing but brown.
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That is more of a reflection on the United States, silly. The US had a trade deficit with China in 2021 of $350 billion. So again, you are a clown. We obviously need them more than they need us.

Leave this conversation to the guys in the front of the class, because you have no clue WTF you are babbling about.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
Turns out they didn’t need to Moe. Pootin’s own paranoia kicked in and picked a fight with a proxy that right now is whipping his ass. And it’s a totally unforced error on his own idiot self 😂
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Yay us. We need to send some more of your retirement money over to Ukraine, so you understand the pain of a fixed income while we have a government that feels free to endlessly fund a proxy war with Russia.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
That is more of a reflection on the United States, silly. The US had a trade deficit with China in 2021 of $350 billion. So again, you are a clown. We obviously need them more than they need us.

Leave this conversation to the guys in the front of the class, because you have no clue WTF you are babbling about.
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What would China do if we cut trade with them? Yes, it would crush our economy for a few years and it would be painful but we could pull through with all of our natural resources. China would go bankrupt within 24 months.
 
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#42,925
Rasputin_Vol said:
That is more of a reflection on the United States, silly. The US had a trade deficit with China in 2021 of $350 billion. So again, you are a clown. We obviously need them more than they need us.

Leave this conversation to the guys in the front of the class, because you have no clue WTF you are babbling about.
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Who does China sell their garbage to if we stop buying it Moe? We aren’t forced to buy from China. Who else is lining to fill the buying power of the largest singular consumer economy in the world? 🤡
 
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