War in Ukraine

[Rasputin_Vol]

Who else is in the room with you???? Do you see dead people?

Here we go

 

[NorthDallas40]

Yay us. We need to send some more of your retirement money over to Ukraine, so you understand the pain of a fixed income while we have a government that feels free to endlessly fund a proxy war with Russia.

It’s gonna go. Both of our retirement monies will. And this is the best ROI we will ever get on foreign aid too.

And yeah we need to cut it back I’ve said multiple times were spending too much too fast.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

hundreds of thousands of ukrainian citizens marching against Yakunovich with the government subsequently throwing him out of office = CIA coup.
Guys with guns taking over government buildings and confiscating private property = organic rebellion by will of the people.

What are you babbling about? You do realize the State Department orchestrated that coup, right?

 

[LSU-SIU]

Yes I said we trained a rebel force. WE didn't invade.

The United States blockaded Cuba which is considered by the real world as an act of war. The Cubans do not recognize the "agreement" for gitmo, sound familiar? So, from the point of the view of the Cubans the Americans have invaded and worked with terrorist organizations to overthrow their government.

Points of view.

So, Cuban hosts terrorist groups and arms them, they than use Cuba as a launching point for invasion of the United States... and in that instance Cuba is just an innocent by-stander?

What the United States has been involved in... is insanity.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

They do, it's called nuclear and the north sea.

North Sea ain't enough to replace Russia. And we can't even get nuclear ramped up over here, so you know it is politically impossible over there.

Let them have their windmills and unicorn farts.

 

[NorthDallas40]

What are you babbling about? You do realize the State Department orchestrated that coup, right?

Actually the Ukrainian parliament exercised their legislative powers and cast him out. But you don’t seem to be able to grasp that.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

They would've, and that wasn't acceptable to Putin. That is what this is all about.

So now Putin is orchestrating the Greens in Western Europe?

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Yes I said we trained a rebel force. WE didn't invade.

We did invade. WTF are you talking about? Oh oh oh... "we" used Cuban exiles as proxies.

 

[apevol]

What are you babbling about? You do realize the State Department orchestrated that coup, right?

Our government can't get that many people to show up for a Lions game if you gave them 5 trillion to do it with and you think they have that kind of ability to influence people from another country? We can't sneeze without the french or someone else accusing us of being imperialist pigs and you think Obama waltzed into ukraine and orchestrated that? Somewhere Putin himself said all was well just a few years prior?

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Russia didn't stop **** because we didn't invade Syria, had we invaded the regime would have fallen.

Assad would have likely seen the same fate as Saddam and Ghaddafi had the Russians not intervened and you damn well know this.

 

[LSU-SIU]

We did invade. WTF are you talking about? Oh oh oh... "we" used Cuban exiles as proxies.

Russians should just give Cuba a tactical nuke, set it outside of gitmo.... clear the invaders.

Russia would be innocent as they didn't do anything. LOL

The whole point of Afghanistan was that it was a launching point of attacks against Europe and the United States or their excuse for it.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

What would China do if we cut trade with them? Yes, it would crush our economy for a few years and it would be painful but we could pull through with all of our natural resources. China would go bankrupt within 24 months.

Bulls^^t.

China has developing markets from Africa to Indonesia to trade with, plus they have a domestic market that has plenty of room to grow.

 

[LSU-SIU]

What would China do if we cut trade with them? Yes, it would crush our economy for a few years and it would be painful but we could pull through with all of our natural resources. China would go bankrupt within 24 months.

The federal reserve system would probably stop functioning with a few hours i.e. reset.

 

[DonjoVol]

The streets of San Francisco and Seattle are no cleaner or safer than Calcutta and Mogadishu right now. This winter, Western Europe will be plunged into the dark Ages again with no industry and no energy.

Your arrogance and ignorance are on full display right now.

The entitlement and arrogance of many Americans who are also Christian or religious in any way just amazes me. And by the way, I'm not saying Hog is a religious person either.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Bulls^^t.

China has developing markets from Africa to Indonesia to trade with, plus they have a domestic market that has plenty of room to grow.

You’re full of all of their developing markets combined are only a fraction of our buying power. LMAO

 

[hog88]

We did invade. WTF are you talking about? Oh oh oh... "we" used Cuban exiles as proxies.

No US troops invaded Cuba.

 

[hog88]

Assad would have likely seen the same fate as Saddam and Ghaddafi had the Russians not intervened and you damn well know this.

Not at our hand.

 

[MontyPython]

 

[hog88]

Bulls^^t.

China has developing markets from Africa to Indonesia to trade with, plus they have a domestic market that has plenty of room to grow.

Take 600 billion from their economy and it collapses.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

The United States blockaded Cuba which is considered by the real world as an act of war. The Cubans do not recognize the "agreement" for gitmo, sound familiar? So, from the point of the view of the Cubans the Americans have invaded and worked with terrorist organizations to overthrow their government.

Points of view.

So, Cuban hosts terrorist groups and arms them, they than use Cuba as a launching point for invasion of the United States... and in that instance Cuba is just an innocent by-stander?

What the United States has been involved in... is insanity.

Castro and the people of Cuba overthrew a corrupt dictator. We should have been supporting Castro in the same way we are supporting the Kyiv regime. I mean, sovereignty and the will of the people, right?

 

[LSU-SIU]

Take 600 billion from their economy and it collapses.

No, the whole system collapses.

If China willfully stops using the Federal Reserve system i.e. Dollar, the whole world will collapse.

 

[hog88]

No, the whole system collapses.

Much of it does for sure but we are better equipped to rebound than China.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Our government can't get that many people to show up for a Lions game if you gave them 5 trillion to do it with and you think they have that kind of ability to influence people from another country? We can't sneeze without the french or someone else accusing us of being imperialist pigs and you think Obama waltzed into ukraine and orchestrated that? Somewhere Putin himself said all was well just a few years prior?

Yes, they had $5 billion invested in the Ukraine project leading up to the 2014 coup.

 

[LSU-SIU]

Much of it does for sure but we are better equipped to rebound than China.

Probably looking at a new Dark Age bro, system reset. All trade and commerce would come to a complete stop for the foreseeable future.

There is no backup system. Billions will have to be written off the books, and we're not talking money.... people.

 

[DonjoVol]

Who does China sell their garbage to if we stop buying it Moe? We aren’t forced to buy from China. Who else is lining to fill the buying power of the largest singular consumer economy in the world?

What do you mean we are not forced to buy from them? You do realize how much of what we buy is manufactured in China right?