War in Ukraine

[LouderVol]

Just sat down to catch up - only six new pages, so I'm guessing WW3 didn't start.

Just a lot fewer of us left to respond.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

No we are running a deficit because we keep electing people who use tax revenues to buy votes. We just happen to be spending to help out a country in need - and learning a lot about different warfare and coping in exchange. Clean up all the other wasted spending, and then we can talk about spending to help out a country being invaded by one of our own enemies.

You act like $100 billion is just spit in the ocean at a time like this.

Diplomacy is cheaper than war.

 

[volfanhill]

Just sat down to catch up - only six new pages, so I'm guessing WW3 didn't start.

It did. We got nuked after 6 pages. That's why it stopped

 

[LouderVol]

You act like $100 billion is just spit in the ocean at a time like this.

Diplomacy is cheaper than war.

And proxy wars are cheaper than war.

 

[NCFisher]

I've seen blurbs and stories. I don't know how to post links here but if you Google it some stories come up. One military chopper you'll see a lot but further down some other stories. They believe they are Mexican military running cover for cartel.

1 - Put your touchpad/mouse arrow on the link displayed at top of page
2 - Right-clicking will highlight the entire link; click COPY
3 - Create a post here and right-click, then PASTE
The link will deposit, usually as the headline of the linked article.

Mexican military incursions reported as you stated a search yields plenty of references, dozens, if not hundreds.

 

[AM64]

Two air defense missiles hitting that close together seems very unlikely. Almost as unlikely as them being Russian missiles that were knocked off course.

Two separate launchers, you usually don't group these things that close to each other so they cant be hit at the same time, fired at the same target in the air, would have different trajectories even if it was the same battery. They would also have to be "chasing" the Russian missiles, which I am pretty sure you dont do with surface to air missile defense, for their momentum to carry them into Poland.

It is much more probable, like much much much more, that these missiles hit their target. The question is who fired them. I think both sides are assuming the other, and will stick to it, no matter what evidence is provided.

Could also be one Russian missile and one Ukrainian AD missile fired to intercept it. Like a sideline pass, if the receiver misses it, it goes out of bounds. Maybe if Russia hadn't been targeting power lines running across the Ukrainian/Polish border, it could all have been avoided. These days there is no excuse to target civilians or broad parts of the infrastructure except as an act of terrorism.

 

[Burhead]

 

[Burhead]

How about Afghan Army? Is that recent enough for you?

For us or the Russians?

 

[KB5252]

1 - Put your touchpad/mouse arrow on the link displayed at top of page
2 - Right-clicking will highlight the entire link; click COPY
3 - Create a post here and right-click, then PASTE
The link will deposit, usually as the headline of the linked article.

Mexican military incursions reported as you stated a search yields plenty of references, dozens, if not hundreds.

I'm using mobile, I could probably figure it out on a laptop or desktop

 

[AM64]

About 100 years ago.

But of course now, we have corrupt leadership on this side of the border that wants Mexico to invade us since we don't bother to protect our border yet we concern ourselves far more with the Ukraine-Russia border.

When was the last time Mexicans (and others they let through) invaded our soil? A fraction of a second ago? And what have we done about it in the last 99 years with or without corrupt leadership?

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Could also be one Russian missile and one Ukrainian AD missile fired to intercept it. Like a sideline pass, if the receiver misses it, it goes out of bounds. Maybe if Russia hadn't been targeting power lines running across the Ukrainian/Polish border, it could all have been avoided. These days there is no excuse to target civilians or broad parts of the infrastructure except as an act of terrorism.

It's funny because in the first 7-8 months, when they avoided such missile strikes, you clowns called it ineptitude... because that is one of the very first things the US would have done. Now that they have stepped it up, now it is an act of terrorism.

Just so that you are on the record, but what would you call the Kyiv Regime bombing of the Donbas over the last 8 years?

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

For us or the Russians?

Either

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

4000 soldiers...

Keep in mind the Russians captured about a third of that number just at Azovstal in Mariupol. So WTF is 4000 soldiers over the entire country of Ukraine?

 

[FLVOL_79]

lol

Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Mark Milley speaks during a press briefing at the Pentagon on November 16 in Arlington, Virginia. (Alex Wong/Getty Images)

"top US Gen. Mark Milley said Russia has failed "every single" objective in its war against Ukraine."

 

[AM64]

How about Russian propaganda then. From TASS. I know you know who they are. Things are going so well Pootin signs decree to draft dual citizens. And even more ridiculous permanent residents.

Russians with dual citizenship can be drafted into army — Putin’s decree

We can only hope Pootin comes for some of the Russian riff raff who have invaded the US - the criminal ones we foolishly keep allowing to stay.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

When was the last time Mexicans (and others they let through) invaded our soil? A fraction of a second ago? And what have we done about it in the last 99 years with or without corrupt leadership?

Not much of anything recently except let them cross the border. But of course, that is because that is achieving a political goal for the corrupt leaders in this country. But even you know that there are several historical examples of us crossing over and the US using the same or similar justifications that Russia is using right now.

 

[Burhead]

4000 soldiers...

Keep in mind the Russians captured about a third of that number just at Azovstal in Mariupol. So WTF is 4000 soldiers over the entire country of Ukraine?

Its not just the Czechs. The Brits conducted training for around 10,000 , the Poles agreed to train another 12,000, and Germany at least 3,000. The benefit is the get to go through training in a safe environment and with professional instructors unlike the rabble the Russians put together.

 

[LouderVol]

lol

Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Mark Milley speaks during a press briefing at the Pentagon on November 16 in Arlington, Virginia. (Alex Wong/Getty Images)

"top US Gen. Mark Milley said Russia has failed "every single" objective in its war against Ukraine."

I see he is still dumb.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Two air defense missiles hitting that close together seems very unlikely. Almost as unlikely as them being Russian missiles that were knocked off course.

Well, if you had watched the New Atlas video I posted this morning, it would explain the reason why there were 2 missiles.
If you want to see his explanation, it starts at the 9:57 mark.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Its not just the Czechs. The Brits conducted training for around 10,000 , the Poles agreed to train another 12,000, and Germany at least 3,000. The benefit is the get to go through training in a safe environment and with professional instructors unlike the rabble the Russians put together.

So 30k troops from NATO vs 300k from Russia. OK. You've convinced me.

Also, where is that Million Man Army that 3elensky was talking about this summer?

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Its not just the Czechs. The Brits conducted training for around 10,000 , the Poles agreed to train another 12,000, and Germany at least 3,000. The benefit is the get to go through training in a safe environment and with professional instructors unlike the rabble the Russians put together.

The damn title of the video says a crash course.

 

[C/O]

Shoot. I could train 4000 for a lot less.

 

[Burhead]

The damn title of the video says a crash course.

The Russians are getting a week or two max of training before being sent to the meat grinder. 3-5 weeks of NATO style training goes further than what they're getting.

 

[Burhead]

So 30k troops from NATO vs 300k from Russia. OK. You've convinced me.

Also, where is that Million Man Army that 3elensky was talking about this summer?

I have no idea what your talking about regarding a million man army.