War in Ukraine

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Rocky_Top_Vol13 said:
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And Donjo before you say anything, no I do not believe these numbers are completely accurate. I do believe some of them are inflated and exaggerated. However, lets say these number are inflated by 50% (which I seriously doubt they are). That would still mean that Russia has lost over 75000 troops in a year. By contrast, the US lost one seventh of that in Iraq and Afghanistan in a decades time. And I don't care who you are, if you're relying on Iran for military support, you are not in a good situation.
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Until he offers a daily Russian MoD source listing casualties he can just STFU
 
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KB5252 said:
Wrong again. You take everything so personal when nothing personal was even intended. You brought up two, very partisan examples of elected officials and pointed to Pelosi's constituents as fools for doing so. I was simply pointing out you were halfway there in coming to a revelation, breaking the surface of identity politics ......... And then you turtled back into the shell.
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Okay. Please name some politicians you support. Guarantee you they are more into identity politics than you claim MTG is. MTG is actually in the minority of politicians when it comes to the support of national socialists in Ukraine. She's actually against it.

And I'll say it again as I've said in other threads. I don't support the Democrats and RINOS in office as they are responsible for much of the mess we are in.

Please stop trying to come across as some sort of moderate. You're not and most intelligent people like myself are not fooled by your game.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
We went over this yesterday. Even in your attempt to clean it up, you still admitted that he was saying that Americans will have to come to the rescue if Ukraine loses. There is no dancing or sidestepping what Zelensky was clearly suggesting in that interview.
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What he said was if your orc buddies go full retard and invade the Baltics, that’s a very important pretext you keep dodging, then article 5 is invoked and yes the US is compelled if they are to honor at least this agreement. But you keep lying your way around that factual summary of what he said.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
We went over this yesterday. Even in your attempt to clean it up, you still admitted that he was saying that Americans will have to come to the rescue if Ukraine loses. There is no dancing or sidestepping what Zelensky was clearly suggesting in that interview.
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You either didn't listen to the full clip or simply don't care. Zelensky was clearly talking about American involvement if Russia moves against the Baltic's or another NATO state. You are smart enough to see the difference or at least I thought you were.
 
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Burhead said:
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To be clear (for those who don’t know and may be confused by the wording), Moldovan and Romanian are the same language. They’re just changing the name. The Soviets encouraged calling it “Moldovan” to try and cement the idea that Moldovans and Romanians are different people (and delegitimize Romania’s claim to the land stolen by Moscow).
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Afghanistan and Iraq after 2003 were basically insurgencies and armed militants fighting against a professional army, so it would make sense for the US to have low casualties. Russia on the other hand has been fighting a professional army that has been armed and trained by NATO.

Fighting goat herders with sandals and AK-47s is far different than what we are seeing in Ukraine.
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Absolutely, but there's no reason for their casualties to be so needlessly high, especially for the return they've paid for. For a country with a population problem they are fools for waging war, especially in the manner they conduct it.
 
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tvolsfan said:
To be clear (for those who don’t know and may be confused by the wording), Moldovan and Romanian are the same language. They’re just changing the name. The Soviets encouraged calling it “Moldovan” to try and cement the idea that Moldovans and Romanians are different people (and delegitimize Romania’s claim to the land stolen by Moscow).
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I could understand a lot of Moldovans wanting to join Romania right now to get into NATO.
 
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DonjoVol said:
Okay. Please name some politicians you support. Guarantee you they are more into identity politics than you claim MTG is. MTG is actually in the minority of politicians when it comes to the support of national socialists in Ukraine. She's actually against it.

And I'll say it again as I've said in other threads. I don't support the Democrats and RINOS in office as they are responsible for much of the mess we are in.

Please stop trying to come across as some sort of moderate. You're not and most intelligent people like myself are not fooled by your game.
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I don't support politicians, I don't like them, some I dislike more than others. I agree with democrats some but identify with republican philosophy in general, just not their practice. The problem isn't RINOS the problem is them all being corrupt, bought and paid for. I know you think I'm a liberal, but you're dead wrong.

I could be wrong but you come across as a Tucker, Trump loyalist to me. And to some degree policy wise I actually liked a few things Trump did and thought he was actually on point with getting Europe more self dependent. But he was a damn fool in how he approached things. He came off as the dumbest guy in the room and along with his divisive rhetoric it made it next to impossible to follow his lead. He was and is a horrible leader. MTG is cut from the same cloth though I feel there is little if any substance there.

In general I'm against the MIC and the power they hold. I don't support blindly sending money to Ukraine but I do support Ukraine in that they have the right as a nation to self determine. And we've committed our interests so we literally have to see it through to some end. Where that end is is something that needs thoughtful discussion.

I dont buy for one minute your virtuous claims of Russia fighting this good fight for morality. That's straight bullshat........ And any halfway intelligent person knows as much.
 
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DonjoVol said:
I can say whatever I please. If you got something to say about me please try responding directly to me from now on.
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Motion denied as I do both, mock you directly and indirectly. Which by the way is the same thing you do with your fellow stooge affirmation circle jerks. And by all means do as you please as that’s the engine that drives the mocking of the stupidity in your posts Curly.
 
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tvolsfan said:
To be clear (for those who don’t know and may be confused by the wording), Moldovan and Romanian are the same language. They’re just changing the name. The Soviets encouraged calling it “Moldovan” to try and cement the idea that Moldovans and Romanians are different people (and delegitimize Romania’s claim to the land stolen by Moscow).
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Language persecution, just like in Donbas.
 
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