War in Ukraine

[volgr]

What would Russia have to gain from trying to do something to a nuclear power plant when the blowback would damage Russia just as much, if not more than Ukraine?

Remember these are the same people who think Russia blew up their own gas pipeline. Also, Ukraine has been targeting this nuclear plant since early in the war.

 

[Septic]

You think Russia, who is outshelling Ukraine 10:1, as claimed by Ukraine last fall it is likely worse than that now, and who has air superiority over Ukraine...is dying in equal numbers to Ukrainians? Are you nuts? This doesn't even take into account the fact Russian soldiers are better trained and using better weapons. This is why you see a 7:1 kill ratio in favor of Russia and is more likely 10:1 in Bakhmut...and no, that isn't counting civilians. That is only counting military fighters. Russia struck 9 barracks the other night, I think Ukraine struck 1 a few days ago. Even that is lopsided.

Anyone discounting the 7:1 ratio (which is too low in current fighting) is doing so while ignoring all evidence on the ground.

I'm not convinced that vulgr isn't an alt account for @Rasputin_Vol. The nonsense that vulgr is spewing is so outlandish, it suggests that he's either just a (bad) troll or he's talking all crazy like this to try and make Ras look sane by comparison.

 

[Burhead]

Over/under on the Russian MoD claiming to down NATO TIE fighters and X-wings?

 

[Burhead]

Seems to be working out quite well.

Yes. Wasting valuable young, healthy Russian males in a war of expansion that will hasten the demographic collapse of the Russian state is working well.

 

[Rocky_Top_Vol13]

 

[Burhead]

 

[LouderVol]

Remember these are the same people who think Russia blew up their own gas pipeline. Also, Ukraine has been targeting this nuclear plant since early in the war.

their own gas line that wasn't in use, and they were accusing others, apparently nations they are at war with, of stealing from. seems like it would serve a pretty good purpose to blow it up.

or it could be a false flag. Putin has been known to stage one of those to empower himself.

or it could be the US blew it up after that mysterious Russian ship left the area.

 

[Hunerwadel]

Seems to be working out quite well.

Finland sez hey.

 

[Septic]

Cracks me up to see the Moscals chirp and fall about like Fred Sanford on his way to see Lizbeth after that drone smacked the flagpole at the Kremlin. The screeches about "Ukrainian terrorism" are just too funny given that they are sending missles into residential neighborhoods in Kiev on the daily.

It's like they have no self-awareness that the world is laughing at how pathetic they are.

 

[volgr]

That is my point though. Pro Russia- believes they are doing right. Pro Ukraine- believe they are doing what’s right. Why can’t it be they are both wrong. Russia invades neighboring countries every couple years to get what they want. Usa uses militias in other countries to get what they want. That’s both wrong, but yet, good for that economy.

Usually both sides in a conflict think they are right. That is why they fight. Might makes right in the end and ultimately, if the West puts boots on the ground, the West will be right and if they do not, Russia will be right.

 

[volgr]

If Bakhmut is such a trap why is Russia closing it? why did Russia try closing continuously for months? They could have achieved the same results just by staging their men and equipment. that would be an actual feint. and it would have cost Russia pretty much nothing.

You guys were on here consistently since August talking about how Bakhmut was about to fall and it was going to take Ukraine down with it. Now 9 months later you change your rhetoric into it being some grand Russian plan to be slow, how convenient.

and I ask again, since Russia has been taking advantage of *Ukraine* so much, how is Russia going to capitalize on it? where is their big offensive going to come from? Or are they going to give Ukraine months again to dig in and just weight out the Russian attacks. When can we expect to see the benefits from this trap?

First it was they arent taking Bakhmut fast enough, now they are taking it too fast (why would they close their trap). Too funny.

Russia is closing up Bakhmut because Ukraine has slowed the pour of reinforcements into it.

As for the rest, Russia isnt making big moves and hasnt since the start of the war. Why do you think they will change now? They move slowly and methodically, inflicting maximum casualties on Ukraine while preserving their own forces. It is not how the US fights a war, but it seems to be very successful for them in accomplishing their goals.

 

[volgr]

What aggressive actions are we taking? Arming a country who was invaded by a larger supposed world power?

Shooting down surveillance balloons after they collect intelligence over our skies for a week?

Hedge to protect our investments in Taiwan as they are being threatened by invasion from another world power?

None of these are escalations, they are reactions to an opposing action.

Those are aggressive actions, minus the balloon. Also, Taiwan is part of China, our own One China Policy says such.

 

[InVOLuntary]

Seems to be working out quite well.

Did you post that with a straight face.

2 more NATO countries sharing a birder now. Pootin remains master strategist.

How many more days of this 3 day war can we expect?

On the bright side, at least he's emptying out his prisons.

 

[Hunerwadel]

Ukraine intelligence must think Putin sleeps in the Kremlin dome.

 

[volgr]

If us wanted him dead you don’t think he’d be dead? A tiny drone just made its way through the night.

Possibly, but I highly doubt it.

 

[WilcoVolsFan]

Sure. NATO hasn't invaded Russia. But NATO does have a track record of invading (Syria, Afghanistan, Libya, Serbia, Panama).

Well that's interesting. I actually lived in Panama and attended Balboa High School in 1989, but this is the first I've ever heard of a "NATO invasion" so please tell me more.

Is that a NATO soldier who beat the opposition Vice Presidential candidate after Noriega nullified the elections?

 

[volgr]

Remind me which country the US is currently invading by recruiting prisoners in exchange for commuting their prison sentences, annexing their land, kidnapping children, and committing mass rapes?

How many hundreds of thousands of dead Iraqis were because of our actions? We have no moral high ground here. Also, your post is full of western propaganda. Total BS.

 

[volgr]

In what world is defending your homeland "wrong"?

The wrong part is Ukraine's actions that led up to their Country being invaded. Seeing what has transpired over the last year plus, Russia has been proven correct in their self defense assessment for invading a belligerent neighbor.

 

[WilcoVolsFan]

How many hundreds of thousands of dead Iraqis were because of our actions? We have no moral high ground here. Also, your post is full of western propaganda. Total BS.

So Saddam is another hero of yours as well as Putin, huh? Makes sense, another dictator that employed torture and rape to brutalize his people and invade another sovereign country.

How about Idi Amin? Or is his skin a bit too dark for you to start drawing hearts around?

 

[volgr]

Yes. Wasting valuable young, healthy Russian males in a war of expansion that will hasten the demographic collapse of the Russian state is working well.

Giving NATO a black eye, defending yourself from western aggression and making the world more multi-polar. Yes, this is working out well for Russia.

 

[volgr]

So Saddam is another hero of yours as well as Putin, huh? Makes sense, another dictator that employed torture and rape to brutalize his people and invade another sovereign country.

How about Idi Amin? Or is his skin a bit too dark for you to start drawing hearts around?

No one is defending Saddam, but you cant ignore the hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis who are dead thanks to the US. Is Iraq better off today thanks to our actions?

 

[volgr]

Giving NATO a black eye, defending yourself from western aggression and making the world more multi-polar. Yes, this is working out well for Russia.

Also add, all of that while severely weakening NATO militarily and economically.

 

[Burhead]

The wrong part is Ukraine's actions that led up to their Country being invaded. Seeing what has transpired over the last year plus, Russia has been proven correct in their self defense assessment for invading a belligerent neighbor.

Missed the part where Ukrainian tanks crossed the border into Russia.

 

[volgr]

Missed the part where Ukrainian tanks crossed the border into Russia.

You seem to be one who misses a lot.

 

[Burhead]

You seem to be one who misses a lot.

You didn't answer the question. Show me where Ukraine, or even NATO for that matter, has been aggressive towards Russia or have launched a series of military campaigns against the Motherland prior to Feb 2022.