War in Ukraine

[VOLLeeann]

Investors in America are warning that the chaos being caused by Donald Trump could end up destroying the stock market – or at least it could create enough volatility to cost a lot of people a lot of money. This isn’t just a 1%er problem – millions of working class people have their pensions and retirement accounts invested in the market, and Trump’s inability to lead could cost these people everything. Ring of Fire’s Farron Cousins explains what’s happening.

 

[Boston Vol]

Bernie weighs in...

lol. Bernie, The Nation, and Trudeau, you’re on a roll today.

 

[MOOOOONEY]

They’re taking volunteers as well.

They are in favor of sending other Americans to die, but none will volunteer themselves.

 

[MOOOOONEY]

Spain also said they stand and support Ukraine after this fiasco. This is a good thing, that way Ukraine can be able to join NATO. As has the UK.

Good then we can leave NATO.

 

[VOLLeeann]

 

[DaddyChad]

Some of our liberal friends here need to watch this.

Frustrations with Z were not just with this administration. Biden admin was also frustrated with him. He says one thing in the media but does a lot behind the scenes to sabotage chances of peace.

 

[Carl Pickens]

He was, correctly, warning that Russia won't stop at Ukraine.

Perhaps, but his timing and delivery was atrocious if so

 

[Majors]

Decided to go off.....

Did you not see that Trump was baiting him into an opening for Vance? Zelensky calmly corrected Trump's pro-Russia lies, and Vance went off on his prepared remarks and it went downhill from there.

Trump and Putin loved it, because it gives them the opportunity to portray Zelensky as the barrier to peace and for Trump and Putin to claim that they are being reasonable but Zelensky isn't.

So you’re upset Vance confronted Zelenskyy with truth, but you somehow keep reciting prepared remarks. Zelenskyy came looking for a check and got a reality check. He was not prepared and it showed.

 

[VOLLeeann]

"It was worse..."

 

[VOLLeeann]

 

[VOLLeeann]

Booker "A really awful day..."

 

[n_huffhines]

We don't have a free press here either.

The comment was tongue in cheek. More or less. When it comes to objectivity on certain matters, it's likely TASS is more objective.

Which one is likely more objective on Trump? Or more appropriately, which one would come immediately to mind if you asked "which news agency is biased against Trump, TASS or CNN?"

About Trump? You got TDS or something? The topic is about Russia/Ukraine. Trump thinks it's about him and so does a good portion of the right, for some reason.

We don't have a free press?

 

[LSU-SIU]

About Trump? You got TDS or something? The topic is about Russia/Ukraine. Trump thinks it's about him and so does a good portion of the right, for some reason.

We don't have a free press?

You think its about Trump.

It has really nothing to do with Trump, they lost.

 

[Majors]

Booker "A really awful day..."

At this point you’re not trying. Nobody pulls Booker clips from Maddow and wants to be taken serious. They are why Trump was elected.

 

[LSU-SIU]

At this point you’re not trying. Nobody pulls Booker clips from Maddow and wants to be taken serious. They are why Trump was elected.

They can't even say what they want.

 

[VOLLeeann]

Speaking of Ukranians...

 

[Grand Vol]

About Trump? You got TDS or something? The topic is about Russia/Ukraine. Trump thinks it's about him and so does a good portion of the right, for some reason.

We don't have a free press?

Oh, we have the rabbit ears free press, but you and I both know just how far the "free" portion goes on that. Don't even pretend otherwise.

And I used Trump as an example. Good grief...

 

[Orange_Crush]

 

[Majors]

Investors in America are warning that the chaos being caused by Donald Trump could end up destroying the stock market – or at least it could create enough volatility to cost a lot of people a lot of money. This isn’t just a 1%er problem – millions of working class people have their pensions and retirement accounts invested in the market, and Trump’s inability to lead could cost these people everything. Ring of Fire’s Farron Cousins explains what’s happening.

The DJIA is down .42 since Trump took office. It’s up 3.83% since he was elected.

 

[CobbVol]

Priorities, priorities, priorities ... My guess is also that the EU countries spend more on climate change as well than their support for Ukraine.

This will be a good time for the EU, Canada, and other countries to take the lead with Ukraine. As a capitalist, we will sell them any weapons needed to where they can give them away.

EU spends more on Russian oil and gas than financial aid to Ukraine – report

Europe estimated to have bought €22bn of fossil fuels from Russia in 2024 but gave €19bn to support Kyiv

www.theguardian.com

 

[LSU-SIU]

Speaking of Ukranians...

Cool. I think we accept their position. It didn't work out for them. Good luck to them.

 

[Orangeburst]

I bet 10 of 10 of Dems that support Ukraine would sell them down the river if it meant Trump leaving the office.

 

[LSU-SIU]

I bet 10 of 10 of Dems that support Ukraine would sell them down the river if it meant Trump leaving the office.

Just ask Elon.

 

[Orange_Crush]

I bet 10 of 10 of Dems that support Ukraine would sell them down the river if MSNBC said to.

FYP

 

[DaddyChad]

I'm not a Trump supporter but hasn't the schtick from the left, possibly even you that trump was just a reactionary bully, that he isn't capable of thinking through complexities etc?

So now he's a master baiter?

I'm not convinced this was staged, but I'd say is possible. I think it a little more likely that Trump was counting on a quick deal with signatures but Zelenski balked and the rest was just frustration from both sides

I also believe it a bad idea to have that due down with cameras if a deal hadn't been agreed to.

Idk if it was staged or not but there definitely was a point where the tone dramatically changed. Didn’t seem prepped or scripted. That “you will feel it” definitely pissed off Trump and company