War in Ukraine

[VolStrom]

Used to do work at a casket manufacture and had to quit because I would have employees flat out refuse to go back.

That's weird. We just had nasty stinky smells and heat. Why would anyone freak out over a casket maker?

 

[IluvdoubleD's]

I saw two people dancing in the street today. i like it. Shut it getting back to normal.

 

[evillawyer]

LMAO

 

[apevol]

Sort of.

 

[hog88]

That's weird. We just had nasty stinky smells and heat. Why would anyone freak out over a casket maker?

All work had to be done between 7pm on Friday and midnight on Sunday. Only accesses to to the scrubbers was to be on hands and knees the entire time, so basically you were wet, cold and worked for 30 some hours straight to meet their deadlines.

 

[VolStrom]

All work had to be done between 7pm on Friday and midnight on Sunday. Only accesses to to the scrubbers was to be on hands and knees the entire time, so basically you were wet, cold and worked for 30 some hours straight to meet their deadlines.

I understand. I'm guessing you have had a few thousand employees by now. My condolences.

 

[0nelilreb]

She was dumb enough to put it on and let them get a picture…. SMH. It was back in 2014
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That pink hat doesn’t disturb me , she has always seemed like she would do anything for a political boost up . What I don’t like is “ManBearPig “ over on the right wearing a Tennessee orange tie.

 

[NCFisher]

G.O.P.-Led Senate Panel Details Ties Between 2016 Trump Campaign and Russia (Published 2020)

You're welcome, and make sure you read it.

Paywalled and I'm already familiar with it.
Again, what is your best example that Trump cahooted with Russia? Take an excerpt from the article..

 

[Sea Ray]

G.O.P.-Led Senate Panel Details Ties Between 2016 Trump Campaign and Russia (Published 2020)

You're welcome, and make sure you read it.

Like the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, who released his findings in April 2019, the Senate report did not conclude that the Trump campaign engaged in a coordinated conspiracy with the Russian government — a fact that Republicans seized on to argue that there was “no collusion.”

But the report showed extensive evidence of contacts between Trump campaign advisers and people tied to the Kremlin — including a longstanding associate of the onetime Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort, Konstantin V. Kilimnik, whom the report identified as a “Russian intelligence officer.”

So there were "contacts" but "no coordinated conspiracy". Nowhere does it state what if anything these contacts did.

In other words, you got nothing

 

[Pacer92]

Good read..

Pity the Nation

 

[MontyPython]

Hope you are enjoying your laugh. I like to spread north and joy in this sad world
But tell me, what in your indirect quotes of Trump is in fundamental Opposition to the point I was making, namely that Trump believes that NATO needs to pay its own way? Which is exactly what is happening. It really sounds like you are seconding my point. I thank you heartily.

Your point that Trump wanted all NATO countries to pay at least 2% is correct - a policy I agree with.

But at the end of the day, Trump wanted the US out of NATO... per his own words.

Let's not pretend Trump ever supported NATO.

 

[davethevol]

What’s China up to here?China to provide Ukraine humanitarian aid, praises Russia ties

 

[Orangeburst]

What’s China up to here?China to provide Ukraine humanitarian aid, praises Russia ties

When the nation is decimated, the Russians are going to need CCP investment for the rebuild...ie control.

 

[AM64]

A oil embargo will do nothing unless every country is 100% on board. China would probably buy every drop that Russia could pull out of the ground. We need to be leveraging any power we have with OPEC countries as well as increasing domestic production to drive the price of oil down which would have the same result.

In a way it's like the world's oil supply goes into one big pot and gets redistributed anyway so nobody has to pretend they buy it from so and so. If we don't buy Russian oil, China will, and we'll buy more from the big pot that China didn't take. Not saying we shouldn't do sanctions, but we are simply paying China through our other trade to buy Russian oil. That's why globalism vs nationalism is a stupid game; if you aren't looking out for number one, you are losing. Biden is not only not looking out for number one; he and his cronies are bending number one over and screwing it royally. The real lesson is that we should have destroyed the price fixers - OPEC - years ago.

 

[hog88]

I understand. I'm guessing you have had a few thousand employees by now. My condolences.

Nowhere close

 

[Franklin Pierce]

Hundreds of civilians have today been fleeing the city of Irpin, to the west of Kyiv, after it came under heavy attack by Russian forces in recent days while Putin's men try to encircle the capital

Elderly people and families with children are helped across a fast-flowing river underneath a destroyed road bridge outside Irpin, a city to the west of Kyiv, which Russian forces have been attacking

People rush to the train as an officer takes children and women first at the central train station in Odessa on March 7

A father breaks down in tears as he says goodbye to his family in front of an evacuation train at the central train station in Odessa

A child cries as she waves at her mother as people board a bus in Odessa in an effort to flee Russia's invasion

A woman in a wheelchair is assisted by local residents as she is evacuated from Irpin

A woman carries her pet cat as evacuees cross a destroyed bridge as they flee the city of Irpin, northwest of Kyiv

Horrifying images have laid bare the refugee crisis in Ukraine as Russia continues to shell civilians trying to flee bomb-ravaged cities, after Kyiv rejected Moscow's offer to open 'humanitarian corridors' when it emerged that some of the routes led straight to its territory.

Ukraine war: Up to 5M refugees will flee if bombing continues, EU warns | Daily Mail Online

 

[evillawyer]

Cost of a credit default swap on $10,000 of Russian debt has gone from $124 at the end of 2021 to ... $2,619.

Vlad clearly went to the very stable genius school of strategy.

 

[AM64]

The Ruble traded for more than 1,000 to the dollar in the early/mid 90s. They price control a lot of things for their citizens in order to soften the blow of runaway inflation, think gas and food staples, plus they have universal healthcare coverage. I wouldn't want to trade places with a Russian but their economy is designed for them to survive without participating in the global economy. I think that what we should be more worried about is the conversion of the petrodollar to a petroyuan, which our current self-inflicted inflation is only hastening.

It would make little sense for the world to deal in a manipulated yuan except corporate and elites with power are deriving a lot of wealth from people who think Chinese products are a bargain. It's a problem of government debt, government/corporate policy, trade imbalance, and currencies not linked to anything tangible. You also have to add in the hypocrisy/stupidity of countries who have regulated industries out of existence in the name of the environment and given the worst polluters a complete pass. It's done over there behind mostly closed doors, so what we can't see, we can pretend doesn't exist ... including slavery and racial inequality.

 

[IluvdoubleD's]

"It's a problem of government debt,"
This is the most true thing I have ever read.

 

[Septic]

Paywalled and I'm already familiar with it.
Again, what is your best example that Trump cahooted with Russia? Take an excerpt from the article..

12ft – Hop any paywall

 

[VolStrom]

In a way it's like the world's oil supply goes into one big pot and gets redistributed anyway so nobody has to pretend they buy it from so and so. If we don't buy Russian oil, China will, and we'll buy more from the big pot that China didn't take. Not saying we shouldn't do sanctions, but we are simply paying China through our other trade to buy Russian oil. That's why globalism vs nationalism is a stupid game; if you aren't looking out for number one, you are losing. Biden is not only not looking out for number one; he and his cronies are bending number one over and screwing it royally. The real lesson is that we should have destroyed the price fixers - OPEC - years ago.

So you're saying that we can't make our own oil and employ Americans, and that we need to buy our oil off of the open market? Biden destroyed the North American oil market on day one with the stroke of a pen. We went from keeping our money to sending it to dictators thanks to one stupid brain dead idiot.

 

[LouderVol]

But ethnic Russians in Donbas were being shelled by the Ukrainians.

You mean the people who took up armed rebellion while being supported by a foreign nation?

 

[Septic]

Cost of a credit default swap on $10,000 of Russian debt has gone from $124 at the end of 2021 to ... $2,619.

Vlad clearly went to the very stable genius school of strategy.

Vlad says he has a PhD in economics, but I don't think much of Trump University degrees.

 

[AM64]

It’s not stupid, it’s a brilliant plan that began over a decade ago.

The operative word with Obama isn't stupid; it more duplicitous or traitorous. The guy has an agenda, and it isn't that of the everyday American.

 

[NCFisher]

12ft – Hop any paywall

You're a good dude, Sep, and I'll use that in the future.

In this instance, I'm familiar with the senate investigation and will let Luth post his best, rather than a point by point of what is essentially rehashing the whole Mueller report.