What are legitimate reasons for divorce?

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droski said:
Standard: cheating, lying, stealing etc. I don't believe not believing in god is a sin.
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You have never stolen? Never been selfish or covetous or greedy? Never been drunk? Never failed to lover the Lord thy God with all your heart, mind, and soul and your neighbor as yourself? You have never lied? Never cheated? Never hated or been angry without just cause?

Unbelief is listed as a sin but there are plenty more that make a man just as guilty of rebelling against God.

Romans 1:18-32
 
#177
#177
What I'd your spouse is gay, won't "change," bit hasn't cheated on you?
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IPorange said:
Also, if there is a sin god can't forgive, then he isn't god.
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Very true but not for the reasons you think.

God's attributes include love, mercy, and grace but also justice. This is why the economy of the Gospel was necessary.

Justice demands a payment for sin. Love demands a means of forgiveness.

Jesus had to be sinless or else His death would have simply been the just punishment for His own sin. He died a horrible death and bore the full force of God's wrath for the sins of mankind. Christ became the substitute for all who would believe on Him and call on Him for forgiveness with a repentant heart and willing to "take up their cross and follow Him".

He will forgive any sin but only through Christ. John 14:6
 
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sjt18 said:
1 Cor 7:4-5

It is sinful for spouses to deny each other.
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And this is one of many places where the Bible loses me. That is such an archaic rule to make.

I'd imagine that if I ever became religious, I'd focus more on my relationship with God rather than the teachings of a book written by man.

Going back to what droski said about God recognizing the good in people regardless of their faith, I would agree with that wholeheartedly. Stories like the good Samaritan, to me, seem as though God would recognize a person for their deeds and not their exoteric strength. I mean, the thought that God would send a good man to hell for simply being ambivalent about His existence would further turn me off. I know you or someone else is going to spew out some "these aren't your rules to make" crap, but that's my input.
 
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DinkinFlicka said:
And this is one of many places where the Bible loses me. That is such an archaic rule to make.

I'd imagine that if I ever became religious, I'd focus more on my relationship with God rather than the teachings of a book written by man.

Going back to what droski said about God recognizing the good in people regardless of their faith, I would agree with that wholeheartedly. Stories like the good Samaritan, to me, seem as though God would recognize a person for their deeds and not their exoteric strength. I mean, the thought that God would send a good man to hell for simply being ambivalent about His existence would further turn me off. I know you or someone else is going to spew out some "these aren't your rules to make" crap, but that's my input.
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Except you can't ignore the Bible as it is the Word of God. God inspired and influenced the people writing it.

1 Thessalonians 2:13 (New International Version)

13And we also thank God continually because, when you received the word of God, which you heard from us, you accepted it not as the word of men, but as it actually is, the word of God, which is at work in you who believe.
 
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#1ArencibiaFan said:
Except you can't ignore the Bible as it is the Word of God. God inspired and influenced the people writing it.

1 Thessalonians 2:13 (New International Version)

13And we also thank God continually because, when you received the word of God, which you heard from us, you accepted it not as the word of men, but as it actually is, the word of God, which is at work in you who believe.
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The Bible is the word of God because the Bible says so.
 
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droski said:
Standard: cheating, lying, stealing etc. I don't believe not believing in god is a sin.
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Do you consider these sins ?

1 Corinthians 6:9-11 (King James Version)

9Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

10Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. 11And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.
 
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sjt18 said:
You have never stolen? Never been selfish or covetous or greedy? Never been drunk? Never failed to lover the Lord thy God with all your heart, mind, and soul and your neighbor as yourself? You have never lied? Never cheated? Never hated or been angry without just cause?

Unbelief is listed as a sin but there are plenty more that make a man just as guilty of rebelling against God.

Romans 1:18-32
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No. very rarely. being drunk isn't a sin. don't even know that that means. very rarely have lied in my life. no never cheated. very rarely.

I didnt' say i was without sin completely, just that i'm live without sin far more than the average person.
 
#187
#187
The average person is going to be cast into hell and tortured for all eternity by their loving God. Duh.
 
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droski said:
as long as you don't hurt other people i could care less what you do
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from a forgotten philosopher:

Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law
Until you violate the rights of another
Respect the space of your sister and your brother
 
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droski said:
No. very rarely. being drunk isn't a sin. don't even know that that means. very rarely have lied in my life. no never cheated. very rarely.

I didnt' say i was without sin completely, just that i'm live without sin far more than the average person.
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The Bible doesn't agree with you...

1 Corinthians 6:10
Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
 
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IPorange said:
According to you, there is no good enough outside of Christ.

I'm clear on that part of Christianity.
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I can not take credit for that little detail.
There is no "good enough" inside of Christ either. Heaven is a perfect place where there will be no sin. That is why God gives grace to any man that asks for it.

OK, I am done preaching. Carry on!
 
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T-TownVol said:
I can not take credit for that little detail.
There is no "good enough" inside of Christ either. Heaven is a perfect place where there will be no sin. That is why God gives grace to any man that asks for it.

OK, I am done preaching. Carry on!
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Fair enough. You didn't coin the concept. I should have said, "according to your beliefs."
 
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droski said:
then half of the pastors i know are going to hell.
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I have been reading your post for a couple of years, you are an intelligent person.

You know that everyone is not what they proclaim to be.

There are many false prophets and deceivers in this world.

Matthew 24.

4. And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.

5. For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.

11. And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
 
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#200
these are legitimate reasons for divorce:

Refusal or inability to consummate the marriage (inability or refusal to have sex)

Bigamy, incest (being married to someone else, or close relatives)

Duress (being forced or coerced into marriage against one's will or serious external pressure, for example a pregnancy)

Mental incapacity (considered unable to understand the nature and expectations of marriage)

Lack of knowledge or understanding of the full implications of marriage as a life-long commitment in faithfulness and love, with priority to spouse and children.

One/both partners was under the influence of drugs, or addicted to a chemical substance.
 
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