What's best for the future of UT football: Dooley teams win or... (merged)

#351
#351
GahLee said:
No...I said credit him with 12 out of 25 if you want...I say he should get credit for 8 EE's...please read posts more than once if need be...geez.
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Here's the quote I was referencing:

GahLee said:
"I feel differently, other than the 8 EE's it is Dooley's class."
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I'm obviously slow, but let me see if I can piece this all together from the intricacies of your argument:

We signed 25 guys this NSD.

But you credit 8 of those EE's to X.

And then you credit him with four (4) more.

8 + 4 = 12

25 * 50% = 12.5

So, by your own admission, X is to be credited with the signing of HALF OF THE CLASS....but otherwise, it was all DD.

HALF THE CLASS.

So, let's say that you only give him credit for the 8 EE's. THAT'S STILL 1/3 OF THE ENTIRE CLASS. ONE THIRD.

What are you not following in all of this, Corky?

At least just be honest and simply say, "Crediting DD with hauling in this recruiting class, while a wholly untrue and utterly indefensible position, provides "proof" of my nonsensical belief that he will be a great coach." and hence, I simply choose to believe it because I want to do so, though such will be in complete ignorance of even those facts which I, myself, have only recently purported to be true.

Simply, just say, "I'd like to believe this is true. I want to believe this is true." - but don't expect or assume that everyone else requires the use of a similiar emotional Snuggie.
 
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#355
Tenacious D said:
Here's the quote I was referencing:



I'm obviously slow, but let me see if I can piece this all together from the intricacies of your argument:

We signed 25 guys this NSD.

But you credit 8 of those EE's to X.

And then you credit him with four (4) more.

8 + 4 = 12

25 * 50% = 12.5

So, by your own admission, X is to be credited with the signing of HALF OF THE CLASS....but otherwise, it was all DD.

HALF THE CLASS.

So, let's say that you only give him credit for the 8 EE's. THAT'S STILL 1/3 OF THE ENTIRE CLASS. ONE THIRD.

What are you not following in all of this, Corky?

At least just be honest and simply say, "Crediting DD with hauling in this recruiting class, while a wholly untrue and utterly indefensible position, provides "proof" of my nonsensical belief that he will be a great coach." and hence, I simply choose to believe it because I want to do so, though such will be in complete ignorance of even those facts which I, myself, have only recently purported to be true.

Simply, just say, "I'd like to believe this is true. I want to believe this is true." - but don't expect or assume that everyone else requires the use of a similiar emotional Snuggie.
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I said credit him with 12 out of 25, IF YOU WANT TO...I on the other hand will only give him credit for the 8 EE's....you moron.
 
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oregonvol said:
Hamilton's job is not to try for big names. Anyone could be AD if that was all that was required. His job is to get big names and he failed miserably.
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Yeah, maybe so, but this is a thread about Dooley and how he's going to fail miserably, remember?
 
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#358
utmba93 said:
Out of 12 BCS NC games, the SEC Champ has won half. Are you suggesting that the Vols can only win it on occasions when the conference is down?
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Nope...not what I'm saying.

I expect UT to win the SEC on occasion, if by chance, winning the SEC lands us in the NT game...awesome, otherwise, nothing wrong with going to a BCS game very 3 years.
 
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GahLee said:
I said credit him with 12 out of 25, IF YOU WANT TO...I on the other hand will only give him credit for the 8 EE's....you moron.
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Do you agree that 8 of 25 is nearly 1/3?

Would you say that 1/3 of the class is a significant proportion?

I'm a moron. I don't know. Help me out.
 
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Ok, so here is the logical question we can gather from this thread....Who?

Tell me "the guy" you'd have hired and how much you would've paid.
 
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UTVOL02 said:
Yeah, maybe so, but this is a thread about Dooley and how he's going to fail miserably, remember?
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'Miserably' describes what he did at LA Tech. Mediocrity is the considered alternative.

The question is which is better for the future of the program?
 
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timmy said:
I fail to see how having a losing record in the WAC proves that he can be a championship coach.
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I really, really, reeeeaaaallly want it to mean that, ok?

Doesn't that make it so?

I'm pretty sure it did. Double-check me.
 
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oregonvol said:
it starts at the top.
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It sure does. I agree completely. But the fact is that Dooley is our HC. That's not going to change before he gets a chance to stand on the sidelines for a season or two so what makes you so certain he's the wrong man for the job?
 
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#367
timmy said:
I fail to see how having a losing record in the WAC proves that he can be a championship coach.
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It doesn't. It doesn't mean he won't be a championship winning coach here either. Ask Auburn fans if they're excited about their future with Gene "losing record at my previous HC job" Chizik.
 
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Tenacious D said:
Do you agree that 8 of 25 is nearly 1/3?

Would you say that 1/3 of the class is a significant proportion?

I'm a moron. I don't know. Help me out.
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Well at least you honest, one good quality is nothing to be ashamed of.

And yes, 8 out of 25 is almost a 1/3 of the class, what is your point, I gave Kiffin ( or X as you know him ) credit for that, other than that, Dooley and his staff deserve the credit for where the class stands.

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utmba93 said:
'Miserably' describes what he did at LA Tech. Mediocrity is the considered alternative.

The question is which is better for the future of the program?
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You still haven't answered my question, why are you so convinced he's not able to take UT to a championship level again?
 
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#370
tigervol9802 said:
I just like fans who bemoan a coach before he's coached his first spring practice. I am throughly convinved if this had happened in 2004 and we'd snagged Meyer that the same people would have complained.
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I, for one, would not be complaining if we hired a coach coming off an undefeated season and a BCS win. I doubt many people on here would. Heck, I wouldn't even be on here complaining if Dooley had gone 8-5 again last year at La Tech. But he went 4-8. Just to put that in perspective, if he does that again this year with UT, then it will be our losing-est season in 100 years.
 
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GahLee said:
Well at least you honest, one good quality is nothing to be ashamed of.

And yes, 8 out of 25 is almost a 1/3 of the class, what is your point, I gave Kiffin ( or X as you know him ) credit for that, other than that, Dooley and his staff deserve the credit for where the class stands.

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It's preposterous to give Dooley credit for the remaining 17.
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UTVOL02 said:
It sure does. I agree completely. But the fact is that Dooley is our HC. That's not going to change before he gets a chance to stand on the sidelines for a season or two so what makes you so certain he's the wrong man for the job?
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4-8 last year. 17-20 overall. I thought that was pretty clear.
 
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utmba93 said:
If he can't win in the WAC after three seasons, he can't win in the SEC.
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Gene Chizik couldn't win in the Big 12 but he did ok in the SEC last season and has a pretty solid class coming in this year too. Next...
 
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BigPapaVol said:
It's preposterous to give Dooley credit for the remaining 17.
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Ok, then, give him credit for 13 if you want.

It's an opinion and no, it isn't preposterous.

Pair, Palardy, Fulton, Dixon were committed before Dooley was hired and still signed.

I would be very interested to see what those players had to say about their decisions to stay at UT despite Kiffin leaving and what role Dooley had...either way, it's just an opinion.
 
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