Who Sabotaged The Nordstream Pipelines?

[hog88]

It’s just not likely Hersh can get that much detail from a single source.

Only if he's talking to someone in the WH, maybe JSOC or CIA.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Only if he's talking to someone in the WH, maybe JSOC or CIA.

And those people are true believers.

 

[hog88]

And those people are true believers.

Any of them completely read in would be, no doubt about that.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

So we just destroyed billions of dollars of infrastructure partly owner by one of strongest Allies of the past 70 years? Also polluted waters in the Baltic that wash up on the shores of our Scandinavian Allies that care deeply about the environment? . Diplomatically that is an absolute garbage fire if not an outright act of aggression

So now US critical infrastructure is open to be targeted.

The US is a terrorist state.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Wasn't Hersh the guy that claimed we shot down some plane or something like that? I know he had one of these stories before that didn't exactly pan out.

His reporting is pretty impeccable. I would put him up against any reporter out here.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

I have no idea who did it but I don't understand the Russia did it angle.

Seems they could just shut it down if they wanted to starve W Europe of oil/gas and that they presumably would want to resume the flow once things settled down with Ukraine - destroying it makes the post war revenue problematic at best.

If they did it to blame it on US then they sure didn't push that angle very hard and it's not sure what the end game would be in doing so.

What am I missing about why Russia would do it?

Yeah, Russia sabataged their own pipeline in waters controlled by NATO friendly countries. And these countries proceeded to control the area during the "investigation".

Had the explosion occurred near Kaliningrad, I might (might) entertain the idea that Russia did it.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Senator Mike Lee said something along the lines of we better hope this isn’t true, as it would be an act of war committed by the US. The fact that more info isn’t coming out to show that Russia did it is concerning.

The Seymour Hersch story also made the assertion that we used former military guys to do the deed, which allowed them to bypass Congressional notification. The RINO Republicans won't do s#!t, but this would be more worthy of an impeachment than anything else.

 

[davethevol]

The more I hear people discussing this, the more I think we did it. This is going to get bad.

 

[TVOLS]

The more I hear people discussing this, the more I think we did it. This is going to get bad.

Silence says it all! IMO

 

[TheDeeble]

It’s an interesting story. And I’ve yet to hear a believable reason for Russia to destroy their own pipeline.

But it’s still based on a single anonymous source. Need more behind it than that to mean something imo.

 

[illumiVOLi]

The Seymour Hersch story also made the assertion that we used former military guys to do the deed, which allowed them to bypass Congressional notification. The RINO Republicans won't do s#!t, but this would be more worthy of an impeachment than anything else.

If the US used mercs and went around congress and the dod and sabotaged the pipeline under the guise of an “exercise”. Ooh buddy

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

If the US used mercs and went around congress and the dod and sabotaged the pipeline under the guise of an “exercise”. Ooh buddy

I never would have believed that the US would be directly involved in this. I was leaning more to the idea of using a proxy like the UK or Poland to provide plausible deniabilty. But this is one step beyond even a false flag attack... they are openly embracing taking credit for it it seems like... not really trying too hard to even frame it as a Russian attack.

These guys crossed the Rubicon if they really did bypass congress in this manner..

 

[RikidyBones]

Let's not lose sight of the fact that Bama came in 3rd in votes.

I voted Bama and stand by it.

 

[illumiVOLi]

I never would have believed that the US would be directly involved in this. I was leaning more to the idea of using a proxy like the UK or Poland to provide plausible deniabilty. But this is one step beyond even a false flag attack... they are openly embracing taking credit for it it seems like... not really trying too hard to even frame it as a Russian attack.

These guys crossed the Rubicon if they really did bypass congress in this manner..

If the report is true and Blinken comes out to say that this a good opportunity to get Europe off of fossil fuels and basically forcing these countries to arm Ukraine because of “Russia’s” desire to cut them off. It could get really bad. Is that not basically an act of war?

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

If the report is true and Blinken comes out to say that this a good opportunity to get Europe off of fossil fuels and basically forcing these countries to arm Ukraine because of “Russia’s” desire to cut them off. It could get really bad. Is that not basically an act of war?

It technically is an act of war, but since Germany is a slave/occupied state to the US, the Germans will thank us for bombing the pipelines.

Japan and South Korea are no better when it comes time to start war against China...

 

[clarksvol00]

I never would have believed that the US would be directly involved in this. I was leaning more to the idea of using a proxy like the UK or Poland to provide plausible deniabilty. But this is one step beyond even a false flag attack... they are openly embracing taking credit for it it seems like... not really trying too hard to even frame it as a Russian attack.

These guys crossed the Rubicon if they really did bypass congress in this manner..

Of course you would have.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Of course you would have.

Not "directly"...

 

[clarksvol00]

Not "directly"...

BS... you'll buy any story you that fits your narrative.

 

[DC_Vol]

BS... you'll buy any story you that fits your narrative.

 

[clarksvol00]

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He didn't have a story from an anonymous source at that point. Now there's an anonymous source he can hang his hat on.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

He didn't have a story from an anonymous source at that point. Now there's an anonymous source he can hang his hat on.

Seymour Hersch isn't exactly a journalist at the Weekly World News writing about Batboy.

 

[rekinhavoc]

Can we change our vote?

 

[clarksvol00]

Seymour Hersch isn't exactly a journalist at the Weekly World News writing about Batboy.

Maybe if Hersch keeps it up he can resurrect his career to the status of Bat Boy reporter. Some light reading on anonymous sources for you.

I'm not sure about Kaitlyn Collins, but...



Unknown/anonymous source she tweeted about.

What if I use anonymous sources or "those close to the White House"?

One of the very first things they need to do is clamp down on "anonymous sources" or "those close to" or "those that have knowledge of" type stories.

I'm sure you're going to have some explanation about how this is different though.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Maybe if Hersch keeps it up he can resurrect his career to the status of Bat Boy reporter. Some light reading on anonymous sources for you.





I'm sure you're going to have some explanation about how this is different though.

The difference is that he has a 50+ year track record.

 

[clarksvol00]

The difference is that he has a 50+ year track record.

Yeah, and some of the items in that record were pretty questionable, but sure forget all that, "but anonymous sources," that used to get thrown around if it fits the narrative.