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#101
#101
BigOrangePassion1 said:
What are you talking about? Are you talking about throwing the ball way too hard and over the head of a reciever 5 yds away? In that case ill give simms the nod.
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I know this is a difficult concept to grasp, but arm strength and accuracy are two completely different things. As you are the holder of the clue, i would expect you to know this.
 
#102
#102
BigOrangePassion1 said:
Who said it was. Matt simms' arm strength is nothing but below average. Christian ponder's is average at best. And everyone knows this.
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If Matt Simms is below average and Christian Ponder is average, BJ Coleman is somewhere between 100 percent crap and my grandmother.
 
#103
#103
emainvol said:
I know this is a difficult concept to grasp, but arm strength and accuracy are two completely different things. As you are the holder of the clue, i would expect you to know this.
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Let me explain something else to you. The only way anyone would come to the conclusion that matt simms has a strong arm is by watching him fire a short pass about 3 times as hard as it needs to be. Thats it. Has he thrown a pass of more than 40 yds in the air this year?
 
#104
#104
BigOrangePassion1 said:
Let me explain something else to you. The only way anyone would come to the conclusion that matt simms has a strong arm is by watching him fire a short pass about 3 times as hard as it needs to be. Thats it. Has he thrown a pass of more than 40 yds in the air this year?
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Or by trusting people that scout for a living. You know, the ones that said his arm was 2nd strongest of a group that included at least two damn cannons
 
#106
#106
emainvol said:
If Matt Simms is below average and Christian Ponder is average, BJ Coleman is somewhere between 100 percent crap and my grandmother.
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I see you are trying to stray form the arm strength topic so let me break this down for you. When it comes to playing the position of QB, Christian Ponder is 1 of the top 10 college QBs. Matt simms is in the bottom 10. Bj coleman would be slightly above average among D-1 QBs. BJ is better than Matt simms at every single aspect of the QB position. Arm Strength included.
 
#107
#107
Christian Ponder must have a noodle arm to be so highly rated amongst draft prospects. You know how much NFL teams love jumping on first round picks that can't row the ball with any distance or velocity.
 
#109
#109
emainvol said:
Or by trusting people that scout for a living. You know, the ones that said his arm was 2nd strongest of a group that included at least two damn cannons
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NO, you mean the ONE who said that. And he said that because Matt simms was supposed to be the "surprise" of the group. Well hes been terrible. So it looks like he was wrong on that as well.
 
#110
#110
BigOrangePassion1 said:
I see you are trying to stray form the arm strength topic so let me break this down for you. When it comes to playing the position of QB, Christian Ponder is 1 of the top 10 college QBs. Matt simms is in the bottom 10. Bj coleman would be slightly above average among D-1 QBs. BJ is better than Matt simms at every single aspect of the QB position. Arm Strength included
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So nice to have Matt Millen on the board
 
#113
#113
BigOrangePassion1 said:
Christian Ponder does not have a strong arm.
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it's plenty strong and Jefferson has a hammer of an arm. Making stuff up doesn't help your argument.

Simms' lone strength as a QB is heat. He has little else to work with. You make yourself look silly minimizing what everyone knows to be a strength, just to make yourself feel better about Coleman's noodle (and I meant arm).
 
#115
#115
BigPapaVol said:
it's plenty strong and Jefferson has a hammer of an arm. Making stuff up doesn't help your argument.

Simms' lone strength as a QB is heat. He has little else to work with. You make yourself look silly minimizing what everyone knows to be a strength, just to make yourself feel better about Coleman's noodle (and I meant arm).
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I have seen Ponder make a 30+ yd touchdown pass across his body on the run. Guys with average arms don't do that
 
#116
#116
emainvol said:
Christian Ponder must have a noodle arm to be so highly rated amongst draft prospects. You know how much NFL teams love jumping on first round picks that can't row the ball with any distance or velocity.
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Well his arm strength is rated average by every scout.
 
#119
#119
emainvol said:
You shouldnt have any problem proving that one.
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he means in this thread and he can just point to his post where he deemed it to be true. It's like discussing something with Gibbs. You just have to understand the shifting reality in the discussion.
 
#122
#122
BigOrangePassion1 said:
How about you do it. Google Christian Ponder arm strength
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ahh "google it," the rallying cry of the defeated. Guess what, already did. Nothing but a bunch of fans arguing about it and snippets with nothing about scouts. So, again, prove it.
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#125
#125
OrangeWilly said:
Quite possibly the dumbest thing I have read in a long time. The Barn game will have absolutely no bearing on what happens to UTC, concerning FCS playoffs.

They could lose that game by 80 (which is what could very well happen) and finish second or even third in the conference and earn a bid.

A paid game loss is rather insignificant to an FCS team.
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I guess I don't know enough about the former-UT players team to know how it works.

I for sure didn't know they had expanded it to 20 teams. I didn't see how an 8-3 team would get an at large bid in 16 teams. With 20 it's possible.
 
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