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Actually, I did. 29-12 win. 9-0 on the season. Felt good after the UK beatdown today too.

Nice overreation though. To be honest, i don't even know or care what your point is. What the hell is there to argue about, extensively and with many words, right now? This reeks of drama queen, that's all.

And regarding your assertion, that is reserved for those that make posts that tell me they don't know wtf they are talking about on the field, but act as if they do. Plenty of posters know the games and didn't play. Just so happens the ones that know the least about sports didn't play sports. That's all.

29-12. That is a low scoring basket-ball game. Great defense!
 
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Volly I don't insult near as much as or anywhere as bad as the rest on here do. You know that. I was getting insulted left and right during the season as I was one of very few on here that was trying to get it positive in here. Its funny that I'm told to become a fan of another team by a mod when "so-called fans" months ago were wishing for the team to lose so Dooley would get fired. Just look at the responses I've got in this thread alone. At least I bring my own opinion and lay it out there for it to be picked at. But it seems not many on here like that. I don't mind having dialogue and allow it to influence my opinion just not many on here that are capable of that level of discussion IMO. Just calling me a fool because they are not able to comprehend.

Trust me I read and study threads more than I post. My pov doesn't come from no where but from carefully studying others opinions, facts and from my own experiences.



To be honest I'm a trickle down effect guy. It would be to long for me to get it all down. I keep trying to find time to write it all out but apparently I'm to busy talking to myself in the mirror. Our problems stem from way before Dooley. I do believe that our past season would have turned out way better if the whole Gruden thing never existed. People saw something shiner and IMO engulfed an already warm seat he was on. Brought him done and brought the season down with it, and the players so many say they support.

Way to many factors involved for me to believe less than 3 seasons to get it done because that's what he was given to get the job done. A few improvements I did see real quick..better quality player. Talent, not 5 star, but talented enough to build on once they got older, last season we got spanked by all our major rivals in the 2nd half. This yr we took the fight to them deep into the game. Better OL and running game. Things that had been bad the previous yrs and he said they would be better last spring and they were some of the best in conference. Baby steps was ok with me. It's not all about wins/losses in rebuilding imo but positive movement in a good direction. Most didn't see any cause all they saw was their shiny Gruden and put in there heads all the negativitys about Dooley so he got fired. And they still carry it around.

Btw - thanks for at least trying to grasp my pov.



Yeah thats what I do but its usually when I'm behind your mom...hardy har har. That's seriously the maturity level of your comment so if you are unable to have a discussion son go back to your room. I promise I'm not gonna hurt her. :hi:



Long story of what?? People like u unable to comprehend my pov. I put it all out there for y'all to discuss. If you can't understand it then go back to JR high don't come on here wishing id leave cause you don't get it. If you are unable to hold a conversation with someone that has a different pov then don't respond with something stupid. It's just tells everyone just that.

What you don't like my avatar cause it's dedicated to you as a Grudenite?? Thanks for such a great job of being positive this past season. :good!:


Not gonna do it....
 
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Why were we better with Kiffin?

IMO the Kiffin debacle blew the top off the popsicle stand. And all the issues that had been held under wraps couldn't be held in. Dooley came in to stop the hemoraging but wasn't given enough time to let it heal back to normal before he could truly take advantage of a healed program. That's IMHO.

Now let's not forget Kiffin went 7-6 and Dooley went 6-7 his first yr. Kiffins Bama game was Dooley's LSU game. Many like to harp on the end of the game but don't give him credit for going into BR and giving them a game. Especially when Jefferson runs for a long TD on one of the first plays of the game. I was on the 4th row 30 yd line UT side at that game. All lsu fans before and after told me that Dooley was a good coach and it was a good hire. Many even jokingly said they'd trade miles for him. It was a crazy moment the last few seconds and because I saw it all go down cause it was on my side of the 50 I don't fault Dooley for the 13th man. It's a part of the game.

Also let's not forget that the issue at the end of the unc game caused the NCAA to make a rule change, so that's pretty much saying we got screwed.

Let's not also forget the scedule strength Dooley had to deal with his first season and the other 2. He faced the sec east, which was somewhat down but always tough, the top 3 teams in the SeC west (and one being the eventual NC) and Oregon.

Sorry but gots to move on...

Then you also understanding moving on from the person that shows he's not up to the task of the rebuild? I was all for giving CDD time to get the job done. I was one of his biggest supporters until about halfway through last season.

His team deteriorated. His decisions led to the worst D in UT history. His lack of leadership produced teams that quit on him.

His results proved that he is not the man for the job. I wish him no ill. I have little emotional response. It just is what it is.

I'm hitting the reset button and beginning anew. I am hopeful for the new staff. I see much that gives me hope. Time will tell for them as well, and their results will be what we judge them by, when all is said and done.

Difference in you and I is that I don't think he was given the oppurtunity to show if he was the man for the job. The decision he made on D...U mean moving to 3-4 which all on here was happy about? Everyone knew it was going to be a tough transition, but all were ok with it because our O was going to be stout. People like to only look at the d as the only problem but don't give him any credit for the strides he had on the O. He stuck with Chaney when people wanted him gone, I had started losing faith in him too, and we had one of the greatest Os in UT history. Yes we lost but it showed IMO that Dooley being able to have stability in one area it could be good. Takes time to fix the whole problem. And let's be honest here...Sunsari may or not have been the guy Dooley wanted to hire. So let's consider that in the argument bashing his decisions.

I remember a thread during the season where someone said that he was concerned with the speed of the Os scoring, and how it would affect the D negativly. He got bashed for it just like I am now. I agreed with him, and it was concern of mine. Deerpark (iirc) posted a while back that the coaches were pissed that Bray would change the plays and wouldn't throw the short pass like the play design. I'm certain they wanted to slow the pace of the game down just so the D wouldn't get tired. Unfortunatly they didn't get help from Bray.

Other than the likes of Bray I really didn't see the team quiting on him this past season until the Vandy game. I saw a team that went to the wire and fought hard to the end. The D had its issue but IMHO I think those guys fought thier tails off. They heard all of the negative talk about how bad they were and they fought hard. Honestly IMO the O didn't help them out and left them out hanging. Don't forget that the O fumbled the ball at the end of the USC and miss st game not the D. Remember the O had the chance, given to them by the D, twice to put the mizzou game away in the 4th while the game was 28-21. They scored to tie it up on a play that was made up by DB in the huddle...that's tough to call as a coach IMO. The D played hard and I was proud of them all season, but everyone wanted Gruden and didn't see the good because they wanted Dooley fired cause Gruden was coming accordingly to their brothers neighbors uncles cousins babysitters baby daddy's dog groomers dad...

As you can tell I can go on and on on my opnion over the last few yrs. But I have a lot of people that believe that their insults faze me.

You bring up a great point. The whole system is broken. The first thing a coach needs to bring is a winning attitude. Looking back now I think that may have been one of Dooley's biggest downfalls was not bringing a winning attitude to the team. To be a winning football team you have to have a certain amount of swagger and be able to believe that you are going to win. Dooley basically prepared our team for defeat. Always talking about how terrible we were. Trust me buddy, I jumped on the Dooley train full force. Looking back now I believe I may have been just a little blinded. I do agree with you that he brought a certain amount of stability to the program. I do not think we would have ever gotten back to the level that Tennessee Football belongs at under him.

I see your pt on the winning attitude part but I think he showed it in a different way. He's a lot like me in the approach he took. Which can be a problem as you can tell by people that don't get where you r coming from at first. He came out and told everyone that we are not good. And we weren't. Pt blank. not to the standard we need to be. It wasnt against the players talents, but the whole organizational part of it. The foundation wasn't there. I looked at it as him telling us the fans..."hey we are mess right now and it's going to take time to get it fixed. We have long road to hoe. Ups a downs. Good and bad don't blame these players who are working thier tails off"...and I'm sure he told the players something else to give them confidence they can fight through it.

Don't forget that Dooley grew up around the rabid fanbases of the SEC. He knew he needed to simmer the expectations of the fans or he would be brought down by the infamous Legion of the Miserable. And it happened this past yr. like I said previously if the Gruden crap never was a part of this season IMO it would have turned out different. That negativity engulfed the program and brought down the season come Nov. Again IMHO.

Again I need to get to defending myself. But thanks for changing your approach in the dialogue. :hi:

And why would or should they understand it through "your eyes"? You have an "opinion" just like everyone else, "just an opinion!"

"Through my eyes" is equivalent to "my opinion" imo To bad you didnt see it that way.

Okie Volum, there is a difference between a POV and ignorance, maybe one day you will know the difference. No more comments on your threads from me. Good luck!

Ok bud. :good!: Thanks for feeling like you are so important you had to say something and not back up anything you said. Only a coward would call someone ignorant and then run without saying why. I'm sure your parents are proud of you. :hi:
 
Not gonna do it....

Please, you got Ole Oskie on one of his vol manifesto rants again. I understand your logical analysis and obviously agree. Problem is using logic and common sense with this ignorant dude is a waste of time and effort.
 
IMO the Kiffin debacle blew the top off the popsicle stand. And all the issues that had been held under wraps couldn't be held in. Dooley came in to stop the hemoraging but wasn't given enough time to let it heal back to normal before he could truly take advantage of a healed program. That's IMHO.

Now let's not forget Kiffin went 7-6 and Dooley went 6-7 his first yr. Kiffins Bama game was Dooley's LSU game. Many like to harp on the end of the game but don't give him credit for going into BR and giving them a game. Especially when Jefferson runs for a long TD on one of the first plays of the game. I was on the 4th row 30 yd line UT side at that game. All lsu fans before and after told me that Dooley was a good coach and it was a good hire. Many even jokingly said they'd trade miles for him. It was a crazy moment the last few seconds and because I saw it all go down cause it was on my side of the 50 I don't fault Dooley for the 13th man. It's a part of the game.

Also let's not forget that the issue at the end of the unc game caused the NCAA to make a rule change, so that's pretty much saying we got screwed.

Let's not also forget the scedule strength Dooley had to deal with his first season and the other 2. He faced the sec east, which was somewhat down but always tough, the top 3 teams in the SeC west (and one being the eventual NC) and Oregon.

Sorry but gots to move on...



Difference in you and I is that I don't think he was given the oppurtunity to show if he was the man for the job. The decision he made on D...U mean moving to 3-4 which all on here was happy about? Everyone knew it was going to be a tough transition, but all were ok with it because our O was going to be stout. People like to only look at the d as the only problem but don't give him any credit for the strides he had on the O. He stuck with Chaney when people wanted him gone, I had started losing faith in him too, and we had one of the greatest Os in UT history. Yes we lost but it showed IMO that Dooley being able to have stability in one area it could be good. Takes time to fix the whole problem. And let's be honest here...Sunsari may or not have been the guy Dooley wanted to hire. So let's consider that in the argument bashing his decisions.

I remember a thread during the season where someone said that he was concerned with the speed of the Os scoring, and how it would affect the D negativly. He got bashed for it just like I am now. I agreed with him, and it was concern of mine. Deerpark (iirc) posted a while back that the coaches were pissed that Bray would change the plays and wouldn't throw the short pass like the play design. I'm certain they wanted to slow the pace of the game down just so the D wouldn't get tired. Unfortunatly they didn't get help from Bray.

Other than the likes of Bray I really didn't see the team quiting on him this past season until the Vandy game. I saw a team that went to the wire and fought hard to the end. The D had its issue but IMHO I think those guys fought thier tails off. They heard all of the negative talk about how bad they were and they fought hard. Honestly IMO the O didn't help them out and left them out hanging. Don't forget that the O fumbled the ball at the end of the USC and miss st game not the D. Remember the O had the chance, given to them by the D, twice to put the mizzou game away in the 4th while the game was 28-21. They scored to tie it up on a play that was made up by DB in the huddle...that's tough to call as a coach IMO. The D played hard and I was proud of them all season, but everyone wanted Gruden and didn't see the good because they wanted Dooley fired cause Gruden was coming accordingly to their brothers neighbors uncles cousins babysitters baby daddy's dog groomers dad...

As you can tell I can go on and on on my opnion over the last few yrs. But I have a lot of people that believe that their insults faze me.



I see your pt on the winning attitude part but I think he showed it in a different way. He's a lot like me in the approach he took. Which can be a problem as you can tell by people that don't get where you r coming from at first. He came out and told everyone that we are not good. And we weren't. Pt blank. not to the standard we need to be. It wasnt against the players talents, but the whole organizational part of it. The foundation wasn't there. I looked at it as him telling us the fans..."hey we are mess right now and it's going to take time to get it fixed. We have long road to hoe. Ups a downs. Good and bad don't blame these players who are working thier tails off"...and I'm sure he told the players something else to give them confidence they can fight through it.

Don't forget that Dooley grew up around the rabid fanbases of the SEC. He knew he needed to simmer the expectations of the fans or he would be brought down by the infamous Legion of the Miserable. And it happened this past yr. like I said previously if the Gruden crap never was a part of this season IMO it would have turned out different. That negativity engulfed the program and brought down the season come Nov. Again IMHO.

Again I need to get to defending myself. But thanks for changing your approach in the dialogue. :hi:



"Through my eyes" is equivalent to "my opinion" imo To bad you didnt see it that way.



Ok bud. :good!: Thanks for feeling like you are so important you had to say something and not back up anything you said. Only a coward would call someone ignorant and then run without saying why. I'm sure your parents are proud of you. :hi:



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Difference in you and I is that I don't think he was given the oppurtunity to show if he was the man for the job. The decision he made on D...U mean moving to 3-4 which all on here was happy about? Everyone knew it was going to be a tough transition, but all were ok with it because our O was going to be stout. People like to only look at the d as the only problem but don't give him any credit for the strides he had on the O. He stuck with Chaney when people wanted him gone, I had started losing faith in him too, and we had one of the greatest Os in UT history. Yes we lost but it showed IMO that Dooley being able to have stability in one area it could be good. Takes time to fix the whole problem. And let's be honest here...Sunsari may or not have been the guy Dooley wanted to hire. So let's consider that in the argument bashing his decisions.

I remember a thread during the season where someone said that he was concerned with the speed of the Os scoring, and how it would affect the D negativly. He got bashed for it just like I am now. I agreed with him, and it was concern of mine. Deerpark (iirc) posted a while back that the coaches were pissed that Bray would change the plays and wouldn't throw the short pass like the play design. I'm certain they wanted to slow the pace of the game down just so the D wouldn't get tired. Unfortunatly they didn't get help from Bray.

Other than the likes of Bray I really didn't see the team quiting on him this past season until the Vandy game. I saw a team that went to the wire and fought hard to the end. The D had its issue but IMHO I think those guys fought thier tails off. They heard all of the negative talk about how bad they were and they fought hard. Honestly IMO the O didn't help them out and left them out hanging. Don't forget that the O fumbled the ball at the end of the USC and miss st game not the D. Remember the O had the chance, given to them by the D, twice to put the mizzou game away in the 4th while the game was 28-21. They scored to tie it up on a play that was made up by DB in the huddle...that's tough to call as a coach IMO. The D played hard and I was proud of them all season, but everyone wanted Gruden and didn't see the good because they wanted Dooley fired cause Gruden was coming accordingly to their brothers neighbors uncles cousins babysitters baby daddy's dog groomers dad...

As you can tell I can go on and on on my opnion over the last few yrs. But I have a lot of people that believe that their insults faze me.

I give CDD credit for his good decisions and responsibility for his poor decisions. Making a scheme change during this transition phase was a huge gamble. Whether people on this site thought it was a great idea or not means zilch. It was CDD's rear end on the line and a gamble that it him.

Hiring a DC with no DC experience was a huge gamble. It bit him hard. It was more than scheme. Even television announcers recognized the problems with the D playcalling ("Why would he call a single safety over the top!? How could he expect not to get gouged deep!?")

You can't really play both sides of the coin. "You people on this forum are stupid." And, "You people on this forum agreed with his decision. It couldn't have been a stupid decision."

lol

And, if you didn't see a team that quit in several games, I'm not sure how to answer that. It was obvious in several games, including UF, etc...

CDD was given the opportunity to prove whether he was the man to turn the program around. Unfortunately, he lived and died by his own decisions and the regression that those decisions brought about.
 
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It does no good to put idiots on ignore if people keep quoting them.

How anyone who watched the Missouri game could still support Dooley is beyond my understanding. Dooley was inept at the most basic points of football understood by Pop Warner coaches. Concepts like use of timeouts and the correct number of players eluded him over and over and cost us games. It was painful to watch our team with far superior talent lose games due to inept coaching.

I'm not sure Butch will bring the Vols back but it was painfully clear that Dooley NEVER would.
 
It does no good to put idiots on ignore if people keep quoting them.

How anyone who watched the Missouri game could still support Dooley is beyond my understanding. Dooley was inept at the most basic points of football understood by Pop Warner coaches. Concepts like use of timeouts and the correct number of players eluded him over and over and cost us games. It was painful to watch our team with far superior talent lose games due to inept coaching.

I'm not sure Butch will bring the Vols back but it was painfully clear that Dooley NEVER would.

Just in case someone had you on ignore.
 
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I give CDD credit for his good decisions and responsibility for his poor decisions. Making a scheme change during this transition phase was a huge gamble. Whether people on this site thought it was a great idea or not means zilch. It was CDD's rear end on the line and a gamble that it him.

Hiring a DC with no DC experience was a huge gamble. It bit him hard. It was more than scheme. Even television announcers recognized the problems with the D playcalling ("Why would he call a single safety over the top!? How could he expect not to get gouged deep!?")

You can't really play both sides of the coin. "You people on this forum are stupid." And, "You people on this forum agreed with his decision. It couldn't have been a stupid decision."

lol

And, if you didn't see a team that quit in several games, I'm not sure how to answer that. It was obvious in several games, including UF, etc...

CDD was given the opportunity to prove whether he was the man to turn the program around. Unfortunately, he lived and died by his own decisions and the regression that those decisions brought about.

I tried to find a compromise with the whole "no one knows if Dooley wasn't forced to hire Sunseri" part but you still want to use that against him. You can't use that against him when you know that it's a strong possibility that he may have been pushed into the hire. Let's be objective here man.

Second...2 different time frames and situations on your "play both sides of the coin" comment. You can take back your "LOL" cause it was a fail. The fact alone that people are acting like its a big deal knowing they were all for it, and knew it would be tough makes them look stupid.

I understand the guy made bold decision and I respect him for it. He wanted to move to 3-4. Saw this past yr as his best shot at it, because the O should of covered up its mistakes. It didn't. For whatever reason. No matter what anyone calls me I stick to my original pt...the fans behavior this past yr is to blame for the down fall of the season and in turn the firing of a coach that IMO wasn't given the opportunity to get the job done he was hired to do. It all stems from the Gruden debacle and how fans wanted something new and shiny and now tacked on another 4-5 yrs to see if we will be back on consistent winning again.

Like it or not y'all you can tell my opnion isn't going to change. No matter how many people call me an idiot. If the fans don't change the way they handle things we're bound to repeat history over and over again. It really isnt that hard to understand. I'm not going to stop putting my opinion out there so enjoy!:hi:
 
I give CDD credit for his good decisions and responsibility for his poor decisions. Making a scheme change during this transition phase was a huge gamble. Whether people on this site thought it was a great idea or not means zilch. It was CDD's rear end on the line and a gamble that it him.

Hiring a DC with no DC experience was a huge gamble. It bit him hard. It was more than scheme. Even television announcers recognized the problems with the D playcalling ("Why would he call a single safety over the top!? How could he expect not to get gouged deep!?")

You can't really play both sides of the coin. "You people on this forum are stupid." And, "You people on this forum agreed with his decision. It couldn't have been a stupid decision."

lol

And, if you didn't see a team that quit in several games, I'm not sure how to answer that. It was obvious in several games, including UF, etc...

CDD was given the opportunity to prove whether he was the man to turn the program around. Unfortunately, he lived and died by his own decisions and the regression that those decisions brought about.


Good post...all my viewpoints summed up better than I could have typed...seeing a lot of hatin on oskie on here and he's responding in a defensive mindset...as attacked posters do...I've followed this board for two years but didn't start posting until last month. In that short time I've gotten into a few tiffs over minor points...while trying to be funny..with other posters. I've started to realize you have to come at people with respect...especially if you disagree with them...this board is booming because there are a lot of intelligent creative viewpoints in the mix and they need to be shared...I believe in Butch and if we're right and he brings success oskie will be right there with us...and welcome...Go Vols!
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Only a coward would call someone ignorant and then run without saying why. I'm sure your parents are proud of you. :hi:

Your posts show you are very good at calling people ignorant if they differ from your "OPINIONS." Most who differ make much more coherent statements than you and leave off the ignorant/idiot slurs you are guilty of.

Problem is using logic and common sense with this ignorant dude is a waste of time and effort.

He seems to have some real anger management issues, treatment is available for that.

I bet you spend a lot of time in front of the mirror looking and listening to yourself talk.

Why is it that YOUR pov is all that matters? We all have one.

Get over yourself.

It is called having an exaggerated sense of importance and relevance.
 
I tried to find a compromise with the whole "no one knows if Dooley wasn't forced to hire Sunseri" part but you still want to use that against him. You can't use that against him when you know that it's a strong possibility that he may have been pushed into the hire. Let's be objective here man.

Second...2 different time frames and situations on your "play both sides of the coin" comment. You can take back your "LOL" cause it was a fail. The fact alone that people are acting like its a big deal knowing they were all for it, and knew it would be tough makes them look stupid.

lol

I understand the guy made bold decision and I respect him for it. He wanted to move to 3-4. Saw this past yr as his best shot at it, because the O should of covered up its mistakes. It didn't. For whatever reason. No matter what anyone calls me I stick to my original pt...the fans behavior this past yr is to blame for the down fall of the season and in turn the firing of a coach that IMO wasn't given the opportunity to get the job done he was hired to do. It all stems from the Gruden debacle and how fans wanted something new and shiny and now tacked on another 4-5 yrs to see if we will be back on consistent winning again.

Like it or not y'all you can tell my opnion isn't going to change. No matter how many people call me an idiot. If the fans don't change the way they handle things we're bound to repeat history over and over again. It really isnt that hard to understand. I'm not going to stop putting my opinion out there so enjoy!:hi:

I think we'll survive and sleep at night despite your opinion. As a matter of fact, as soon as I close this thread, you will cease to exist in my universe until the next time I come across one of your opinions.

I'll sleep well after that one as well.

:hi:
 
I tried to find a compromise with the whole "no one knows if Dooley wasn't forced to hire Sunseri" part but you still want to use that against him. You can't use that against him when you know that it's a strong possibility that he may have been pushed into the hire. Let's be objective here man.

Second...2 different time frames and situations on your "play both sides of the coin" comment. You can take back your "LOL" cause it was a fail. The fact alone that people are acting like its a big deal knowing they were all for it, and knew it would be tough makes them look stupid.

I understand the guy made bold decision and I respect him for it. He wanted to move to 3-4. Saw this past yr as his best shot at it, because the O should of covered up its mistakes. It didn't. For whatever reason. No matter what anyone calls me I stick to my original pt...the fans behavior this past yr is to blame for the down fall of the season and in turn the firing of a coach that IMO wasn't given the opportunity to get the job done he was hired to do. It all stems from the Gruden debacle and how fans wanted something new and shiny and now tacked on another 4-5 yrs to see if we will be back on consistent winning again.

Like it or not y'all you can tell my opnion isn't going to change. No matter how many people call me an idiot. If the fans don't change the way they handle things we're bound to repeat history over and over again. It really isnt that hard to understand. I'm not going to stop putting my opinion out there so enjoy!:hi:

It stemmed from the UK game, then the UF game,UGA, MSU, Bama, USCe, Mizzoo and Vandy. That darn hire Gruden thread was the reason.
 
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Good post...all my viewpoints summed up better than I could have typed...seeing a lot of hatin on oskie on here and he's responding in a defensive mindset...as attacked posters do...I've followed this board for two years but didn't start posting until last month. In that short time I've gotten into a few tiffs over minor points...while trying to be funny..with other posters. I've started to realize you have to come at people with respect...especially if you disagree with them...this board is booming because there are a lot of intelligent creative viewpoints in the mix and they need to be shared...I believe in Butch and if we're right and he brings success oskie will be right there with us...and welcome...Go Vols!
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Welcome. :hi:
 
Your posts show you are very good at calling people ignorant if they differ from your "OPINIONS." Most who differ make much more coherent statements than you and leave off the ignorant/idiot slurs you are guilty of.



He seems to have some real anger management issues, treatment is available for that.



It is called having an exaggerated sense of importance and relevance.

I call people idiots who call me it first so ur pt is mute if you think I have the right to defend myself. I don't have any kind of anger mgmt issues. If that's what you think you may need to get your money back from the online school you got your Message Board Psycology degree. Cause it was a hit and a miss on your diagnosis. I don't have an exaggerated self of importance either. I'm just defending myself, because all y'all think u can attack me without really wanting to understand my pov. I read all y'all responses. Understood your pov. And then responded with mine. Not my problem y'all like to dish it but get all sensitive when it's returned. Not a single one of y'all were capable of changing my opinion even a little. Which honestly is disappointing because that showed me how much of a waste a time it was. I seriously was seeking a true flaw in my opinion.

Btw y'all this type of name calling and disagreeing with my pov on things is not new to me. The discussion tend to be different in person cause it's easier to get what I'm saying out. Happend when i told people i was getting out of the market at the end of 07. With a plan to be completely out by the spring of 08. Got called crazy and an idiot then too. Was also told I was stupid and an idiot when I decided to get back in early 09, picking up companies like GE in the $8 range, citi in the $2-3 range, etc etc etc.

So moral of the story is that y'all can call me an idiot all you want, but this idiot goes by his gut feeling and it's done him pretty good up to this pt. :hi:
 
I call people idiots who call me it first so ur pt is mute if you think I have the right to defend myself. I don't have any kind of anger mgmt issues. If that's what you think you may need to get your money back from the online school you got your Message Board Psycology degree. Cause it was a hit and a miss on your diagnosis. I don't have an exaggerated self of importance either. I'm just defending myself, because all y'all think u can attack me without really wanting to understand my pov. I read all y'all responses. Understood your pov. And then responded with mine. Not my problem y'all like to dish it but get all sensitive when it's returned. Not a single one of y'all were capable of changing my opinion even a little. Which honestly is disappointing because that showed me how much of a waste a time it was. I seriously was seeking a true flaw in my opinion.

Btw y'all this type of name calling and disagreeing with my pov on things is not new to me. The discussion tend to be different in person cause it's easier to get what I'm saying out. Happend when i told people i was getting out of the market at the end of 07. With a plan to be completely out by the spring of 08. Got called crazy and an idiot then too. Was also told I was stupid and an idiot when I decided to get back in early 09, picking up companies like GE in the $8 range, citi in the $2-3 range, etc etc etc.

So moral of the story is that y'all can call me an idiot all you want, but this idiot goes by his gut feeling and it's done him pretty good up to this pt. :hi:

Wow this Oskie fellow is quite impressive. Let's see from the above. First, he get's "picked on quite a lot." Second, he "defends" his positions quite well (maybe an attorney?). Third, he knows the stock market quite well (maybe a financial planner?). Third, his "gut feeling" is remarkable!

Oskie how about some stock advice? A true legend in your own mind! I'm impressed and sorry for even questioning him.
 
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I call people idiots who call me it first so ur pt is mute if you think I have the right to defend myself. I don't have any kind of anger mgmt issues. If that's what you think you may need to get your money back from the online school you got your Message Board Psycology degree. Cause it was a hit and a miss on your diagnosis. I don't have an exaggerated self of importance either. I'm just defending myself, because all y'all think u can attack me without really wanting to understand my pov. I read all y'all responses. Understood your pov. And then responded with mine. Not my problem y'all like to dish it but get all sensitive when it's returned. Not a single one of y'all were capable of changing my opinion even a little. Which honestly is disappointing because that showed me how much of a waste a time it was. I seriously was seeking a true flaw in my opinion.

Btw y'all this type of name calling and disagreeing with my pov on things is not new to me. The discussion tend to be different in person cause it's easier to get what I'm saying out. Happend when i told people i was getting out of the market at the end of 07. With a plan to be completely out by the spring of 08. Got called crazy and an idiot then too. Was also told I was stupid and an idiot when I decided to get back in early 09, picking up companies like GE in the $8 range, citi in the $2-3 range, etc etc etc.

So moral of the story is that y'all can call me an idiot all you want, but this idiot goes by his gut feeling and it's done him pretty good up to this pt. :hi:

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I call people idiots who call me it first so ur pt is mute if you think I have the right to defend myself. I don't have any kind of anger mgmt issues. If that's what you think you may need to get your money back from the online school you got your Message Board Psycology degree.

Actually, it is "MOOT" and "PsycHology.
 
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Wow this Oskie fellow is quite impressive. Let's see from the above. First, he get's "picked on quite a lot." Second, he "defends" his positions quite well (maybe an attorney?). Third, he knows the stock market quite well (maybe a financial planner?). Third, his "gut feeling" is remarkable!

Oskie how about some stock advice? A true legend in your own mind! I'm impressed and sorry for even questioning him.

Never said I got picked on a lot. Just said people tend to heavily disagree with me because my pov tends to sound out of left field. Like I also said which you seemed to not read...my convos in person tend to go different. I'm neither of what you said. I do handle my own portfolio though.

If you want to know what Ive been researching of late, and making moves on the most over the last yr or so, whatever will benefit from the price of Gold going down. Barring any unforeseen crazy political deal or war, ala the Iranians when they needed the price of oil to go up during the oil bubble which i also said would bust and was called crazy. Which honestly is still keeping the price of oil up in the 90s (the iranians) but I digress. People will decide to start dumping gold, which i already did mine, where will be the next safe haven??? Ive gotten into many heated discussions over the last yrs about my view on the highest gold would get and where it will top. I never thought it would hit 2gs. I will be honest i thought the 16-1700 range was the top, so got a little scared when it got into the 1900 range, but it never hit that mark like so many thought it would. Lets say IMHO the US Dollar is looking like a good safe haven. You are welcome my VN friends :hi:
 
It's time to get back to the OP and get away from feeding Oskie's perceived sense of importance.
 

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