Tastylicks
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If he overdosed how could it be murder though? His lungs were full of fluid, that's not a result of asphyxiation froma knee on his neck, forget the fact that was what he was trained and instructed to do. The moment Floyd consumes the lethal dose of drugs his fate was sealed. And judging by the way he was calling for his dead mother I believe in some lucid moments of his delerium he was aware of what was coming. Tragic, but I'm not sure manslaughter is even appropriate here. Based on the ME report and toxicology report reasonable doubt is abundant in this case. Set aside your beliefs or anger and look at the facts in the case and this is loser for the prosecution.third-degree murder is the appropriate charge. In the state of Minnesota 3rd-degree murder does not require intent. The state is just doing its job
95% of the BLM "martyrs" are all BS. Garner, Brown, Rice, Martin, all did the actions that led to their deaths, some violently. It sullies the small number of ACTUAL police brutality or negligence cases there actually are, all because the media and Dems want to get political votes and clicksMy favorite was Michael brown portrayed as a innocent child on his bike.
In most jurisdictions, police aren't allowed to transport emergency medical issues to hospitals themselves due to lawyers suing...Thanks again trial lawyersIt's difficult to know with complete certainty what was wrong and what was right. Even something which might be right according to LEO SOP may not be right to me as a witness. My point from day one is once the person is restrained via cuffs (or whatever), it should not be necessary to keep your weight on his neck. He is restrained, other officers are within a few feet, the danger is essentially mitigated by then.
Floyd's health status, drug intake, heart attack, fluid on the lungs are complicating factors. Had the officers been aware of his health emergency the nearest hospital was 6 min away for a civilian in a car. A police car could have been there in 4 min +/-. Would that have saved George's life? Who knows. But it would have been a preferred course of action than kneeling on him until he expired.
Sometimes stupid rules need breaking. If we grant LEOs discretion to use judgement when interacting with the public, they have discretion on when to transport someone to hospital.In most jurisdictions, police aren't allowed to transport emergency medical issues to hospitals themselves due to lawyers suing...Thanks again trial lawyers
It depends on if they try to over prosecute. Charge him with manslaughter and excessive use of force ( I don’t know what the legal term for that is) and it’s a sure thing to convict him. If they go for murder it could be a different story. Casey Anthony comes to mindI would be shocked if the officer is found guilty
It depends on if they try to over prosecute. Charge him with manslaughter and excessive use of force ( I don’t know what the legal term for that is) and it’s a sure thing to convict him. If they go for murder it could be a different story. Casey Anthony comes to mind
It could be. I believe that was the determination of the first autopsy. I know there was a second one which reached a different verdict but you can see how political/ social pressure could have influenced that decisionlol, no that is not an actual fact. But if it makes you feel better, have at it . Its kinda funny these days that 'facts' can vary based on the strength of conviction of your opinion.
I agree, but mayors/city councils/trial lawyers have made it where they are so worried about lawsuits that they will fire officers who do soSometimes stupid rules need breaking. If we grant LEOs discretion to use judgement when interacting with the public, they have discretion on when to transport someone to hospital.
I understand neither you nor I made these rules. So, not arguing with you. Simply sharing how I see the matter.
All cops have other complaints..... it’s part of the business..... what did he do outside of the job?
I don’t blame him..... I wouldn’t feel like I would get a fair trial.
Yes Chavlin was disciplined multiple times for his behavior.
AND he had run in's with Floyd before, which is hopefully brought up in the trial. It may have been personal. He was not within the 1st cops on the scene anyway, he came in after and like a thug did what he did. Is it possible it was because he didn't like Floyd? hmmmm...
It's difficult to know with complete certainty what was wrong and what was right. Even something which might be right according to LEO SOP may not be right to me as a witness. My point from day one is once the person is restrained via cuffs (or whatever), it should not be necessary to keep your weight on his neck. He is restrained, other officers are within a few feet, the danger is essentially mitigated by then.
Floyd's health status, drug intake, heart attack, fluid on the lungs are complicating factors. Had the officers been aware of his health emergency the nearest hospital was 6 min away for a civilian in a car. A police car could have been there in 4 min +/-. Would that have saved George's life? Who knows. But it would have been a preferred course of action than kneeling on him until he expired.
I haven't watched any of the video. The only exposure I have to the case is what I've read here on the forum. With that said, I do not see what DC did to GF as an overt act of racism. If racism is shown to be part of DC's MO, then I will change my opinion.I'd like to hear more about how police are trained to handle this. Perhaps they're trained to restrain the head so the drugged out guy doesn't hurt his head by banging it into the pavement. I assume there is a reason to retrain his head. We need to hear that testimony. If he went against training then that knee on the neck is damning. That's why we need to hear all the evidence.
Did you see any evidence of racism?
third-degree murder is the appropriate charge. In the state of Minnesota 3rd-degree murder does not require intent. The state is just doing its job
That's debatable. He did receive two metals of Valor but luckily we don't have to decide that here. What exactly did he do wrong here?