Folks lets face it, Hart just sealed our 15 year irrelevance

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BiggyVols said:
Don't get me wrong, Im kind of let down too, but this does not mean the END of Tennessee football. There are some REALLY good names out there for our coach. Unfortunately, this whole Gruden thing has screwed it up for any coach we do get as far as excitement and fan support. Now that i think about it, short of a national name that recruits know, were not even sure Gruden would be a good fit for college ball. Lets get behind someone who HAS college experience. Fisher, Strong, ans some others are good candidates. With experience!
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Yeah...if Patterson was named the next HC at UT, I would see that as a home run hire. Even Tressel if we could not get Patterson.

Yes, it would not look good from a PR perspective, but his show cause was really the result of a silly Michigan fanbase instigated witch hunt. I don't know how the NCAA can legally dictate that an athlete cannot sell or trade their own personal belongings. That is a basic legal right, and to act like it's wrong or an infraction is utterly absurd. Seriously...trading a jersey for a tattoo?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7OWVM50sBw[/youtube]

Tennessee, according to the NCAA ruling, would simply have notify them that they are willing to apply the 5 game + bowl game penalty (he would have to sit those out) they gave him, and report his progress regarding compliance, twice a year for the next 3yrs (the remainder of his show cause). They already do that anyway, with all the NCAA stuff they dealt with over Kiffin's staff.

His salary would probably be about what Dooley's is now...at least for the initial contract period....but what that would allow us to do, is spend big to hire an all-star staff...even poach some NFL coordinators/assistants if need be. I'm sure one priority would be to hire one of those who could hold the fort down for those 5 games.

It should be noted that he already paid the NCAA's penalty last year after being hired as an assistant by the Colts. He was not obligated to do so outside of the NCAA confines, but he did so voluntarily. So, it's certainly plausible that Hart could ask the NCAA to waive or reduce his penalty, on that basis and the fact that he's 2yrs removed from the "infraction."

3 National Championship appearances (won one of those) in the past 10yrs + several conference championships. What other coach, whom we are even considering, has those credentials? Sure there is a tradeoff, but it's worth it, IMHO, compared to what we get in return.
 
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govols105 said:
Stick a fork in it we are done for a long long time as a program. We may have to shut down the university over this one. I don't really think we have any chance of getting a coach who is worth 50 cents now. At least not one that can recruit to help us to get us back. This is going to be worse than when kiffin left. Go Vols!!! All we can hope for is 6 wins a season now for a long time.
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this kind of comment makes me want to hope they have to hire dooley back or raze neyland. "shut down the university"??? god forbid that anyone ever mistake the university of tennessee for an institution of higher learning. if it was up to these guys, dear ole tennessee would be as phony as the university of phoenix (you know--where they play the fiesta bowl).
 
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I am confused... you do know that Santa Clause really is not going to be the next coach of UT...it was a joke...
 
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on this board, people speak of the greatness of tennessee football. a legendary program. one of the greatest programs in the history of the game.

now, some of those same people want to suggest that only one man could possibly lead this program into future success.
 
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99gator said:
on this board, people speak of the greatness of tennessee football. a legendary program. one of the greatest programs in the history of the game.

now, some of those same people want to suggest that only one man could possibly lead this program into future success.
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I don't think anyone thinks only one guy can do it. It's just that he was the most obvious one, the one Hart and the boosters had the least chance of screwing up. We'd probably be fine if they went after Petersen next and offered him the moon (Has he ever turned down 6 million a year? Let's at least make him do that) and then on to Patterson...but we won't. Now we get to witness an AD who has never hired a big time coach, assisted by boosters who thought the Dooley hire was a swell idea, go out there and woo the likes of Al Golden, Butch Davis, and Larry Fedora.
 
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govols105 said:
Stick a fork in it we are done for a long long time as a program. We may have to shut down the university over this one. I don't really think we have any chance of getting a coach who is worth 50 cents now. At least not one that can recruit to help us to get us back. This is going to be worse than when kiffin left. Go Vols!!! All we can hope for is 6 wins a season now for a long time.
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I'm going by CVS later, I'll pick you up a bottle of Summer's Eve.
 
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Hart did not screw this up. There was nothing to screw up. Gruden never wanted to come here, he doesn't want to coach college (at this time) and he is the one who have let these rumors abound. He loves the attention. I would have liked to have had Gruden also but placing blame on hart is not right!
 
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Their are very few people that would be considered a home run hire. Theirs Gruden, Stoops, Patterson, Peterson, and that's about it. Patterson is a the only one left on the board and imo he is unlikely. It will be a much longer road back to the top with an up and coming type coach. The OP is overreacting, but we needed a home run, and it ain't looking good.
 
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anyway so with a non exciting hire coming up what do you think will happen next? face it this hire will not excite the players or recruits. here is one positive we should get our 800th win next season.
 
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govols105 said:
Stick a fork in it we are done for a long long time as a program. We may have to shut down the university over this one. I don't really think we have any chance of getting a coach who is worth 50 cents now. At least not one that can recruit to help us to get us back. This is going to be worse than when kiffin left. Go Vols!!! All we can hope for is 6 wins a season now for a long time.
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Cheer up Alice, Wonderland still has other fairy tail coaches you can dream about. How about Bill Cowher, Tony Dungy or Jimmy Johnson? I'm sure if you rally enough people, you can persuade one of them to come. :)
 
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