Game thread: Ut vs. Lip

#126
#126
ivyleague said:
Because I disagree with your assessment that she's a "bad" coach? Again I say, get a grip. You don't come across as very well adjusted. You come across as a bit obsessed with demanding Holly be replaced because of a couple of losses. I'm merely countering your asinine comments with some sanity. I think the fanbase's obsession with "demanding" a "new and improved" coach after every loss is ridiculous. I don't follow the men's basketball team as closely as I follow the Lady Vols, but I thought the fanbase's treatment of Coach Martin last season was abominable.
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No you're trying to attack me and marginalize me like most liberals do. Most of the fan base is extremely dissatisfied with Holly. Your version of sanity will get this program to nowhere in a hurry. Holly has a very short window to show something or the recruits who have traditionally come to Tennessee will go elsewhere and we will decline into mediocrity.
 
#127
#127
mikey2smart said:
Replacing Holly Warlick. The funny thing is with Izzy in the lineup, we would've won both games we lost. The sad part is you would still be finding some reason for why Holly needs to be replaced. Come on man, lighten up a little bit.
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The fact that you see Izzy as the difference between Tennessee and UTC says more about Holly's coaching than I ever could....
 
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#128
#128
Sandvol said:
No you're trying to attack me and marginalize me like most liberals do. Most of the fan base is extremely dissatisfied with Holly. Your version of sanity will get this program to nowhere in a hurry. Holly has a very short window to show something or the recruits who have traditionally come to Tennessee will go elsewhere and we will decline into mediocrity.
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You seem to have your politics mixed up so take it to the Political Forum!
 
#129
#129
Slydell said:
You seem to have your politics mixed up so take it to the Political Forum!
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Who asked you? She's using typical liberal tactics of attacking the attacker instead of debating Holly's coaching abilities or lack thereof.
 
#130
#130
Sandvol said:
No you're trying to attack me and marginalize me like most liberals do.
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Wow. Now we have paranoia. What is your problem with liberals, and how does that have anything to do with Holly coaching the Lady Vols? If her win-loss record was terrible, if she didn't have two SEC championships under her belt, if the Lady Vols weren't invited to the NCAA tournament, you'd have a case. She has a tremendous record for a third year head coach who took over for a veritable legend in the midst of something more challenging than many of us could ever imagine. Holly was (is) not only dealing with taking over for Pat Summitt but also with Pat's illness, which I'm sure has affected her on a deeply personal level. Give her some credit.

Sandvol said:
Most of the fan base is extremely dissatisfied with Holly.
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Not so. Maybe the a**holes you associate with on this board and perhaps outside of it are dissatisfied. But then, you all seem to have "issues."

Sandvol said:
Your version of sanity will get this program to nowhere in a hurry. Holly has a very short window to show something or the recruits who have traditionally come to Tennessee will go elsewhere and we will decline into mediocrity.
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*yawn*
 
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#131
#131
Sandvol said:
Who asked you? She's using typical liberal tactics of attacking the attacker instead of debating Holly's coaching abilities or lack thereof.
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Attacking the attacker? Slip of the fingers? Perhaps you meant to type messenger instead of attacker, but regardless, your message means nothing to me. Why would I debate Holly's coaching abilities? I think all things considered, she's doing a good job. There isn't anything to debate. All you want to do is whine, b**** and speculate about whom you'd rather have at UT in her place, which is wholly irrelevant, because she isn't going anywhere anytime soon. You may think you are debating, but you come on here to spew hot air. There's no "debate" in you.
 
#132
#132
ivyleague said:
Wow. Now we have paranoia. What is your problem with liberals, and how does that have anything to do with Holly coaching the Lady Vols? If her win-loss record was terrible, if she didn't have two SEC championships under her belt, if the Lady Vols weren't invited to the NCAA tournament, you'd have a case. She has a tremendous record for a third year head coach who took over for a veritable legend in the midst of something more challenging than many of us could ever imagine. Give her some credit.
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SEC championship is nice sweetheart and I giver her credit for that but then she followed it up with an abysmal coaching job and got "outcoached" against Maryland. They looked horrible.

Not so. Maybe the a**holes you associate with on this board and perhaps outside of it are dissatisfied. But then, you all seem to have "issues."
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You just aren't very smart are you? If the poll above is any indication most fans are dissatisfied.

*yawn*
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That's it. You must be sleeping.
 
#133
#133
ivyleague said:
Attacking the attacker? Slip of the fingers? Perhaps you meant to type messenger instead of attacker, but regardless, your message means nothing to me. Why would I debate Holly's coaching abilities? I think all things considered, she's doing a good job. There isn't anything to debate. All you want to do is whine, b**** and speculate about whom you'd rather have at UT in her place, which is wholly irrelevant, because she isn't going anywhere anytime soon. You may think you are debating, but you come on here to spew hot air. There's no "debate" in you.
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Her first year she clearly had a superior team to Louisville and got beat by a better coach in the Elite 8. One year removed from Pat. Her second year she had a better team than Maryland but got beat by a superior coach after her team had built all that momentum from winning the SEC tournament. Very poor coaching job. Now this year she looks even worse. We won't even make it to the Sweet 16 if things keep going as they are.
 
#134
#134
Sandvol said:
SEC championship is nice sweetheart and I giver her credit for that but then she followed it up with an abysmal coaching job and got "outcoached" against Maryland. They looked horrible.
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Sometimes teams lose, little man. Even good ones. Didn't you know that? Or does your entitled ass think every team that plays Tennessee should just roll over and play dead? Holly didn't coach her best game against Maryland, but the players stunk it up, too. The blame for that loss doesn't lie solely with Holly.

Sandvol said:
You just aren't very smart are you? If the poll above is any indication most fans are dissatisfied.
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Anyone who thinks that a message board poll with 100 or so "votes" is an accurate reflection of the views of an entire fanbase is an idiot. Are you 12? Surely that kind of (non)critical thinking isn't what UT is churning out.

Sandvol said:
That's it. You must be sleeping.
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Hardly.
 
#135
#135
Is Warlick a good coach? Look at how we have played, and how we have fared, against solid/good teams since she took over. We've been TERRIBLE--and lost nearly all of them, and in many of them we've not even been close. Texas is not even a great team and we got handled--not so much because texas was good but because we played a pathetic first half and could not recover. When we play a good team, our confidence goes totally in the toilet and we look bad, typically. We've been going through a fairly long transition, and it is true that our recruiting has fallen off, too. We get good players still, but our coaches don't know how to use them. Ct., to name one rival, gets better players than we do and coaches them up even more--and so the gap with the huskies has become pretty big. The only thing I will say in defense of Warlick is that, in fact, Summitt did not leave the program in good shape. She left it in pretty poor shape, really. We'd been slipping for several years before PS finally retired. That was obvious. In fact, except for the interregnum when we got Parker and Anosike, we've been in a fairly long slide.
 
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#136
Sandvol said:
Her first year she clearly had a superior team to Louisville and got beat by a better coach in the Elite 8.
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Mulkey had a superior team as well and got beaten in the Sweet 16. Nobody called for her head. That's the same year VanDerveer's team got beaten by Georgia in the Sweet 16. Nobody called for her head, either. So . . .

Sandvol said:
One year removed from Pat. Her second year she had a better team than Maryland but got beat by a superior coach after her team had built all that momentum from winning the SEC tournament. Very poor coaching job.
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It was a poor on-court performance by the team, as well.

Sandvol said:
Now this year she looks even worse.
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No it doesn't.

Sandvol said:
We won't even make it to the Sweet 16 if things keep going as they are.
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Give it a rest.
 
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#137
#137
armchair said:
We'd been slipping for several years before PS finally retired. That was obvious. In fact, except for the interregnum when we got Parker and Anosike, we've been in a fairly long slide.
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You mean like when they lost in the NC game in 2000, 2003, 2004 and the FF in 2002 and 2005...before back to back titles in 2007/2008? Is that what entails "a fairly long slide"? I get that we all want NCs, but to say that an 8 year stretch where Tennessee went to 5 FFs (including 3 championship games) is "a fairly long slide" is not reality.
 
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#138
ivyleague said:
Sometimes teams lose, little man. Even good ones. Didn't you know that? Or does your entitled ass think every team that plays Tennessee should just roll over and play dead? Holly didn't coach her best game against Maryland, but the players stunk it up, too. The blame for that loss doesn't lie solely with Holly.
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Boy you must really have a woman crush on Holly. Sometimes teams lose a lot. Those aren't good teams. Oh, yeah, blame it on the players. They're getting paid to coach the team. Genius.

Anyone who thinks that a message board poll with 100 or so "votes" is an accurate reflection of the views of an entire fanbase is an idiot. Are you 12? Surely that kind of (non)critical thinking isn't what UT is churning out.
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Better than your anecdotal evidence. You do understand that some evidence is better than no evidence?

Hardly.
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Yeah, hardly.
 
#139
#139
Sandvol said:
Boy you must really have a woman crush on Holly. Sometimes teams lose a lot. Those aren't good teams. Oh, yeah, blame it on the players. They're getting paid to coach the team. Genius.



Better than your anecdotal evidence. You do understand that some evidence is better than no evidence?



Yeah, hardly.
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Worthless drivel. Go to bed, Junior.
 
#140
#140
Amb3096 said:
You mean like when they lost in the NC game in 2000, 2003, 2004 and the FF in 2002 and 2005...before back to back titles in 2007/2008? Is that what entails "a fairly long slide"? I get that we all want NCs, but to say that an 8 year stretch where Tennessee went to 5 FFs (including 3 championship games) is "a fairly long slide" is not reality.
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Pat does have the record for most final four appearances.
 
#142
#142
Sandvol said:
Pat does have the record for most final four appearances.
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I know...that's why the idea that Parker & Co. halted a downward spiral for Tennessee is puzzling. Tennessee spent most of that NC dry spell losing to UConn. It's not like they weren't around in the final weekend.
 
#143
#143
Sandvol said:
Glad your opinion doesn't mean anything.
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Opinions aren't necessarily meant to mean anything to anyone else. That's why they're opinions. I hope to God you didn't graduate from UT. I didn't think their admissions standards were that low.
 
#146
#146
Amb3096 said:
I know...that's why the idea that Parker & Co. halted a downward spiral for Tennessee is puzzling. Tennessee spent most of that NC dry spell losing to UConn. It's not like they weren't around in the final weekend.
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Geno built UCONN into a powerhouse. Too bad Pat lost her faculties because she would still be contending against him.
 
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Sandvol said:
Geno built UCONN into a powerhouse. Too bad Pat lost her faculties because she would still be contending against him.
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Her last season was a disaster. That was a really strong lineup that she had: Kinna, Glory, Meighan, Taber, Baugh...if not for her illness, there's no way that team would have finished the season as badly as they did and ended up with Baylor in the E8 again.
 
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