I think we backed right into the playoffs..

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Other_Guy said:
If OSU and Michigan play a great game I wouldn't be surprised if they let them both in.
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That's a possibility. A wild slugfest like we had against Alabama would almost validate them to keep both in. We have to hope one of them gets dropped cold and toothless in the 1st round .
 
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619Knoxvillian said:
The loser of OSU and Michigan will drop to 5 and that is our ticket no matter who else wins out... We will play Georgia on a turf field where I think our receivers will find much better footing and Dylan Sampson is coming along at the right time... It's almost like we threw that game to avoid a potential late loss in Atlanta... A loss that late in the Season and there is no chance we make it.... Since we were number 1...
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Not true. If we had beaten UGA then we were in regardless of what would have happened in Atlanta.
 
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CR-vol said:
We're not a lock. They will push for a 1 loss PAC12 champion to get in over Tennessee because just like everyone is tired of Alabama winning everyone outside the south is tired of 2 SEC teams in the playoff and they feel sorry for the PAC. Even a 1 loss TCU might get the nod over us if they lose to Baylor but beat Kansas State in their championship game, recency bias, they play that weekend and we don't. Media is in love with TCU and if TCU wins out we're screwed. If OSU/Michigan is a tight loss in a thriller both could get the nod over us. OSU needs to stomp Michigan. We should get in above any of those teams based on SOS but there's bias working against us. All we can do is give beatdowns to SC and Vandy then hope for the best.
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a 1 loss TCU is out. They have a terrible SOS and SOR and that seems to be the biggest metric the committee is using for ranking teams. We need TCU to lose to get in a think. I don't see any other 1 loss team jumping us based on SOS and SOR.
 
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JettVol said:
a 1 loss TCU is out. They have a terrible SOS and SOR and that seems to be the biggest metric the committee is using for ranking teams. We need TCU to lose to get in a think. I don't see any other 1 loss team jumping us based on SOS and SOR.
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Pundits are saying otherwise but I get they are paid to stir up the fans and print stories. One thing about the committee and whatever rules they have on SOS or SOR ultimately they are people making the picks and people can get it wrong. They got it wrong ranking Alabama ahead of TCU in week 1's release.
 
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#107
I think they really want conference champions in the playoff.
Here’s my take on the priority for the four spots…
SEC Champ (UGA/LSU)
Big 10 Champ (OSU/UM)
Undefeated TCU
1 loss UGA (if they lose in SECCG)
1 loss PAC 12 champ USC
1 loss ACC champ Clemson
UT vs OSU/UM loser???
 
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Clayton said:
That’s absolutely ridiculous! Every UGA fan admitted they got their ass whipped by Alabama in the SEC championship. Win and they were in no matter what so why try to lose? Ridiculous statement.
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You live in Georgia? I'll be glad to introduce you to some who still say it. I'm at work, I'll have to go back a year ago to take screenshots of people's Facebook posts, cause they posted it on Facebook. Georgia fans have become like KY basketball fans. Thinking nobody can beat them, and if they lose it was fixed or the refs. I don't care what you, or slow puppy says. I literally live right here, and have heard this crap since Kirby came. Go read Facebook sports sites. I got cussed this weekend for saying Georgia wasn't a dynasty. Georgia fans are so delusional they think 1 title in 41 years is a dynasty. They make Alabama fans look like Einstein.
 
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VolForLife83 said:
Everyone forgetting a possible 1 loss pac12 team. Still need TCU and USC to lose. Heck, even a 1 loss ACC Champion/ Clemson could still jump as later.
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What people seem to be forgetting is that the SEC established it's dominance over the PAC-12 early in the season with UGA crushing Oregon, Florida beating Utah, and MSU blowing out Arizona.

The committee can't look at that and legitimately think it's correct to rank a 1-loss PAC 12 team over a 1-loss SEC team. Conference Championships are NOT an automatic qualifier. Not sure why so many people seem to think they are. It's just one of several things taken into consideration.

If the committee had any intention of putting the ACC Champion ahead of Tennessee it would have been reflected in the most recent rankings, but what we saw was the opposite of a good sign for the ACC. The committee has not one but TWO 2-loss teams ranked ahead of Clemson (10th).... and WE BEAT BOTH OF THEM. The ACC isn't getting in unless we lose a game.

TCU needs to lose in order for us to be ranked ahead of them, but they don't need to lose in order for us to make the playoffs. The only thing that can keep us out at this point is the committee shocking the world by leaving the loser Michigan/OSU ranked ahead of us and I see no way they can do that and maintain any level of respect. The loser of that game will have ZERO quality wins on their resume (unless you count Penn State as a quality win) and we have victories over two current top 10 teams.

A lawsuit is warranted if we win out and don't get in.
 
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VolForLife83 said:
Everyone forgetting a possible 1 loss pac12 team. Still need TCU and USC to lose. Heck, even a 1 loss ACC Champion/ Clemson could still jump as later.
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Of course I've heard a thousand different opinions; but Matt Barrie says that a one loss TCU will still make the playoff.
 
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SLODAWG said:
Bryce Young was great in the SECCG. I wasn't sure of a UGA win in the title game but I did not believe Young could play so well a second time against UGA's defense. That turned out to be true. The Dawgs and Tide were pretty evenly matched. I'll catch a lot of spears for posting this but I don't think TN and UGA are evenly matched. The Vols feast on teams by creating mismatches and scheming guys open. I think UGA has the coaching and personnel to stop or at least limit those kinds of big plays. We've already seen them do it and w/o them, I don't see TN sustaining drives against the UGA defense.
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You make legitimate points. I don't believe that there are many Tennessee fans who would objectively argue that, at this point in time, we are evenly matched with Georgia or Alabama in terms of overall talent or depth. However, in a Tennessee-Georgia rematch on a neutral field, I believe that the outcome would be significantly more competitive, regardless of who wins.

On the other hand, ask yourself one simple question: At the beginning of the 2021 season, did you believe that there was a prayer of a chance on God's green earth that Tennessee would be seriously considered in a national championship conversation for 2022? I certainly didn't. Now project longer term the ramifications of Heupel's offensive wizardry and the recruiting dividends it will pay off. Then you have serious reason to challenge Alabama or Georgia's chances of ongoing dominance in the SEC and/or national championships.
 
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#112
Does anyone think UT really played their best that day? I don’t. They are still probably the better team and yes they did whip us but I dont think they are on an unbeatable level.
 
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#115
volfan_28 said:
What people seem to be forgetting is that the SEC established it's dominance over the PAC-12 early in the season with UGA crushing Oregon, Florida beating Utah, and MSU blowing out Arizona.

The committee can't look at that and legitimately think it's correct to rank a 1-loss PAC 12 team over a 1-loss SEC team. Conference Championships are NOT an automatic qualifier. Not sure why so many people seem to think they are. It's just one of several things taken into consideration.

If the committee had any intention of putting the ACC Champion ahead of Tennessee it would have been reflected in the most recent rankings, but what we saw was the opposite of a good sign for the ACC. The committee has not one but TWO 2-loss teams ranked ahead of Clemson (10th).... and WE BEAT BOTH OF THEM. The ACC isn't getting in unless we lose a game.

TCU needs to lose in order for us to be ranked ahead of them, but they don't need to lose in order for us to make the playoffs. The only thing that can keep us out at this point is the committee shocking the world by leaving the loser Michigan/OSU ranked ahead of us and I see no way they can do that and maintain any level of respect. The loser of that game will have ZERO quality wins on their resume (unless you count Penn State as a quality win) and we have victories over two current top 10 teams.

A lawsuit is warranted if we win out and don't get in.
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I agree with you but there's a lot of noise out there that Conf Champs with 1 loss should mean more and get a playoff nod over any non-Conf Champs with 1 loss.
 
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Volosaurus rex said:
You make legitimate points. I don't believe that there are many Tennessee fans who would objectively argue that, at this point in time, we are evenly matched with Georgia or Alabama in terms of overall talent or depth. However, in a Tennessee-Georgia rematch on a neutral field, I believe that the outcome would be significantly more competitive, regardless of who wins.

On the other hand, ask yourself one simple question: At the beginning of the 2021 season, did you believe that there was a prayer of a chance on God's green earth that Tennessee would be seriously considered in a national championship conversation for 2022? I certainly didn't. Now project longer term the ramifications of Heupel's offensive wizardry and the recruiting dividends it will pay off. Then you have serious reason to challenge Alabama or Georgia's chances of ongoing dominance in the SEC and/or national championships.
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As for a potential rematch, I'd fully expect the Dawgs to limit the Vols offense - maybe not to the tune of 13 - but I think they can keep it under 30. Limited enough to allow Georgia a double-digit win. Not a blowout but a comfortable win. I understand the points people make about missed opportunities and adjustments but that works for both teams. To your point about Tennessee's 2021 season, no one, and i'm including Tennessee fans, saw this coming. So far, it has taken a team of UGA's talent (year after year of Top 5 classes) to find a way to slow it down. If I were a Vol fan, following this season my biggest concern would be the enormous financial opportunities certain to be coming Heupnel's way this off-season.
 
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#119
CR-vol said:
I agree with you but there's a lot of noise out there that Conf Champs with 1 loss should mean more and get a playoff nod over any non-Conf Champs with 1 loss.
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And generally speaking I agree with that. Conference championships are important and they should matter, but I think situations like this are why there are no automatic qualifiers. It gives the committee room to exercise judgement, because just like championships matter, it should also matter that one conference is head and shoulders better than everyone else.

The way I see it is a 1-loss PAC 12 Champ should get in over a 1-loss ACC or Big 12 team who isn't a conference champion, but the SEC has earned the right to be treated with more respect than that. We've produced 3 consecutive national championships with 3 different teams. If other conferences don't like that the entire country perceives Tennessee as being better than USC, TCU, and Clemson then they should match us up with a Big 10, Big 12, or PAC 12 team capable of changing the narrative. Until then we should be treated with the respect that we've earned by beating two current top 10 teams. No other team in the conversation can even say they've beaten one.
 
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#120
Volholic said:
Does anyone think UT really played their best that day? I don’t. They are still probably the better team and yes they did whip us but I dont think they are on an unbeatable level.
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UGAs best is better than UTs best imo.

With that said, we're absolutely good enough to beat them.

No we didn't play our best, but UGA had a lot to with that.
 
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VolForLife83 said:
Everyone forgetting a possible 1 loss pac12 team. Still need TCU and USC to lose. Heck, even a 1 loss ACC Champion/ Clemson could still jump as later.
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absolutely would get in over Clemson or USC. Tennessee is a better team. Exclamation Point!
 
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#123
619Knoxvillian said:
The loser of OSU and Michigan will drop to 5 and that is our ticket no matter who else wins out... We will play Georgia on a turf field where I think our receivers will find much better footing and Dylan Sampson is coming along at the right time... It's almost like we threw that game to avoid a potential late loss in Atlanta... A loss that late in the Season and there is no chance we make it.... Since we were number 1...
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I respectfully disagree- I think the loser of the Mich/OSU game will back into the playoffs this year. It's all about politics. This year, the SEC appears down with only 1 undefeated team. Right now, the B10 has 2 undefeated teams. I hope you're right but I think the loser, provided its a close game, will slide into the 4th slot. Michigan is playing a ranked IL. team this weekend and a ranked OSU team
 
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keepitreal2022 said:
I respectfully disagree- I think the loser of the Mich/OSU game will back into the playoffs this year. It's all about politics. This year, the SEC appears down with only 1 undefeated team. Right now, the B10 has 2 undefeated teams. I hope you're right but I think the loser, provided its a close game, will slide into the 4th slot. Michigan is playing a ranked IL. team this weekend and a ranked OSU team
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1. How often does the SEC have more than one unbeaten team this late in the season?
2. Does the Big Ten having more than one unbeaten team suggest anything about the quality of the league?
3. Illinois lost to Purdue on Saturday so their ranking just flew out the window. This means that prior to Ohio State, Michigan will have played a grand total of ONE ranked team, that being Penn State, whose only role in the Big Ten appears to be providing Michigan and Ohio State with quality wins.

Barring losses by other teams (Georgia, TCU, USC, Clemson) Michigan will be out if they lose to Ohio State. 11-1 Michigan definitely isn't getting in over 11-1 Tennessee.
 
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