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#104
ColinS said:
Barnes doesn't play 10. He will pick his 8 and occassionally go 9.
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I don't know. Not Barnes MO but I expect a minimum of 9-man rotation. Otherwise who among the following doesn't get minutes?
Aidoo/Awaka in post
Knecht/James/Mashack as forwards
Vescovi/Ziegler/Gainey/Dilione at guards

Situationally Estrella and Phillips may earn minutes against bigger opponents. Carr (who they like alot) and Jefferson (our most athletic player) are the 2 guys who may not get much time at all. Really speaks to the depth we have. There will be moments when we have shooters like Ziegler, Vescovi, Gainey and Knecht in the game at the same time....along with a post.
 
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Knecht seems to me like one of those players that Mark Few develops at Gonzaga or one of those basketball whizzes that used the pile in at Butler and we always wondered why can't we sign basketball players like that? Well, we've got one now and he is as good as advertised, hoping he stays healthy and productive once the SEC grind comes around
 
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cardvolfan said:
I’m not trying to criticize here, but you do understand that the huge majority of highly successful teams don’t make it to their perceived spots, right? A Final Four for almost any very good team is almost impossible to duplicate because the tournament itself is such a crapshoot of good (or bad) luck, injuries, officiating, seeding….and multiple other factors. Pick out 20 teams of your choice over the last 10 years and figure out who didn’t make more than one FF and you will have most teams. Each year, even for very good teams, almost all don’t make it that far.

If not for an Alexander injury, a terrible call going against Turner, and a Zeigler injury last year, the narrative might be totally different. These were all non-controllable coaching issues, which have unfortunately happened often to Tennessee.
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I guess our conversation comes down to your belief that the tournament is a crapshoot as you put it and my belief that the better teams usually win. Just because there are upsets and Cinderella stories doesn’t mean that the higher rated teams win over 70% of the time and your champion is almost always a team that spent a large part of the season ranked in the top ten. I visit a couple of other team fans pages regularly and they all talk about the tournament what ifs related to injuries or a shot that didn’t go down. I think some coaches are better in the tournament than others. There are not many coaches out there I would trade for Barnes. . He has accomplished a lot at UT. But I’m not going to pretend like he hasn’t had more than his share of tournament disappointments compared to his regular season success at Clemson, Texas and UT.
 
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LeannaVol said:
I guess our conversation comes down to your belief that the tournament is a crapshoot as you put it and my belief that the better teams usually win. Just because there are upsets and Cinderella stories doesn’t mean that the higher rated teams win over 70% of the time and your champion is almost always a team that spent a large part of the season ranked in the top ten. I visit a couple of other team fans pages regularly and they all talk about the tournament what ifs related to injuries or a shot that didn’t go down. I think some coaches are better in the tournament than others. There are not many coaches out there I would trade for Barnes. . He has accomplished a lot at UT. But I’m not going to pretend like he hasn’t had more than his share of tournament disappointments compared to his regular season success at Clemson, Texas and UT.
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I see them as numerous opportunities…
 
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Namorto1 said:
I don't know. Not Barnes MO but I expect a minimum of 9-man rotation. Otherwise who among the following doesn't get minutes?
Aidoo/Awaka in post
Knecht/James/Mashack as forwards
Vescovi/Ziegler/Gainey/Dilione at guards

Situationally Estrella and Phillips may earn minutes against bigger opponents. Carr (who they like alot) and Jefferson (our most athletic player) are the 2 guys who may not get much time at all. Really speaks to the depth we have. There will be moments when we have shooters like Ziegler, Vescovi, Gainey and Knecht in the game at the same time....along with a post.
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We have this coversation every offseason about how much depth we have and that this is the year we are gonna spread the minutes. Two or three always don't end up as good as we thought and Barnes always narrows it down. He knows what every coach knows. You win with your best.
 
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LeannaVol said:
I am a fan of Barnes, but his lack of tournament success is hard to ignore. He has a large sample size of regular season success from Clemson, Texas and UT coupled with a large sample size of disappointing tourney runs. If it was one or two seasons you could chalk it up to a cold night or bad luck which happens to everyone. I hope this is the year he gets that monkey off his back. GBO.
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Clemson probably isn’t best to lump in. He went to the NCAAT 3 out of 4 years with a Sweet Sixteen. They have been to 6 tournaments and one Sweet Sixteen since he left 25 years ago.

In the first 9 years at Texas, he went to two Sweet Sixteens, two Elite Eights, and a Final Four. The last seven years at Texas were mediocre for him. But if you want to argue regular season success versus tournament, he only won 25+ games one time in the regular season his last seven years. Placed 4th, 6th, 2nd, 5th, 7th, 3rd, 6th in conference by year. So, I’m not sure what tournament expectations you have when you aren’t in the top 4 in your conference. JMO.
 
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ColinS said:
We have this coversation every offseason about how much depth we have and that this is the year we are gonna spread the minutes. Two or three always don't end up as good as we thought and Barnes always narrows it down. He knows what every coach knows. You win with your best.
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We played 10 guys double digit minutes last year fwiw, same thing year before that.
 
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walkenvol said:
Can’t be letting facts get in the way of their opinions!

NB4 the goalposts are moved to “well 10-12 minutes a game isn’t really playing”.
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I don’t think there’s any question (if they remain healthy) that 9 guys will be playing double digits, and I think Carr could be a wild card as a 10th man if his trajectory of development continues at the same pace.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
I don’t think there’s any question (if they remain healthy) that 9 guys will be playing double digits, and I think Carr could be a wild card as a 10th man if his trajectory of development continues at the same pace.
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I think Dilione will have wildly fluctuating minutes. He is a situation where at the end of the season he might end up with a double-digit average of minutes played. But the accumulation of those minutes was not a consistent flow of minutes each game. With the amount of veterans at guard that play the game the way Barnes wants it played, Dilione's inconsistencies with his defense and decision-making could result in a lot of 'quick hooks' once he enters the game.
 
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#117
therickbol said:
I think Dilione will have wildly fluctuating minutes. He is a situation where at the end of the season he might end up with a double-digit average of minutes played. But the accumulation of those minutes was not a consistent flow of minutes each game. With the amount of veterans at guard that play the game the way Barnes wants it played, Dilione's inconsistencies with his defense and decision-making could result in a lot of 'quick hooks' once he enters the game.
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I don’t disagree, and think it’s very possible that he’s at the back end of the 8, 9 or 10th average minutes per game. Again, barring injury.
 
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#118
I’ve been a bit out of the loop so what’s this guys game? Is he athletic and great at shooting? More of a shooter? Fill me in, I’m usually a huge basketball fan but I’ve been so busy with life recently
 
#119
#119
LeannaVol said:
I am a fan of Barnes, but his lack of tournament success is hard to ignore. He has a large sample size of regular season success from Clemson, Texas and UT coupled with a large sample size of disappointing tourney runs. If it was one or two seasons you could chalk it up to a cold night or bad luck which happens to everyone. I hope this is the year he gets that monkey off his back. GBO.
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He has never coached at a school that has ever been known for great basketball history. It’s probably why he wanted that UCLA job, tbh. It would’ve been his chance to finally be the main attraction on campus. At Clemson/Texas/Tennessee you will always play second fiddle to football.
 
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#121
Berry4Heisman14 said:
I’ve been a bit out of the loop so what’s this guys game? Is he athletic and great at shooting? More of a shooter? Fill me in, I’m usually a huge basketball fan but I’ve been so busy with life recently
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6’6” very athletic 3 level scorer…YouTube his highlights from the Michigan State exhibition, that should give you a good summary of his game.
 
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#122
cardvolfan said:
You hit the nail on the head regarding the running debate that “Barnes can’t get us very far in the tournament.” Shooters, even great shooters, have poor shooting nights. It happens and that’s something no one can control. Ask our friendly neighbors from Tuscaloosa about how they lost in the tournament.
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Or ask our neighbors to the north who exited last year (2nd round) after shooting 4/20 from 3 and exited the year before (1st round) after shooting 4/15
 
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#123
bleedingTNorange said:
We played 10 guys double digit minutes last year fwiw, same thing year before that.
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Finishing with 10 guys averaging 10 minutes doesn't mean you have a 10 man rotation. For one thing we had one of those guys injured in a high percentage of games. I guess it comes down to whether or not you count a guy getting a couple of minutes before a media timeout as being in the rotation. A closer study does show that he did use his bench a little more than I thought. Good info.
 
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#124
ColinS said:
Finishing with 10 guys averaging 10 minutes doesn't mean you have a 10 man rotation. For one thing we had one of those guys injured in a high percentage of games. I guess it comes down to whether or not you count a guy getting a couple of minutes before a media timeout as being in the rotation. A closer study does show that he did use his bench a little more than I thought. Good info.
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To me appearing in 90%+ of games and averaging double digit minutes would indicate you are a part of the rotation…JMO.
 
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