Laremy Tunsil admits he accepted money from Ole Miss coach

Too many big names involved with this situation now for it to just be brushed off. They've now discussed this situation directly with Roger Goodell, and Greg Sankey. Something will happen to Ole Miss before this is over.
 
If the NCAA doesnt act they should disband. A 1st round draft pick, on draft day, confesses, on video that he was paid by coaches to play. He later affirms he said it. I see no way a team of investigators were not summoned within hours to head down to Hotty Toddy-land. They're screwed
 
You know what doesn't benefit the athletes? Using their names and likenesses to sell jerseys, programs, calendars, and any other piece of swag you can name and not paying them for the privilege.

Guys like Nick Saban and Butch Jones can negotiate the use of their likeness, scheduled appearances, and promotional efforts, but the only negotiating the players get to do is whether or not they sign the form that says the school gets to do whatever they want and the players won't receive a dime.

Same old argument. To say that college athletes don't get compensated is not telling the truth.
 
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for telling the truth? The scam of the NCAA and big time college athletics needs to be exposed

Ncaa is garbage but that does not excuse screwing over the teammates you just left.

But yea, Oxford chapter president of mensa was using national tv to fix things.
 
There is no scandal here.

Those on scholarship are getting their education paid for. Education that will be needed for those that do not make it at the next level (and most will not). And for those that do play at the next level, education to understand how to handle any money they make and tools they can use once their playing days are over.

There is no way coming out of high school that an athlete "knows for sure" that they have what it takes compete at the college level, let alone in the NFL.

College gives them not only the chance for an education but also a chance to bolster their skills and showcase to everyone that they are capable of playing at the next level. It also gives them a chance to "grow up" as an adult and learn how to handle the pressure that comes with being a public figure with the help of college coaches that can guide them through the transition.

IMO, they are compensated quite well while in college without someone throwing extra dollars their way. Extra dollars is what their family is there to provide. I know my family provided for me.

Well said!
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Ncaa is garbage but that does not excuse screwing over the teammates you just left.

But yea, Oxford chapter president of mensa was using national tv to fix things.

I guess things like integrity and character do not mean much to you! Your posts (yes plural) sound like thug talk to me! Believe it or not there are still some people who want to do the right thing and have the courage and integrity to come forward, admit their mistakes, and tell the truth no matter who it impacts! That was the way my father raised me ...
 
I guess things like integrity and character do not mean much to you! Your posts (yes plural) sound like thug talk to me! Believe it or not there are still some people who want to do the right thing and have the courage and integrity to come forward, admit their mistakes, and tell the truth no matter who it impacts! That was the way my father raised me ...

Awesome. So you are saying he thought taking the money was wrong but 10 seconds after he secured a job in the NFL he had some moral awakening and decided he needed to come clean. That may be a top 10 all time dumb post.

Also, it is not wrong to accept money.
 
No! I am saying he made mistakes, like we all have, may have matured (don't know for sure as only he can answer that question for sure) but at least had the integrity to admit his mistakes regardless if it was NFL draft day or not. To me, for that he at least deserves some credit as to the right thing to do. You seem to value the "snitch" labeling mentality above character issues. Sorry I don't buy that line of thinking. To each their own as it boils down to what your values are I guess.
 
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If you actually watched the press conference, Tunsil only admitted that it was true after he was pressed repeatedly about it from the reporters in attendance. He literally found out about the leaked text messages from the reporters at the press conference, and sheepishly told the TRUTH about it when asked.

The scandal here isn't that Tunsil "ratted" anybody out, or even that Ole Miss staff were paying him extra cash to help out his family. The real scandal is that elite athletes like Tunsil, who risk their own long-term health and millions in future earnings every time they step on the field (see, e.g., Marcus Lattimore) to help the NCAA and their schools & football conferences make hundreds of millions of dollars in profits (see, e.g., Johnny Manziel), are being compensated pennies to the dollar for what they're truly worth.

So long as we keep up the sham of amateurism, this kind of "cheating" will continue. THAT's the real scandal here.

True.

But I will still enjoy watching the Ole Miss program get burned to the ground.
 
So, I'm assuming that you don't play football for a living. The suggestion that playing football requires a college education is asinine.



But they could have all of that and more if they were allowed to play for the NFL immediately out of high school. But that's not possible, because the NFL doesn't allow kids to enter the draft for three years post-graduation. So the colleges have a guaranteed pool of cheap talent, and the NFL gets to run a developmental system that they don't have to pay for.

Bruh. I wouldn't waste my time arguing this. When it comes to paying college athletes there is a bias by most Americans against seeing young black men getting paid their fair market worth.

It's why sports dominated by African-Americans (basketball and football) have salary cap rules at the professional level that supress fair market value and why there are rules against going directly from high school to the pros.

If you play baseball you can go directly from high school to the pros, and no one has a problem with it. In baseball you can also get paid your fair market value. There is no artificial salary cap to suppress your value.

13 and 14 year olds kids to pro in sports like Tennis or Golf and no one has a problem with it. But if a 18 year old black kid wants to go to the NBA it's a tragedy.
 
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Bruh. I wouldn't waste my time arguing this. When it comes to paying college athletes there is a bias by most Americans against seeing young black men getting paid their fair market worth.

It's why sports dominated by African-Americans (basketball and football) are the only ones with a salary cap at the professional level and why there are rules against young black men going directly from high school to the pros.

If you play baseball you can go directly from high school to the pros, and no one has a problem with it. In baseball you can also get paid your fair market value. There is no artificial salary cap to suppress your value.

13 and 14 year olds kids to pro in sports like Tennis or Golf and no one has a problem with it. But if a 18 year old black kid wants to go to the NBA it's a tragedy.

Haha HAha Haha HAha

[Breathing]

Haha Haha
 
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Bruh. I wouldn't waste my time arguing this. When it comes to paying college athletes there is a bias by most Americans against seeing young black men getting paid their fair market worth.

It's why sports dominated by African-Americans (basketball and football) have salary cap rules at the professional level that supress fair market value and why there are rules against going directly from high school to the pros.

If you play baseball you can go directly from high school to the pros, and no one has a problem with it. In baseball you can also get paid your fair market value. There is no artificial salary cap to suppress your value.

13 and 14 year olds kids to pro in sports like Tennis or Golf and no one has a problem with it. But if a 18 year old black kid wants to go to the NBA it's a tragedy.

Just so everyone knows: just because D4H is indicating that he agrees with me doesn't mean that I agree with him.
 
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Bruh. I wouldn't waste my time arguing this. When it comes to paying college athletes there is a bias by most Americans against seeing young black men getting paid their fair market worth.

It's why sports dominated by African-Americans (basketball and football) have salary cap rules at the professional level that supress fair market value and why there are rules against going directly from high school to the pros.

If you play baseball you can go directly from high school to the pros, and no one has a problem with it. In baseball you can also get paid your fair market value. There is no artificial salary cap to suppress your value.

13 and 14 year olds kids to pro in sports like Tennis or Golf and no one has a problem with it. But if a 18 year old black kid wants to go to the NBA it's a tragedy.

This has to be taken from an Op Ed peace by a Black Lives Matter member posted in the Moveon.org news letter!
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P.S. This was so funny I had to give it a like for pure entertainment value!!
 
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Ole Miss needs someone who can turn their wreck into a check. Oh, wait, I forgot they only deal in cash.
 
I don't see how anyone can think football players aren't exploited. They bring in way more then they cost. The $ goes to coaches, administrators, and other sports. It's actually a very immoral system.
 
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There is no scandal here.

Those on scholarship are getting their education paid for. Education that will be needed for those that do not make it at the next level (and most will not). And for those that do play at the next level, education to understand how to handle any money they make and tools they can use once their playing days are over.

There is no way coming out of high school that an athlete "knows for sure" that they have what it takes compete at the college level, let alone in the NFL.

College gives them not only the chance for an education but also a chance to bolster their skills and showcase to everyone that they are capable of playing at the next level. It also gives them a chance to "grow up" as an adult and learn how to handle the pressure that comes with being a public figure with the help of college coaches that can guide them through the transition.

IMO, they are compensated quite well while in college without someone throwing extra dollars their way. Extra dollars is what their family is there to provide. I know my family provided for me.

I agree. I think free school, food, clothing, housing - that all adds up. I have two sons in UT now attempting to graduate as engineering students. They will share a dump apartment in Fort Sanders next year for $800 per month. Pay for parking, pay for meal plan, and once they graduate, will have student loans they will be paying for for quite a few years.

The whole package of a football scholarship is worth a lot of money.

And, if you start paying players, it opens up a whole pandora's box. Schools with big money alumni will be able to buy the best talent. I know.. that might give Vandy a leg up... I digress. The rich will get richer, and it'll kill lower division football. Those schools won't be able to keep up. How do you keep it fair? Set a flat wage across the board? It'll never be enough. There are so many landmines in granting salaries to college football players (that's what you are doing) - it'll ruin it.

You may disagree - but if you think these guys are playing for free - you are wrong. Those who don't make it to the NFL should walk away from school with some pretty good tools in their toolbox, paid for by scholarship.
 
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Bruh. I wouldn't waste my time arguing this. When it comes to paying college athletes there is a bias by most Americans against seeing young black men getting paid their fair market worth.

It's why sports dominated by African-Americans (basketball and football) have salary cap rules at the professional level that supress fair market value and why there are rules against going directly from high school to the pros.

If you play baseball you can go directly from high school to the pros, and no one has a problem with it. In baseball you can also get paid your fair market value. There is no artificial salary cap to suppress your value.

13 and 14 year olds kids to pro in sports like Tennis or Golf and no one has a problem with it. But if a 18 year old black kid wants to go to the NBA it's a tragedy.

Since it is all about the money in your mind I think the players should pay the schools for the publicity, facilities, and training they use to promote their livelihood. I had to pay for those during my education years. To think otherwise would be considering athletes to be "privileged."
 
Since it is all about the money in your mind I think the players should pay the schools for the publicity, facilities, and training they use to promote their livelihood. I had to pay for those during my education years. To think otherwise would be considering athletes to be "privileged."

He totally left out the Williams sisters

Tiger Woods

And countless other black athletes that haven't been shackled and chained by the white man's privilege's
 
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